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Project Prometheus (Original Setting Superhero Quest)

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TBF even with what we have now there are still rad combos we can give for candidates we get in the future

QM noted Umibozou+Crimson Soprano would be a rad Hit Power.

My theory is because it gives us a FFM with Construct creation. So fundamental force Constructs would be created which is gonna be cool.
 
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Wing101r said:
Dont know what works with Zeno though guy needs more offense though I suppose someone like Millions wouldnt cause any problems if added to him.
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Zeno is probably going to be saved up for another 10 tolerance candidate anyway so might as well go whole hog:

Eigen
Zeno + Hydrocity + Crimson Soprano + Multiplex (Potency 13)
Components: Space-Time Manipulation, Invulnerability, Flight, Solar Absorption, Energy Manipulation, Elemental Manipulation, Transformation
After known synergies are applied: Space-Time Manipulation, Invulnerability, Flight, Fundamental Force Manipulation, Transformation

Basically it's a prayer that we can combine 2 big synergy powers into an even more obscenely broken synergy. And even if that doesn't work, FFM will still be a great offensive complement to Zeno's bag of tricks. It would probably be gravity again though given its intimate relationship with spacetime.

Why transformation and not some other 1 potency energy power like Millions Minefield? First is to fish for more weird synergies, and second is a nod to the theming. Eigen is a mathy word usually related to something that can keep transforming but have some essential part of itself remain the same. Many of Zeno's paradoxes have something take an infinite number of steps but not get anywhere, which is somewhat similar. Maybe we'll get a hero who can revert their body to any past state through selective control of spacetime, or something else weird and philosophical.
 
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Zeno has defense in spades. What he lacks is offensive capabilities, and potentially stamina since the only way I can imagine someone killing him is if he can't keep the paradox up forever.
 
ScorpioSting said:
My idea for Zeno to combine with Clairvoyance for a precognitive is still what I want to do with that sample.
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Probably something to ask wulong about see if Space-Time has any synergies with clairvoyance. Or I suppose a Synergy with Clairvoyance being used with Zeno for 2 Synergy Powers.

Id need to a synergy we can build with just 4P though.

LucidProp said:
Zeno has defense in spades. What he lacks is offensive capabilities, and potentially stamina since the only way I can imagine someone killing him is if he can't keep the paradox up forever.
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Funny enough I think Crimson Soprano+Hydrocity+Million Mines would make for a budger 4P FFM to combine with zeno for a powerful attack.

Combining with Zeno should bosst the FFM too even if were using Weak powers to create it. since maxes out to 13 Potency. Like How Mona Regeneration is way better than Soldier Xs.
 
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I think something to keep in mind for all of these, going forward, is that the perfect is the enemy of the good.

It's easy to get caught up on Synergies and Big Ideas and Maximum Potency, it's easy to forget that most of the people we're going to be making for are going to have tolerances of 6 and under.

We're occasionally going to have to make a hero who's just 'good' and not Black Swan 2: Electric Boogaloo.
 
ScorpioSting said:
I think something to keep in mind for all of these, going forward, is that the perfect is the enemy of the good.

It's easy to get caught up on Synergies and Big Ideas and Maximum Potency, it's easy to forget that most of the people we're going to be making for are going to have tolerances of 6 and under.

We're occasionally going to have to make a hero who's just 'good' and not Black Swan 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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Hey we can boost Tolerance so pick the one with Highest Tolerance and just keep pumping them drugs until they reach 10. Boom another God in action. The rest with Tolerance 6 and so can just get powers as it is.

Edit: Just need to make sure we have Plentiful supply of candiates to pumo to T10

Edit: That said with Wulong unless we need something specific Asap we can probably have him work on finding Synergies. SInce i ask QM and we can just have him work on figuring out a synergy. So unless its the one with 9 Keyword synergy. We can have him figure out a synergy every 2 or 3 turn and so.

Actually Couldnt we ask Wulong for 2 Keyword synergy if it exist? Id be weak but still good to know and we can use.

That way we can stick to Giving all our Ambrosia Heroes synergy powers as much as we can.
 
