Is he over 252 years old? That would lend an upsetting amount of evidence (ie: any evidence at all) for my "base 36 year numbering" theory.
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I was curious if I was misremembering so I just went and flipped through the first chapter of MHA again, social media, YouTube, and reddit aren't shown or mentioned.
In the same chapter Inko says she is 4th generation. Moreover when talking about generation in this way it doesn't have anything to do with the technical span of time a generation is, rather it's a reference do descent from first person in her family tree to have a Quirk.
I haven't been able to quickly find anything referencing AfO age other than the wiki which just says 100+
Though I suppose this tells me where the idea came from.
Edit: Removed a sentence that seemed dickish.
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When looked at from the outside, the timeline for MHA makes absolutely no sense. If the years stated through the anime and manga are accurate, it's incredibly far flung into the future.
The observed technology doesn't bear that out, however. Ochako Uraraka uses a flip-phone which may have been a reference to the older generation of Japan refusing to upgrade until a few years back but probably doesn't make sense if the setting was placed even fifteen years in the future.
In the prior thread, I stated that it looks like the author just wanted to be able to say 'In the far future... But not really!' which is incredibly common in any media. The setting has to be recognizable but at the same time there have to be explanations for the differences.
I don't know what else to tell you beyond the fact that observing the year in the setting is either going to be inaccurate or nonsensical as an artifact of the setting. Most authors attribute the stagnation of consumer technology on Quirks but that really doesn't make any sense either.
I could probably write an entire separate story just trying to untangle the mess that is the timeline but there are much, much better authors who do historical fiction on this very site.
What about the commenter from earlier that said it was tech supression?
Thinking about it, it's not a bad explanation in and of itself.
It just begs the question of 'Why did they lock in technology from 2015-2025?' when there was supposedly a much wider range of time before Quirks got involved.
Support Gear in-setting can do things like regulate Quirks that can violate gravity and modulate strength that could reduce boulders down to accelerated particles.
The disparity is simply jarring and painful to consider. MHA is very much a series in which looking too close and asking questions will destroy the magic.
If these issues didn't exist, however, it wouldn't be quite so ripe for fanfiction. After all, most authors are looking at the setting/characters/villains and saying 'No, this is how it should go instead!' or 'It doesn't make any sense, so I'm going to make it make sense!'
Reminds me of DC/Marvel, that despite the fact those settings are full to the brim with super geniuses, prodigious inventors and could fill landfills with all the alien tech and materials that floats about, the settings themselves never change. Its pretty common tbh where its just sort of ruled that no matter what, the setting has to resemble modern life.
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hey not everyone can be like (G)oda.
You somehow made me realize how "That Hideous Strength" can be imported into the Marvel universe. Nothing changes, they already run on the same rules and cosmology and everything.
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Maybe the HPSC made a conscious decision that 2015-2025 was the ideal time and forced their rebuilding culture to emulate that. Perhaps if you went to America, you'd find a different tech level. I think this could be glorifying a "golden age", like the Fallout universe does with 1950s. They're possibly only one generation away from full post-apocalyptic warlords, so some retro cosplaying during the rebuilding doesn't seem that unreasonable.
You're also missing the fact that there was an apocalypse because of the advent of quirks. They're less than fifty years into stable civilization and I'm not sure how well manufacturing of 2065 level tech survived the previous collapse. So apocalypse plus 1984 level of societal control from those in charge covers any number of sins.
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Another aspect to the wild tech disparity could also be straight attributed to how Quirks themselves are treated relative to innovation. What, exactly, are the laws concerning someone with Hyper Engineering as a Quirk? Or Savant Inventing, or Higher Mathematica, or whatever. When someone could just shit out tech and science literally faster than society itself can keep up with... does that society just let it run wild? Lock it down somehow? Plus with how the Hero System has gamed just about every facet of their society around itself, the vast majority of new innovation is going straight into 'support technology'. Both for aiding Heroes, and capturing Villains.
I would say a lot of the wild future tech came from Creative/intelligence quirks working through I-Island and other think tanks, both by the government and ones run by the newer Megacorps like The Yaoyorozu Group and Detnerat.
