Metal Gear Solid V: Chronicles of Outer Heaven (MGS/Valkyria Chronicles)

Kept you waiting huh?

  • WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG!?

    Votes: 68 11.2%
  • SHUT UP AND LOOK OVER MY CHARACTER ALREADY!

    Votes: 10 1.7%
  • WELCOME BACK BOSS!

    Votes: 387 63.9%
  • BRING BACK THE CAT GIRLS ALREADY!

    Votes: 141 23.3%

  • Total voters
    606
Here's betting that instead of Lord of Dust we just got a standard big wormhole teleporting us into the Europa just to spite the folks who scared by Lord of Dust.
I'd be kinda sad we missed out on the chance of killing it and getting access to Nanomachine tech but otherwise I wouldn't mind it.

I'm less scared of it and treating it more 'Well this is probably helping. Might as well prepare best we can."
 
I'd be kinda sad we missed out on the chance of killing it and getting access to Nanomachine tech but otherwise I wouldn't mind it.

I'm less scared of it and treating it more 'Well this is probably helping. Might as well prepare best we can."
True. I'll be brutally honest, but i'm just sick of hearing any kind of mentions like this. It's annoying. But again, i do noted the concern, should it comes.

And my only opinion about the nanomachines is that well, "we're not ready for it yet."
 
If the other plan had Paz, I would maybe liek it more. It's true that Man of Fire may be better in the extra votes, once new omakes are tallied.

But I will not compromise on Paz.
 
Well sorry if I sound paranoid. But you never mess around with supernatural bullshit.

This is also metal gear, even worse shit can happen then you think can happen.

But seriously I don't trust that "corpse" and would rather drop it into the mid Atlantic trench after having it blessed and and wrapped up in enough chains for that thing to never be able to move again.

Konami literally said this is the tutorial turns and he isn't going to kill us or give us traps.

I understand being wary but this is the denuclearization thing all over again. When KK says that this option has us securing the body it's liable to be the option that lessens or even eliminates the chance of something bad happening because of it.

Also you can consider this insurance for dealing with Mantis. We need to get Psychic Bullshit studied so we can understand how he works and hopefully help the poor kid...well that and maybe we'll find out if Ocelot is actually a minor(?) psychic on account of his father.
 
[X]Plan Exiting In Style
-[X] R&D 2: Repairing Sahelanthropus
-[X] Main Ops 4: The Trial
-[X] Side Ops 2: Check on Paz *New Game+*
-[X] Main Ops 3: Recover the Man on Fire
-[X] Main Ops 5: Denuclearization 3 "A Glimpse of Today"
-[X] Side Ops 12: An Interview with the World
-[X] Side Ops 11: Beach Party *Must take Denuke 3*
-[X] PMC Ops 7: Wannabe Heroes
 
Konami literally said this is the tutorial turns and he isn't going to kill us or give us traps.
Paz is especially noted as a 'NG+' option. Those tend to, you know, fade after the beginning. As if they never existed to start with. And Paz's existence was not noted much by others so far. Which is how they treated her in TPP.

And if you guys need another reason than just because it's Paz and deserve better...

Remember: She CAN pilot a Metal Gear if needed.
 
Paz is especially noted as a 'NG+' option. Those tend to, you know, fade after the beginning. As if they never existed to start with. And Paz's existence was not noted much by others so far. Which is how they treated her in TPP.

And if you guys need another reason than just because it's Paz and deserve better...

Remember: She CAN pilot a Metal Gear if needed.
Oh yeah, if the Lord of Dust, does appear, who would you guys like to pilot it?

The seriously fucked up Boss AI, Eli, or Paz?


Paz this, Paz that, can ANY of you people show us even a single comment by KK saying that Paz's action will disappear after this turn?
Got no fuckin clue man. @ him yourself and ask.
 
Paz is especially noted as a 'NG+' option. Those tend to, you know, fade after the beginning. As if they never existed to start with. And Paz's existence was not noted much by others so far. Which is how they treated her in TPP.

And if you guys need another reason than just because it's Paz and deserve better...

Remember: She CAN pilot a Metal Gear if needed.

Paz is child sized, right?
 