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ScorpioSting said:
We're occasionally going to have to make a hero who's just 'good' and not Black Swan 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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That's true, but you have to admit that some high potency samples like Zeno practically beg for it (okay, I guess you could potency reduce Zeno from 9 to 6 and put it by itself on a 6 tolerance candidate). Though regardless of total potency, getting the biggest bang for our buck still depends on finding good synergies, as with Handyman.
 
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Suleverf said:
That's true, but you have to admit that some high potency samples like Zeno practically beg for it (okay, I guess you could potency reduce Zeno from 9 to 6 and put it by itself on a 6 tolerance candidate). Though regardless of total potency, getting the biggest bang for our buck still depends on finding good synergies, as with Handyman.
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Also combining DNA to create new Powersets is what makes things fun for me.

Still if we want combos for Lower Tolerance heres a fun combo I made.

Plan Robots in Disguise

Adamant (3P) + Multiplex(1P) + Soldier X(1P) = 5 Potency

A very interesting combo in that it gives Multiplex power a way to gain mass for their transformation throguh adamant. SHould let whoever we give this too turn into car, plane and ala Transformers which would be cool.

We can add other powers too like Energy blast for weapon and Invulnerabitly so that tehyd be unkillable.

While this power seems too similar to Handyman. Rhys autobiokinesis is meant for biological shifting, not mechanical or objects, he can cheat it a bit, but turning into something like a romba doesn't seem to be in his card due to it increazing his density. So this build has its own niche. At the very least adding something like FLight and energy could let the guy shoot lasers with guns or fly by turning into planes.

Make ourself a Cybertronian, to bash people with tanks, plane and firetruckts ;v
 
Wing101r said:
Hey we can boost Tolerance so pick the one with Highest Tolerance and just keep pumping them drugs until they reach 10. Boom another God in action. The rest with Tolerance 6 and so can just get powers as it is.

Edit: Just need to make sure we have Plentiful supply of candiates to pumo to T10

Edit: That said with Wulong unless we need something specific Asap we can probably have him work on finding Synergies. SInce i ask QM and we can just have him work on figuring out a synergy. So unless its the one with 9 Keyword synergy. We can have him figure out a synergy every 2 or 3 turn and so.

Actually Couldnt we ask Wulong for 2 Keyword synergy if it exist? Id be weak but still good to know and we can use.

That way we can stick to Giving all our Ambrosia Heroes synergy powers as much as we can.
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This seems to be the exact view Scorpio's trying to push against rather than a rebuttal of him.

We only get one global action per turn which we have to decide to apply to one of finding recruits, creating more heroes or increasing tolerance, and the last is far and away the most expensive in terms of income. There's a huge difference between getting our fifth hero on issue 8 at the cost of 12,500 income and getting our fifth hero on issue three at the cost of 3,000 income. That's five whole issues where that hero can be both doing things that are useful for us to get us more income and resources and improving their own abilities in parallel with the rest of the team, and a lot of resources saved besides (5 turns accumulation after the merger, I think).

We're currently most limited by access to goldnine, but as soon as we get another dose we will have a choice to make, and I'm not confident that just maxing out tolerance is the way to go.
 
Saidoro said:
This seems to be the exact view Scorpio's trying to push against rather than a rebuttal of him.

We only get one global action per turn which we have to decide to apply to one of finding recruits, creating more heroes or increasing tolerance, and the last is far and away the most expensive in terms of income. There's a huge difference between getting our fifth hero on issue 8 at the cost of 12,500 income and getting our fifth hero on issue three at the cost of 3,000 income. That's five whole issues where that hero can be both doing things that are useful for us to get us more income and resources and improving their own abilities in parallel with the rest of the team, and a lot of resources saved besides (5 turns accumulation after the merger, I think).

We're currently most limited by access to goldnine, but as soon as we get another dose we will have a choice to make, and I'm not confident that just maxing out tolerance is the way to go.
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Yes, exactly my point. Perfectly said.
 
Saidoro said:
This seems to be the exact view Scorpio's trying to push against rather than a rebuttal of him.