Of course, I'd also not have the great Quirk Apocalypse be 'Ancient History' after less than two generations, but every great Author has something fucked up in their works.
I would say a lot of the wild future tech came from Creative/intelligence quirks working through I-Island and other think tanks, both by the government and ones run by the newer Megacorps like The Yaoyorozu Group and Detnerat.
Of course, I'd also not have the great Quirk Apocalypse be 'Ancient History' after less than two generations, but every great Author has something fucked up in their works.
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Honesty if there was a backstory of the Quirk Wars involving Giant Robots and Super Tech it would make sense.
But the Author.... Didn't think ahead.
Like if All Might had a few lines like "There are things I am legally not allowed to tell you." then it would all fit better.
But no.
Don't think it too hard, Naruto for example doesn't make sense if you look at it too closely. Not everyone can do like the Author of One Piece and plan like 80% of the story years in advance.
That's why for my own MHA story I went AU and decided to focus on an Alternate History were Quirks started ridiculously weak in the first generation so it caught people off guard when Second Gen Quirks made some people Super Human. And a bunch of stuff that doesn't fit in this thread.
Way I see it, an in story explanation could be that not all Worlds are created Equal. MHA seems like adding a single difference to Earth and having an AI try to justify it.
And it has to justify it because plotholes are "Bugs in the System" that make Universes/Realms less stable.
The more stable a World is, the more real it becomes.
For example if in the main story Alchemist got send to a Videogame based on One Piece, it would be almost like the real One Piece World because depite being a "Lesser Copy" it is still based on a very stable Realm/World.
While MHA has so many holes the AI gave up and used the "It was Aliens" card.
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That's apparently what The Wall is for.
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Nah the Source Wall is there to prevent invasions from different Multiverses. However Marvel and DC are brothers so they alllow crossovers to happen once in a while to spice things up.
Not joking about the brothers thing, is canon for the Comics.
And even so DC still gets a lot of crossovers so the source wall should be called the swish cheese wall.
So honesty all Alec has to do is find a universe close enough that had a crossover with DC at least one time, like the Dungeons and Dragons multiverse. Then go from there to DC.
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I feel like you didn't actually address what I was saying, this started when I pointed out that there's evidence that MHA takes place in the late 21st to very early 22nd century. I asked where people get this idea that it's hundreds of years into the future despite this evidence.
It's the far future but technology hasn't really developed at all beyond in certain niches that may or may not be Quirk backed, doesn't really answer the question of why you or anyone think that it's the far future. In fact it seems more like the lack of technological development should point to it not being very far into the future.
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Anyway back to the story, about time someone tries to kill Alec, don't you think?
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And my joke Trumped your Sense Motive check.Access (Character) - Comic Vine
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Anime Adjacent: BNHA 23
Izuku breathed in.
Izuku breathed out.
Calm. He could force himself to be calm.
It was one of the many odd things he'd noticed about himself over the past few months. He was still excitable, still prone to dropping into a storm of mumbling when he tried to put together an idea or observation into a frame that made sense.
But at the same time, he felt like he was less prone to panicking. He felt like he didn't freeze up as badly.
He didn't know if it was because he felt more confident, felt more like he belonged... Or if he'd grown skittish as he'd gotten older, the fear of menacing 'Pop!'s in his ear paralyzing him in some broken instinct to try and avoid the gaze of a predator.
Whatever the reason, it didn't matter. Sometimes the underlying mechanics and reasons were lost, the samples destroyed in performing the experiment. Izuku had to look at the results and deal with those instead.
Months of training, months spent working on the spells Alec had agreed to teach him, all of it amounted to today. He'd studied, he'd practiced, he'd trained himself as much as his small, regressed body could safely handle. All of it for today.
Izuku breathed in.
Izuku breathed out.
And he stepped forward, through the gates of U.A.
There were a lot of people in halls. Most were taller than himself, though Izuku did spot one boy that was even shorter, he had round purple balls growing out of his scalp.
