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My Life as a Teenage Juggernaut... (Worm AU x Marvel)

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I wonder what's going to happen if the PRT or Cauldron get thinker verification that Taylor beating the hell out of Eidolon would, in fact, end the Endbringer threat? I also wonder how Taylor beating him up would effect that end, how would it cause his agent to revoke the commands?
 
Nice wordz. Have to wonder if Lung will want to try his luck against Juggy at some point, a matter of pride and measuring his own power against someone who can actually take it. Though Covert Action Calvert might be running interference on that until both can be safely gotten out of the city.
Will Uber & Leet dress up like Capcom characters to try something with Juggernaut anyway? (The failed-their-wisdom-save option.)
Will Shadow Stalker try to kill Taylor's dad as her powers clearly don't work on Taylor anymore?
Will Taylor ever do the "Puny God" trick on someone suitably durable to survive it? I can think of a few names.
 
forklifter16 said:
I wonder what's going to happen if the PRT or Cauldron get thinker verification that Taylor beating the hell out of Eidolon would, in fact, end the Endbringer threat? I also wonder how Taylor beating him up would effect that end, how would it cause his agent to revoke the commands?
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Given that the Cauldron segments involved David being ordered to increase what sounds an awful lot like therapy... I think RCB and Contessa are hoping that will be the option that doesn't require percussive maintenance, with Taylor being kept in reserve. And the implication was that percussive maintenance performed by Taylor would, er... let the High Priest shard go dormant entirely, since it would no longer have a host giving it commands, if you follow my meaning. (I mean, maybe it would just knock some sense into him, but that does seem less likely.)
 
jmcdavid said:
As someone who steers clear of canon Worm and Ward, I request context.
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As I understand it, things happened about like this:

Sophia encountered Taylor at the mall while Sophia was in costume and Taylor was in civilian attire. At the time, Taylor wasn't doing anything wrong. She was at the mall *gasp* shopping. And Sophia had zero indications that Taylor and Skitter were the same person. Sophia I believe started harassing Taylor, and tried arresting her on trumped up charges on the grounds of "They'll believe me rather then you, I'm a Hero."

Note that I haven't personally read the chapter in question. I only know of the event from the wiki.
 
Honestly, David's best chance of surviving getting the stupid punched out of him would be to have the strongest Brute power he has available, combined with two strong healing powers. That might be enough to prevent chunky salsa/fine red mist.
 
FaerieKnight79 said:
As I understand it, things happened about like this:

Sophia encountered Taylor at the mall while Sophia was in costume and Taylor was in civilian attire. At the time, Taylor wasn't doing anything wrong. She was at the mall *gasp* shopping. And Sophia had zero indications that Taylor and Skitter were the same person. Sophia I believe started harassing Taylor, and tried arresting her on trumped up charges on the grounds of "They'll believe me rather then you, I'm a Hero."

Note that I haven't personally read the chapter in question. I only know of the event from the wiki.
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Close. Emma was being even more of a bitch than usual, did something I don't quite remember, with Taylor ending up slapping her with Shadow Stalker right behind Taylor waiting for a reason. SS then immediately arrested Taylor and reported to MM her version of the incident with MM having to process Taylor and praising SS for stepping in to stop the crime. Otherwise, more or less as you describe.
 
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jmcdavid said:
As someone who steers clear of canon Worm and Ward, I request context.
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Taylor slapped Emma at the mall, Shadow Stalker ziptied her hands and told her to go home. Because she might 'cause a riot' with her actions.
A riot breaking out actually was a concern. Bakuda was blowing people up solely to cause fear at the time, but SS could/should have resolved it a different way. From what I can tell, she was waiting for an opportunity to do one more thing to Taylor.
SS's little speech (and justification to be horrible to Taylor):
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"Look at this crowd. These people. They're scared. A place like this, with this much suppressed panic, fear and worry, this many people close together? I don't care if your daughter is an idiot or just ill. She's proven to be volatile in a powder-keg situation. It's both dangerous and stupid to have her here. You can cut off the plasti-cuffs when she's separated from anyone she might harm."

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did something I don't quite remember
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She smiled:
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Then Emma smiled. It was a look I'd seen so many times in the past few years.
It was the smile that had greeted me when I came back to school from the hospital, back in January, that look that let me know she wasn't done. The same expression she'd had when she was looking down on me, covered in juice and cola in the stall of the school bathroom. The one she'd been wearing when I'd come out of the showers to find my clothes crammed in the toilets, both my gym clothes and regular ones.
The same smile she'd had before she reminded me of how my mom had died, in front of everyone.

It was, simply the straw that broke the camel's back.
 
Random832 said:
The fact that she didn't know it would target Eidolon, or any cape, should be a more ironclad defense. Like ultimately it's not likely to happen, but if her power ever does randomly target some other cape at random in response to a question not clearly related to that cape and she gets charged on that basis, well, ultimately whether or not she can actually be confined by the legal system is inversely proportional to how bullshit she thinks the charges are.

Did she even know after the fact that it was targeting Eidolon, other than by manually reasoning out "who was in Canberra then and Houston now?"