We only get one global action per turn which we have to decide to apply to one of finding recruits, creating more heroes or increasing tolerance, and the last is far and away the most expensive in terms of income. There's a huge difference between getting our fifth hero on issue 8 at the cost of 12,500 income and getting our fifth hero on issue three at the cost of 3,000 income. That's five whole issues where that hero can be both doing things that are useful for us to get us more income and resources and improving their own abilities in parallel with the rest of the team, and a lot of resources saved besides (5 turns accumulation after the merger, I think).

We're currently most limited by access to goldnine, but as soon as we get another dose we will have a choice to make, and I'm not confident that just maxing out tolerance is the way to go.
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We get an Ambrosia dose by Completing Magical Girl Mission line and can buy more since we get a supplier. So by Turn 5 we can start buying goldnine though cost and time it takes for the supplier to give us one is still up in the air.

Finishing finding the Trackmaster also gets another 1.

As for why we want as many Max Tolerance as Possible black swan shows the difference between handyman and her despite technically only having 4 Potency difference between them.

Hell SM is a 13 and theres no question his one of the biggest Pillars of Powers and Dominon. Having more 13 means more counters to him and someone our enemies needs to scratch their head over in how to counter.
 
The answer is pretty obvious but I got to ask, has there ever been a successful attempt at reversing rebound? Qsanyin was the greatest doctor to ever live, Nora specialized in metahuman powers, Dr. Ibis is a algernon for DNA manipulation, not to mention Mendicant and Lethal Anodyne, and it's not far fetched that someone with fine enough control over telekenesis or something can rearrange the molecules in someone's brain to restore it if Scarlet Maturity's power really is incredibly fine tactile kinesis.

Yet algernon types still suffer from rebound regardless.

Is it because rebound doesn't actually have a physical component? Is it psychic in nature but no one, not even psychic-sensitive metas like Nora, have figured that out yet?
 
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Bitterman said:
It is. It's a feature of how Algernon-type powers work, not a bug. It's information that was lost when Valiant Silver didn't win the MC vote. You'll have to find that out another way.
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One of the ways we could've figured out how Rebound works, aside from Nora mc, might be from getting that info through another Algernon. By which I mean probably Stockpile, who we've already thrown to the wolves. :V

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Nora might also have leftover notes regarding Rebounds since iirc she takes notes over everything she cannot rely her memory on.
 
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Looks like I missed everything , welp it is what it is maybe next time.

Our team has done it , was pretty intense but finally we are home free.

Lady Leizi really out there not believing that she is a real hero when she continues to do ultra heroic shit while getting constantly injuried.

About her weapon I hope it will be like ZZZ Qingyi one.
 
Given that it said 'chance', I assume there's at least one entry on whatever table you've made for it that has "Nothing" on it so there's the potential that we don't get anything, though.
 
I had another theory for the "She" mentioned that could be boosting Wonderland prisoners.

What if it's Valkyrie with Stage Bullshit? We know she is one of the four voices and she was in Wonderland...
 
ScorpioSting said:
I had another theory for the "She" mentioned that could be boosting Wonderland prisoners.

What if it's Valkyrie with Stage Bullshit? We know she is one of the four voices and she was in Wonderland...
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Huh thats actually possible Palisade quote below implies a woman which gives the idea its Monarch. But its more likely to be Valkyrie since we know she has a strong connection to the stage.

Palisade is pale and hisses furiously to Wolong, "Le Petit Prince has new powers too. It has to be her—" she bites her tongue when she sees you listening.
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Unrelated to any discussion, I want to say this is a really impressive quest with really impressive writing, but the high intensity action gives me way too much anxiety to vote or comment on. 😰

I do still read and appreciate it, but at a safe distance and with a cooldown period to pet a cat afterward.🙂
 
Suleverf said:
See: Relativistic Baseball
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random_npc said:
She also seems to be a little loopy at the moment and might not really understand what a light speed impact would do. Here is what a baseball going at C would do.
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If you're in the group that hasn't had the time to be sucked down the XKCD What If rabbit hole, here is the video version of what these two users and soon Bitterman were/will be talking about:

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3EI08o-IGYk
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TL; DW: The baseball/Mona goes so fast that it smacks into the air particles and begins nuclear fusion. Bang.
 
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