"Hey, kid!" Someone shouted nearby, drawing quite a few eyes to a boisterous teenager with spiky red hair. "You lost or somethin'?"
"No, no." Izuku laughed awkwardly at the teen that was addressing him. "I'm totally fifteen! Technically. Sort of."
And Izuku's words drew even more people. The weight of so many eyes on him, he shuffled nervously in place as he felt his anxiety grow. "I got hit by a weird Quirk so I'm sort of stuck looking younger than I really am."
"Man, that sucks. Still, it's totally manly that you still showed up!" The kid flashed him two thumbs up as the crowd got back to their own nervous habits. "How long will it take for the Quirk to wear off?"
"Six, seven years." Izuku answered, a fragile smile on his face. "My teacher told me it would be better to wait it out instead of trying to cancel it. Unknown, volatile Quirks, y'know?"
"Man, that really blows." A bell rang, interrupting many small conversations being had throughout the halls. "Gotta get moving! Hope I see you after the test!"
Izuku waved at the teen's retreating back as he re-opened a very well worn letter. The one from U.A. stating that he was allowed to take their placement tests, that the grades he'd struggled over, the efforts he'd made to recover from losing a month had all been worth it.
His test was being held in room 1-K.
He'd heard that U.A. was a massive labyrinth of twisting halls and nonsensical designs. Actually being inside the building, however, he found that all he had to do was count and follow the alphabet to find the room he needed.
He found himself in a gymnasium with nearly two-hundred seats. Roughly a quarter were occupied but the number was quickly rising. Izuku wasted no time in finding his own seat, a paper taped across the back with his name and Aldera student I.D. number on it.
To his right was a girl that had some minor but obvious amphibian physical mutations. On his left was a boy with a speech bubble in place of his head. There was a nervous tension in the air thick enough it could be cut with a spoon.
Izuku didn't bother looking to the person behind him. The guy in front wasn't particularly noteworthy beyond the blond hair so he likely had some kind of Emitter Quirk.
"Welcome, students!" A tall man shouted from the front of the room. The man had relatively small eyes set in a square face. He was extremely well muscled and had short, spiky white hair. That, Izuku recognized, was Sekijiro Kan, the Blood Hero! "I would first like to begin by congratulating you all on making it this far into U.A.'s highly selective application process. Regardless of the course you chose to apply for, know that your grades, essay and various other deciding factors have placed you in the top ten percent of applicants."
The man took a deep breath before continuing, a moment that Izuku took to observe the man. It was well noted on his fan-pages that Kan had larger than normal canines, likely an inherited attribute from his Quirks development throughout its family history.
The de-aged boy was more than a little surprised that he could see them clearly from his seat, halfway to the back of the room. The man's underbite was actually very distinct.
"However, our school has no room for slackers, layabouts or individuals who think they can skate through just because they've been accepted. Regardless of the course you've chosen, Business, Technical, Management, Heroics or General Studies, you will be pushed to become the very best that you can be!" The Blood Hero paused for a moment to catch his breath and scan the room. "You've earned a chance to show us you're good enough to be here..."
"Now prove it!"
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K: I've been talking with Lucifer. They can get us into that reality cluster but aiming is pretty difficult. They say that everything there is a tangled mess.
J: And I've been talking with Gaia. She hasn't been able to get control back but she's managed to enable this thing called 'Freecam' so we can see what's going on when he's outside of his demi-plane. The protections he put on that thing are still holding up, I guess.
K: ...What's he been doing? He hasn't found another mountain to hide on, has he?
J: No, no. He did find a girl, though.
K: What? Already!?
J: And she's absolutely adorable!
K: You're doing this on purpose...
J: I think she'd be calling him 'Papa' if she wasn't afraid of him leaving.
K: At least that explains why he hasn't shown back up already.
J: Well... I think it's one factor. The roads to get in or out are apparently really dangerous without a guide. Like Lucifer. And you know how he is about asking for help.
K: ...I loathe the fact that his stubbornness is both a boon and a curse.
J: It saved our lives, didn't it?
Izuku breathed out.
Calm. He could force himself to be calm.