Also I still don't understand what actually happened in terms of why it affected Eidolon - has her designating a target ever caused an immediate effect on that target before? Was it an interaction with a thinker power Eidolon was using (if so, she should be doubly considered not at fault)
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"Oops I didn't mean to kill them" still leaves you with involuntary manslaughter charges, which is what could have happened if not for both his active powers and Panacea there to heal him. Then add on the Endbringer Truce which intentionally boosts the severity of any crime explicitly to discourage any form of sabotage of the alliance between heroes and villains to deal with the endbringer threat. It is brushed aside because he easily made a full recovery, but the fact he was that injured means she was very close to being in real trouble if he had actually died.
 
On the other hand, if David had gotten his ticket punched (heh heh), that too may have called off all future Endbringer attacks, and ended that one immediately. After all, if the ongoing order is "Give me a good fight", and David gets splattered across the scenery... Mission complete, David no longer needs worthy opponents to fight.
 
*stalker trying to phase a bolt into Taylor*

*plink*

"... that wasn't supposed to happen, lemme try again"

*plink*

"performance issues?"

"I swear this never happened to me before"

"you know what they say, three in four"

"I am not a villain!"

"Says the one trying to shoot me in the back of the head while I was walking home unmasked, but hey there is some good news!"

"and what would that be?"

"now I can twist you into a pretzel and not have to sit through an hour-long PR rant about why it was wrong to do so"

"... the decision I made was calculated but boy am I bad at math"
 
I suspect Stalker would try something a bit more then a crossbow bolt this time. She already tried a crossbow while shifted into shadow, and it absolutely failed.

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And of course she'll have no idea about Tay literally walking away from the impact trench after being caught point blank by an absolutely massive explosion. Or the whole "hit by an invisible truck when unprepared for it" thing. So Sophia might try using a gun, thinking THAT will do the trick.
 
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Given his description of the distraction as feeling "[l]ike someone or something was laughing at me," it seems likely that some combination of Cyttorak and/or QA were enjoying the result of Taylor's hypothetical a liiiiittle too much. There are some other possible contenders, but those two are at the top of my list.
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Yup. Probably QA. Cyttorak would likely consider Eidolon as being beneath his notice, unworthy of attention. QA... probably doesn't have a very high opinion of the (undeployed) High Priest shard. As a (top-level, opposite number to QA) Thinker rather than a Warrior shard they're not doing a very good job...

[STUPID HOST]

[BEST HOST]
[SMUG]
 
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Just A Dude said:
Not out of character for her at all, but DAMN is that cold.

I just hope Taylor gets to fold her like origami in circumstances that are a net positive for her mental health.
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There's a trick Taylor hasn't tried, so far... Hitting capes from just the right angle to knock the shard right out of them... Anyone who claims, "She can't do that! It's not possible! They'd just turn into red mist! Or, at least, die!"...

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FaerieKnight79 said:
Well, they probably would still die. Shards do make the person they connect to dependent on the connection, and removing it is suppose to be fatal.
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Might we suspect that stopping people being punched turning into red mist, and being the top-level shard admin would be a reasonable combo of skill sets to prevent such deaths? If Shaper could be tapped for abilities, and directed at the de-shard'd host, could the damage be handled?

Might give Amy some strange visions...
 
Ace Dreamer said:
Might we suspect that stopping people being punched turning into red mist, and being the top-level shard admin would be a reasonable combo of skill sets to prevent such deaths? If Shaper could be tapped for abilities, and directed at the de-shard'd host, could the damage be handled?

Might give Amy some strange visions...
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My understanding is that "shard disconnecting" means instant death. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, no time for first aid, you just fall over dead. Destroying the two brain tumors shards create doesn't cause a disconnection, those just allow control of the granted ability.

In Hybrid Hive: Eat Shard Taylor and Hive do devise way to disconnect shards without killing the person, but it also requires healing them while disconnecting them to prevent death.
 
Given that Sophia is basically the Wish version of Kitty Pryde and Taylor is a smart version of Marko Cain with powers and feats he displays in comics when a writer really wants to make him shine any confrontation between the two would be really one-sided.
 
And given Sophia's demonstrated prowess at revising her opinions on anyone and anything, we can guarantee she'll keep trying until Taylor makes a crane origami out of her. Possibly after that.
 
arromdee said:
At the end of Worm, Contesda shoots Taylor, disconnecting her shard without killing her.
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We've had this discussion before; you cannot push two bits of metal through somebody's skull, back to front as described, and have them survive.

Any first year med student could tell you that. And no, tinkertech bullets don't work, because they're still foreign objects pushed though the skull and brain matter fast enough to not bounce off the front of the skull and bounce around all over the brain.

Nor does "Contessa can do anything humanly possibly"; she might be able to make the shot, but at this point in time, no one, in all of human history has survived two rounds as described. It's not, at this time, humanly possible. (And that without mentioning that it doesn't help Taylor anyway.)

I have done fifty-eight autopsies concerning firearm head trauma. It is my opinion that the described scene is not easily survivable. Maybe, with a first class trauma team on site, with luck the body will survive. But the path the rounds must take would destroy at least three of the areas of the brain governing memory and personality; the body might survive, but...

The person inside that meat sack would be dead and gone.
 
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