- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
[X] [SITE] Near Mogadishu, Somalia (equatorial)
[X] [GOVT] The Platform
[X] [GOVT] World Communalist Council
[X] Sun, Surf, & Space
[X] [GOVT] The Platform
[X] [GOVT] World Communalist Council
[X] Sun, Surf, & Space
Per Aspera (Space Agency Plan Quest)
- Thread starter Shadows
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- The great frozen north
Thanks for the info, though I probably won't join. I just REALLY hope this doesn't lead to much of the planning discussion being moved off-site like has happened with many other planquests.
[X] [SITE] Near Mogadishu, Somalia (equatorial)
[X] [GOVT] World Communalist Council
[X] Plan Plusses and Personnel (65/100R)
Say no to discord cabals! Say yes to transparency! All must be in thread!
froggo
Totally Not a Frog Inside a Human Shaped Mech
- Location
- Human City, Human State
Rest assured that I will continue to write Froggy Breakdowns for every new plan and I will try to include any discussion that happens in the server for the sake of transparency.
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IamtooSleepy
I came here to be an ant
[x] [SITE] Near Teba, Indonesia (equatorial)
I just think SEA could use a bit more representation
[X] [GOVT] World Communalist Council
Hopefully, can we start campaigning to remove the "world" part when there is enough people in space.
[X] Sun, Surf, & Space
I just think SEA could use a bit more representation
[X] [GOVT] World Communalist Council
Hopefully, can we start campaigning to remove the "world" part when there is enough people in space.
[X] Sun, Surf, & Space
[X] [SITE] Near Mogadishu, Somalia (equatorial)
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I really like this. It has a very Pacific Rim vibe.
froggo
Totally Not a Frog Inside a Human Shaped Mech
- Location
- Human City, Human State
It's also not too far off from how NASA names a lot of their stuff
- Location
- NY
My only quibble is that having named [Egyptian name] Alpha makes it sound like it's software. I much prefer just using roman numerals
ex: Sekhmet I, Anubis III
imo, it looks cleaner than alpha, beta, theta, etc.
- Location
- an unseen void
- Pronouns
- Any
I actually really like the Greek letter part - to me it makes the names feel less generic and more sciencey.
Can we at least write the letter instead of using it? That'd be great for those that don't read Greek.
Shadows
Sacred Priestess of the Benevolent Dice Gods
- Location
- USS Civilian, DDG-214
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Clearly you don't look at enough math papers
froggo
Totally Not a Frog Inside a Human Shaped Mech
- Location
- Human City, Human State
"Sekhmet Ω" looks a bit nicer than "Sekhmet Omega", but at the end of the day I suppose the naming convention is still intact either way you write it. I'd personally prefer the symbols but I'm just one of the many voices in this thread.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Yeah, people can just use whichever they want. The meaning is preserved either way.
Dragontrapper
Homeless Draconis
- Location
- A Tower in the middle of nowhere
Anyone have ideas yet for a general roadmap? ie NASA went 'orbit-moon-space station-spaceplane', Soviets went 'orbit-station-station', etc. I was thinking we could focus on stations in LEO at first - if we do that early enough it will be before microcomputers make weather and observation satellites practical, thus manned stations could fill the role. After that, it would be easy enough to mobe toward a Lunar shot using derived tech.
- Location
- NY
I may kick up an omake that of someone trying to create a roadmap of some sort. I think it'll be a sort of internal memo/proposal from someone in the Director's Office.
I was thinking of orbit-small LEO station-moon-big LEO station with regular lunar expeditions-Lunar station/base
EDIT: Proably side programs to visit the other planets in the Solar system as well, but the character in my omake is going to be a big advocate of boots on the ground science rather than robotic missions(although such things maybe more sci-fi at this point)
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A Letter to the Director on FOOF
froggo
Totally Not a Frog Inside a Human Shaped Mech
- Location
- Human City, Human State
Please forgive formatting or immersion break, this is my first Omake ever and I'm still learning how to forum. If you find any grammatical errors it's because I'm neglecting a grammar and editing assignment to chase the unicorn that is motivation mixed with inspiration. Please enjoy!
Director Carter,
I do hope you will forgive a direct letter such as this as opposed to a legitimate proposal. There was hardly time to dedicate to the composure of this letter let alone a properly formatted and structured proposal. With formalities out of the way, I would like to cut directly to the chase as to save your time as well. I wish to pursue the research and usage of dioxygen difluoride as a potential propellant for our sounding rockets.