It was one of the many odd things he'd noticed about himself over the past few months. He was still excitable, still prone to dropping into a storm of mumbling when he tried to put together an idea or observation into a frame that made sense.
But at the same time, he felt like he was less prone to panicking. He felt like he didn't freeze up as badly.
He didn't know if it was because he felt more confident, felt more like he belonged... Or if he'd grown skittish as he'd gotten older, the fear of menacing 'Pop!'s in his ear paralyzing him in some broken instinct to try and avoid the gaze of a predator.
Whatever the reason, it didn't matter. Sometimes the underlying mechanics and reasons were lost, the samples destroyed in performing the experiment. Izuku had to look at the results and deal with those instead.
Months of training, months spent working on the spells Alec had agreed to teach him, all of it amounted to today. He'd studied, he'd practiced, he'd trained himself as much as his small, regressed body could safely handle. All of it for today.
Izuku breathed in.
Izuku breathed out.
And he stepped forward, through the gates of U.A.
There were a lot of people in halls. Most were taller than himself, though Izuku did spot one boy that was even shorter, he had round purple balls growing out of his scalp.
"Hey, kid!" Someone shouted nearby, drawing quite a few eyes to a boisterous teenager with spiky red hair. "You lost or somethin'?"
"No, no." Izuku laughed awkwardly at the teen that was addressing him. "I'm totally fifteen! Technically. Sort of."
And Izuku's words drew even more people. The weight of so many eyes on him, he shuffled nervously in place as he felt his anxiety grow. "I got hit by a weird Quirk so I'm sort of stuck looking younger than I really am."
"Man, that sucks. Still, it's totally manly that you still showed up!" The kid flashed him two thumbs up as the crowd got back to their own nervous habits. "How long will it take for the Quirk to wear off?"
"Six, seven years." Izuku answered, a fragile smile on his face. "My teacher told me it would be better to wait it out instead of trying to cancel it. Unknown, volatile Quirks, y'know?"
"Man, that really blows." A bell rang, interrupting many small conversations being had throughout the halls. "Gotta get moving! Hope I see you after the test!"
Izuku waved at the teen's retreating back as he re-opened a very well worn letter. The one from U.A. stating that he was allowed to take their placement tests, that the grades he'd struggled over, the efforts he'd made to recover from losing a month had all been worth it.
His test was being held in room 1-K.
He'd heard that U.A. was a massive labyrinth of twisting halls and nonsensical designs. Actually being inside the building, however, he found that all he had to do was count and follow the alphabet to find the room he needed.
He found himself in a gymnasium with nearly two-hundred seats. Roughly a quarter were occupied but the number was quickly rising. Izuku wasted no time in finding his own seat, a paper taped across the back with his name and Aldera student I.D. number on it.
To his right was a girl that had some minor but obvious amphibian physical mutations. On his left was a boy with a speech bubble in place of his head. There was a nervous tension in the air thick enough it could be cut with a spoon.
Izuku didn't bother looking to the person behind him. The guy in front wasn't particularly noteworthy beyond the blond hair so he likely had some kind of Emitter Quirk.
"Welcome, students!" A tall man shouted from the front of the room. The man had relatively small eyes set in a square face. He was extremely well muscled and had short, spiky white hair. That, Izuku recognized, was Sekijiro Kan, the Blood Hero! "I would first like to begin by congratulating you all on making it this far into U.A.'s highly selective application process. Regardless of the course you chose to apply for, know that your grades, essay and various other deciding factors have placed you in the top ten percent of applicants."
The man took a deep breath before continuing, a moment that Izuku took to observe the man. It was well noted on his fan-pages that Kan had larger than normal canines, likely an inherited attribute from his Quirks development throughout its family history.
The de-aged boy was more than a little surprised that he could see them clearly from his seat, halfway to the back of the room. The man's underbite was actually very distinct.
"However, our school has no room for slackers, layabouts or individuals who think they can skate through just because they've been accepted. Regardless of the course you've chosen, Business, Technical, Management, Heroics or General Studies, you will be pushed to become the very best that you can be!" The Blood Hero paused for a moment to catch his breath and scan the room. "You've earned a chance to show us you're good enough to be here..."
