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Per Aspera (Space Agency Plan Quest)

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C_Z said:
If we wait a few years until people stop thinking about it, there might not be be nearly as many nuclear physicists left.
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Fair point. I still disagree with doing it right now. I'd like to get the orbital rocket finalized (maybe not launched) and then go. I'm not super big on leaving a project unfinished to go after a shiny unless necessary.
 
pbluekan said:
Fair point. I still disagree with doing it right now. I'd like to get the orbital rocket finalized (maybe not launched) and then go. I'm not super big on leaving a project unfinished to go after a shiny unless necessary.
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They don't compete with each other. Orbital rocket is engineering dice (and then ops when we try to build it, as well as presumably facilities for the launch apd), nuclear research is science dice. In fact, they synergize better than most of the other options - the remaining orbital work is tagged as [PHYS], and the nuclear science gives +4 to PHYS (the only competitor is Big Ear, which is too expensive in resources for us to take this year)

As an aside, I just checked and we can't do both R-1 and R-3 construction in the same term. @Strunkriidiisk, you might want to change that?

[X] Plan: A bit of nuclear power for dessert
-[X] (3 dice) Construct an R-1 Snow (15R per dice, 3/35, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
-[X] (3 dice) Construct a Hangar Complex and Runway (20R per die, 29/250, +2 Operations dice, allows constructing spaceplane prototypes, launching and landing air and spacecraft)
-[X] (1 die) Construct a Wind Tunnel (10R per die, 37/80, +3 to projects labeled AERO)
-[X] (1 die) Build a Scientific Complex (25R per die, 363/450, opens up new research possibilities, +1d5+5 bonus in the associated field, +1 Education for the region
--[X] Dnipro Aerospace Metallurgy Centre (MATSCI) [Korolev]
-[X] (3 dice) Conduct Design Studies (R-4 Dawn) (Phase II) [AERO, PHYS, FUEL] (15R per die, 257/300 (Phase II), 0/300 (Phase III))
-[X] (3 dice) Nuclear Power Studies [PHYS] (15R per die, 0/400) (-15PS on completion, +4 to PHYS) (Opens further nuclear research)
-[X] Engineering Job Fair - (0/150, 5R per dice, -5R per turn on completion. Gain +1 Engineering dice)
-[X] (2 dice) There is Power in a Union (0/150, 5R per dice, -5R per turn and -5 PS on completion. Gain +1 Facilities dice, +5 to Facilities rolls)
 
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C_Z said:
The choice of the smaller rockets is because putting those dice on a R-3 puts us over-budget, and there's not a lot of stuff we can do thta's cheap enough. We could do weather studies instead of another science task, which'd put us at 245 as well, but the reward for that is a measly +5 PS at once, and we'll get more from the rocket reel bonus of doing a lot of R-1 launches.
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We could just let the build team enjoy their vacation, and not use the dice to save budget for next turn.
 
[X] Plan: Extended vacation
-[X] Construct an R-3 Snow - The Heavy Sounding Rocket, now known as the Snow, is ready for construction. You don't have anywhere to launch it from yet, but hopefully by the time the rocket is finished you will… (25R per dice, 0/80, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete) 2 dice 50R
-[X] (0 dice) Take an R-1 Beden from storage
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data)*3
-[X] (3 dice) Construct a Hangar Complex and Runway (20R per die, 29/250, +2 Operations dice, allows constructing spaceplane prototypes, launching and landing air and spacecraft)
-[X] (2 die) Build a Scientific Complex (25R per die, 363/450, opens up new research possibilities, +1d5+5 bonus in the associated field, +1 Education for the region
--[X] Dnipro Aerospace Metallurgy Centre (MATSCI) [Korolev]
-[X] (3 dice) Conduct Design Studies (R-4 Dawn) (Phase II) [AERO, PHYS, FUEL] (15R per die, 257/300 (Phase II), 0/300 (Phase III))
-[X] (3 dice) Nuclear Power Studies [PHYS] (15R per die, 0/400) (-15PS on completion, +4 to PHYS) (Opens further nuclear research)
-[X] (3 dice) There is Power in a Union (0/150, 5R per dice, -5R per turn and -5 PS on completion. Gain +1 Facilities dice, +5 to Facilities rolls)

Total cost : 265
1 die in Ops is left idle to save on costs, but everything else should work
 
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The thing with nuclear is that I think it's going to a long term effort, so we need to lay the ground work.