I am distinctly aware of the reputation that O2F2 and most of fluoride chemistry has, and I am doubly aware of the amount of safety precautions that would have to be put in place in order to properly conduct such research and utilization but I believe that the benefits such research would yield far outweigh the initial effort that would need to be put into such a project.
The reasoning behind such a proposal is as follows: if a rocket is propelled by a controlled explosion, then a substance that produces explosions on the scale the O2F2 does should be perfect for reaching the cosmos. Should we be successful in an endeavor to harness the immense power of the compound we will surely find our venture into the stars unhindered by the matter of fuel. Production of the compound is relatively simple, all things considered, and ignition would require nothing more than allowing it to reach any temperature above -160C. I strongly believe this has the ability to work, if given the chance.
I eagerly await a response on this matter. Even if it is one of hesitation or uncertainty, I strongly believe in my ability to dispel any fears you may end up having on the matter. While I am not a material scientist, I feel that the power of O2F2 can be contained. We have the finest minds in the world here. Surely something could be developed!
Best regards,
Dr. Leaguers, Propellant Research
Director Carter,
I do hope you will forgive a direct letter such as this as opposed to a legitimate proposal. There was hardly time to dedicate to the composure of this letter let alone a properly formatted and structured proposal. With formalities out of the way, I would like to cut directly to the chase as to save your time as well. I wish to pursue the research and usage of dioxygen difluoride as a potential propellant for our sounding rockets.
I am distinctly aware of the reputation that O2F2 and most of fluoride chemistry has, and I am doubly aware of the amount of safety precautions that would have to be put in place in order to properly conduct such research and utilization but I believe that the benefits such research would yield far outweigh the initial effort that would need to be put into such a project.
The reasoning behind such a proposal is as follows: if a rocket is propelled by a controlled explosion, then a substance that produces explosions on the scale the O2F2 does should be perfect for reaching the cosmos. Should we be successful in an endeavor to harness the immense power of the compound we will surely find our venture into the stars unhindered by the matter of fuel. Production of the compound is relatively simple, all things considered, and ignition would require nothing more than allowing it to reach any temperature above -160C. I strongly believe this has the ability to work, if given the chance.
I eagerly await a response on this matter. Even if it is one of hesitation or uncertainty, I strongly believe in my ability to dispel any fears you may end up having on the matter. While I am not a material scientist, I feel that the power of O2F2 can be contained. We have the finest minds in the world here. Surely something could be developed!
Best regards,
Dr. Leaguers, Propellant Research
Vote Closed
Chlof
Her Ladyship
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Those are some pretty good rolls.
I think we had two dice on this?
A Potential Roadmap for the IEC, by Dessard
- Pronouns
- He/They
Excerpt from pages 9, 10, and 23 of "The Cosmos in 25 Years", a (un-asked-for) program circulated by a clique of IEC engineers:
described are, again, associated with deadlines only in relation to each other. They are broad orders of operation, to be prioritized based on the judgement of the various teams as to the difficulty of their tasks. But the pace of advancement of the railroad, the car, and the airplane show us that their completion within the decade is the possible and necessary advance of the new way of transport.
SECTION IV. BEYOND THE HORIZON
The remaining two phases are more speculative: while the tasks no less are necessary, the details are not easy to pin down. Technical possibilities enter the picture which we have not even begun to explore, and it may well be that medical difficulties slow the entire program for a time. Thus, dates and technical solutions are even more fluid. This section, like the last, will first lay out the basic structure of the phases and then the needs demanding these programs.
Phase 9: Five years
- Development of R-30: Rocket of 150-250 tons clustering highly refined M-10 series engines to put multiple tons into a long-termorbit.
- Development of P-30: A space-ship capable of reaching orbit with the aid of the R-30 and gliding home safely.
- Mastery of the control, orientation and recovery of artificial satellites using existing boosters
- Launch to and recovery from orbit of test pilots, using the P-30 aircraft.
- Experimentation with highly efficient rockets using high-energy chemicals or turbine-electric propulsion.
Phase 10: Ten years or more
- Practical implementation of booster engines using new fuels to reach hundreds of tons of thrust, and electric upper stages for optimal efficiency.