"Now prove it!"
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K: I've been talking with Lucifer. They can get us into that reality cluster but aiming is pretty difficult. They say that everything there is a tangled mess.
J: And I've been talking with Gaia. She hasn't been able to get control back but she's managed to enable this thing called 'Freecam' so we can see what's going on when he's outside of his demi-plane. The protections he put on that thing are still holding up, I guess.
K: ...What's he been doing? He hasn't found another mountain to hide on, has he?
J: No, no. He did find a girl, though.
K: What? Already!?
J: And she's absolutely adorable!
K: You're doing this on purpose...
J: I think she'd be calling him 'Papa' if she wasn't afraid of him leaving.
K: At least that explains why he hasn't shown back up already.
J: Well... I think it's one factor. The roads to get in or out are apparently really dangerous without a guide. Like Lucifer. And you know how he is about asking for help.
K: ...I loathe the fact that his stubbornness is both a boon and a curse.
J: It saved our lives, didn't it?
Loving the snippets of what's going on back in DC you occasionally do. Can't wait to see the results of Izuku kicking ass in the tryouts
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Alchemist: "I've never seen anyone use Prestidigitation like that before."
Izuku: "I've had a lot of time to think about it."
Alchemist: "Kind of cruel, really."
Izuku: "Hey, at least I didn't hurt anyone! Physically, anyway."
Alchemist: "Turning a bunch of self-conscious teenagers' clothes transparent?"
Izuku: "Everyone was too busy trying to cover themselves (ineffectually, I might add) to bother trying to get the flag!"
Alchemist: "You are a cruel, cruel young man. You've learned well."
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While funny at first, the second thought I had was "The Grapist would absolutely love that..." And that killed all enjoyment for me.
If we were extremely generous with the timeline and set it reasonably far back, it would still set All For One as being born in the 1950's. The architecture around him during his flashback sequences to his beginnings simply don't match up with pre-WW2 Japan at all. He also states that he envisions himself as a demon lord like character similar to the comic books he used to read with his brother in their childhood.
So we have that. We have a rough timeline for the age of One For All, also. It's gone through eight people before it reached Izuku. One of them had it for eighteen years, we know that for a fact. All Might's age isn't actually on any wiki I can find but it's pretty commonly referenced that his age of peace started about forty years prior to the start of the anime.
So about sixty years between those two. We don't know how long the other wielders had One For All beyond the general fact that the Quirk wasn't killing them and they instead passed it on before those effect began to manifest. So anywhere from five to ten years per person which is, honestly, a painfully long time to be fighting a shadow war.
So, let's err on the side of caution. Let's say that the average holder of One For All had it for five years before moving it forward. That's still six other people for a total of thirty years. That puts us at around ninety years which can fit, roughly, with the officially stated age of All For One being 100+ years old.
So, even if MHA is taking place in this century, it's doing so about forty years forward. I can't speak for everyone but the differences in my room right now that I can point at as being wildly different from twenty years ago are pretty significant. If we haven't moved forward on cellphone or T.V. technology in forty years then something truly terrible has happened.
Hence the argument that trying to figure out the year in MHA doesn't make sense.
(I want my holographic television, damnit!)
Hagakure Toru: You made me human colored?!
Izuku: Well, I had to think of something! You were invisible before!
Hagakure Toru: Yes! And naked!
Izuku: As my teacher would say; That sounds like a you problem
You are very welcome!
Mineta: Oh god, I'm blind! Help! Someone! I can't see any of the beautiful ladies! In their invisible outfits!
Aizawa: Problem child, what did you do?
Izuku: It's a fun application of color changing!
Nedzu: Oh? Do tell!
Izuku: I changed his irises from transparent to black.
Aizawa: Change it back before he hurts himself.
Izuku: It'll wear off on its own.
Aizawa: When?
Izuku: When he learns his lesson.
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The jealousy and embarrassment destroyed any enjoyment he might have had.
He's small in more ways than just his stature and his morals.