Test reactors have to be run for longer periods to find those longer term issues.
 
We do have an 'Isotope Separation and Nuclear Science Facility' already. But it doesn't come fully unlocked until two more turns from now.
 
C_Z said:
They don't compete with each other. Orbital rocket is engineering dice (and then ops when we try to build it, as well as presumably facilities for the launch apd), nuclear research is science dice. In fact, they synergize better than most of the other options - the remaining orbital work is tagged as [PHYS], and the nuclear science gives +4 to PHYS (the only competitor is Big Ear, which is too expensive in resources for us to take this year)

As an aside, I just checked and we can't do both R-1 and R-3 construction in the same term. @Strunkriidiisk, you might want to change that?

[X] Plan: A bit of nuclear power for dessert
-[X] (3 dice) Construct an R-1 Snow (15R per dice, 3/35, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you) (Unlocks Weather Observation Campaigns)
-[X] (3 dice) Construct a Hangar Complex and Runway (20R per die, 29/250, +2 Operations dice, allows constructing spaceplane prototypes, launching and landing air and spacecraft)
-[X] (1 die) Construct a Wind Tunnel (10R per die, 37/80, +3 to projects labeled AERO)
-[X] (1 die) Build a Scientific Complex (25R per die, 363/450, opens up new research possibilities, +1d5+5 bonus in the associated field, +1 Education for the region
--[X] Dnipro Aerospace Metallurgy Centre (MATSCI) [Korolev]
-[X] (3 dice) Conduct Design Studies (R-4 Dawn) (Phase II) [AERO, PHYS, FUEL] (15R per die, 257/300 (Phase II), 0/300 (Phase III))
-[X] (3 dice) Nuclear Power Studies [PHYS] (15R per die, 0/400) (-15PS on completion, +4 to PHYS) (Opens further nuclear research)
-[X] Engineering Job Fair - (0/150, 5R per dice, -5R per turn on completion. Gain +1 Engineering dice)
-[X] (2 dice) There is Power in a Union (0/150, 5R per dice, -5R per turn and -5 PS on completion. Gain +1 Facilities dice, +5 to Facilities rolls)
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Your first orbital rocket actually fits on your heavy sounding rocket pad. It weighs ~25-28 tons.
 
[X] Plan Rocketman v1.5

I should not that the other plan has us launching R-1 snows, which don't open weather observation, according to the turn. The plan writer got it wrong.
 
[X] Plan: Extended vacation And Chemistry
-[X] Construct an R-3 Snow - The Heavy Sounding Rocket, now known as the Snow, is ready for construction. You don't have anywhere to launch it from yet, but hopefully by the time the rocket is finished you will… (25R per dice, 0/80, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete) 2 dice 50R
-[X] (0 dice) Take an R-1 Beden from storage
--[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data)*3
-[X] (3 dice) Construct a Hangar Complex and Runway (20R per die, 29/250, +2 Operations dice, allows constructing spaceplane prototypes, launching and landing air and spacecraft)
-[X] (2 die) Build a Scientific Complex (25R per die, 363/450, opens up new research possibilities, +1d5+5 bonus in the associated field, +1 Education for the region
--[X] Dnipro Aerospace Metallurgy Centre (MATSCI) [Korolev]
-[X] (3 dice) Conduct Design Studies (R-4 Dawn) (Phase II) [AERO, PHYS, FUEL] (15R per die, 257/300 (Phase II), 0/300 (Phase III))
-[X] (2 dice) Nuclear Power Studies [PHYS] (15R per die, 0/400) (-15PS on completion, +4 to PHYS) (Opens further nuclear research)
-[X] (1 Die) Exploratory Propellant Research (Phase 1) [CHEM] (15R per dice, 0/150, unlocks fuel mixtures and further fuel development)
-[X] (3 dice) There is Power in a Union (0/150, 5R per dice, -5R per turn and -5 PS on completion. Gain +1 Facilities dice, +5 to Facilities rolls)

Let's take some time off from nuclear power to play with fluorine in *other* ways, maybe?
 
[X] Plan: Rocketman v1.5

I am loving the quest, though I'm also intrigued by the alternative launch systems.

Also materials science is to opening for a space elevator. I want a space elevator.
 
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