- Mass deployment of new, large rockets using these technologies
- Extensive use of measurement stations to fully understand the atmosphere and the near-Earth environment
- Development of large space-ships capable of carrying both pilots and technicians, for scientific and construction work in space, for sustained periods
- The construction of a space-harbour, a permanent working base in orbit
- Its use in constructing superorbitals: space-ships not designed to launch from earth but adapted to the space environment, able to carry the first explorers to other worlds.
| PHASE | THEME I: Ballistic Rockets for Access to Space | THEME II: Airplanes for Access to Space | THEME III: Earth Science using Instruments in Space | THEME IV: Exploration of Space |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Advancement of rocket engine technology | Continuing launch of small measurement stations to measure basic parameters | ||
| 2 | Development of M-10: engine of 20-30 tons thrust for large space rocket | Ground tests of animals and people under conditions of acceleration, vibration, etc... | ||
| 3 | Development of R-10: rocket of 10-20 tons capable of launching significant scientific stations into space | Launch of current sounding rockets from more locations, to gain global knowledge on upper atmosphere | ||
| 4 | Continuing improvement and expansion of M-10 series. Consider updating it to use superior fuels. Update R-10 as needed | Development of P-10: rocket-plane capable of reaching supersonic speeds and high altitudes | Use of R-10 series to launch imaging, magnetic and other large measurement stations into space | Use of R-10 series to launch primitive life-forms such as plants and insects into space and return them |
| 5 | Establish capability to reach super-long ranges and altitudes using experimental multi-stage rockets | Use of R-10 series to launch large animals into space and return them, if primitive ones can be done safely. Use of P-10 series to push the limits of aviation and aviation medicine. | ||
| 6 | Development of N-10: Upper stage engine mature enough to be relied upon | Development of P-20: advanced rocket-place capable of reaching super-high speeds and the edge of space | Use of multi-stage R-10 rockets to launch measurement stations deeper into space than before | Use of multi-stage R-10 rockets to experiment with super-high-speed atmospheric entry; development of systems for survival of pilots in low-pressure environments. |
| 7 | Development of R-20: rocket of 40-70 tons capable of placing small stations in orbit | Continuing development of super-high-speed aerodynamics and materials | Use of P-20 series to test pilots' ability to perform at high altitudes and in freefall | |
| 8 | Continued development of R-20 series to raise their lifting power. | Use of R-20 series to place measurement stations in orbit for prolonged readings | Tests of tracking and communicating with artificial satellites |
described are, again, associated with deadlines only in relation to each other. They are broad orders of operation, to be prioritized based on the judgement of the various teams as to the difficulty of their tasks. But the pace of advancement of the railroad, the car, and the airplane show us that their completion within the decade is the possible and necessary advance of the new way of transport.
SECTION IV. BEYOND THE HORIZON
The remaining two phases are more speculative: while the tasks no less are necessary, the details are not easy to pin down. Technical possibilities enter the picture which we have not even begun to explore, and it may well be that medical difficulties slow the entire program for a time. Thus, dates and technical solutions are even more fluid. This section, like the last, will first lay out the basic structure of the phases and then the needs demanding these programs.
Phase 9: Five years
- Development of R-30: Rocket of 150-250 tons clustering highly refined M-10 series engines to put multiple tons into a long-termorbit.
- Development of P-30: A space-ship capable of reaching orbit with the aid of the R-30 and gliding home safely.
- Mastery of the control, orientation and recovery of artificial satellites using existing boosters
- Launch to and recovery from orbit of test pilots, using the P-30 aircraft.
- Experimentation with highly efficient rockets using high-energy chemicals or turbine-electric propulsion.
Phase 10: Ten years or more
- Practical implementation of booster engines using new fuels to reach hundreds of tons of thrust, and electric upper stages for optimal efficiency.
- Mass deployment of new, large rockets using these technologies
- Extensive use of measurement stations to fully understand the atmosphere and the near-Earth environment
- Development of large space-ships capable of carrying both pilots and technicians, for scientific and construction work in space, for sustained periods
- The construction of a space-harbour, a permanent working base in orbit
- Its use in constructing superorbitals: space-ships not designed to launch from earth but adapted to the space environment, able to carry the first explorers to other worlds.
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Shadows
Sacred Priestess of the Benevolent Dice Gods
- Location
- USS Civilian, DDG-214
- Pronouns
- She/Her
You're right. Rolled it. Brings you up to 93/100 + 10 from bonuses so it passes.