[X] Plan Of Dreams and Hopes:
-[X] Main Ops 3: Recover the Man on Fire
-[X] Main Ops 4: The Trial
-[X] Main Ops 5: Denuclearization 3 "A Glimpse of Today"
-[X] R&D 2: Repairing Sahelanthropus
-[X] Side Ops 2: Check on Paz *New Game+*
-[X] PMC Ops 7: Wannabe Heroes
-[X] Side Ops 12: An Interview with the World
-[X] PMC Ops 6: Contra War
 
@RandomDwarf

I'm fairly certain that us recovering the man on Fire is a safeguard against anything messing with him and his corpse. Both from the canon 'Vulgin gave up the ghost' and because KK's not the type to put in a trap option like 'bring an angry ghost corpse into your base for the enemy to resurrect'.

Like, there's arguments to be made over how much of a risk not taking the option really is but I don't think anything here is going to hurt us.

Oh and as an aside I'm just thinking of the Lord Of Dust as the same weight class as metal gears and the colossi from shadow of the colossus. Incredibly dangerous but also incredibly overhyped and liable to have surprisingly exploitable weaknesses.


Metal gears aren't overhyped.

You put them up against a conventional force and they will rip it a new asshole.

Unfortunatelys for the Metal Gear's.

Anyone whoever had the codename "Snake" (And yes raiden was codenamed Snake for awhile.) is not a conventional military force. and are in fact worth a small nation's military all on their own.

Here's betting that instead of Lord of Dust we just got a standard big wormhole teleporting us into the Europa just to spite the folks who scared by Lord of Dust.


Except you know, Konami blatantly told us it was coming.

This Lord dust thing seems silly when I look it now.
Didn't play survive outside the demo but...

Don't things die even if they don't know what death is anyways?


Yeah my best guess is some sort of supernatural shenanigans.

Mostly because "Can't die because no concept of death" Is something that sounds like it was ripped straight from the Nasuverse.
 
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We aren't going to have the actions to waste on science once we transition to VC.

Let Ishmael deal with Volgin.
Says you. We should start with 6 Actions once we hit VC, +1 from the Wormhole Tech being done, +1 from Education, and then there's Omake Points.

We WILL have the actions to spend on Volgin's body. Don't try and use that as an excuse.
 
Says you. We should start with 6 Actions once we hit VC, +1 from the Wormhole Tech being done, +1 from Education, and then there's Omake Points.

We WILL have the actions to spend on Volgin's body. Don't try and use that as an excuse.

I'm pretty sure omake action coupons are tutorial only. And do we have WoG on wormhole finishing giving an extra action?
 
Omake Ops 8.3 (Eli) Ghost In The Machine by Dr. Snark (4CP)
So hey, here's an omake of Eli chatting with the Mammal Pod. I'm sure everything will be fine.

Ghost In The Machine - Eli

"This is it?" Eli thought to himself as he looked over the steel cylinder in front of him, the lights dimmed. "This is what all of the adults have been obsessing over? A hunk of metal?"

It had only been a few days since it was brought back to Mother Base - and in a fashion that made it almost impossible to camouflage. That hadn't gotten Eli's attention. What did get his attention was the reactions of people who visited the lab it was stored in - some would stumble out in a daze, others would be mumbling to themselves incoherently, Father had even looked uncharacteristically downcast after he visited it...

So Eli took it upon himself to acquire a pass while everyone was busy celebrating Father's mission to destroy nuclear programs across the world, and manged to slip in without being detected.

He wasn't expecting to be so disappointed though.

"So what's so special about you?" Eli called out mockingly as he leaned against a nearby wall. "As far as I can tell you're just a piece of junk."

The pod didn't respond, its lights still dark.

Eli scoffed and started to make his way towards the exit. "This was a waste of-"

"J-J-Jack?"

Eli whirled around to see that the pod had lit up, its "eye" now bright red.

"Finally, I was beginning to think this was a waste of my time," Eli quipped as he leaned against the wall opposite from the pod, staring it down with a look of contempt. "So...you're an AI then? Fine. Out with it. What's so important about you?"

"T-the q-q-quick brown fox j-jumps over theeeeeeeeeeee lazy hound."

Eli rolled his eyes. He'd heard the sentence before - though its only claim to fame was containing every letter in the English alphabet. "Come on. Are you actually going to say something interesting?"

"Pi isssssssss...piiiiiiiii i-is...about 3."

"Bah," Eli scoffed, starting to leave. "You're just a useless-"

"Iiiiiiiiiiii - I've been waiting Snake."

Eli stopped, facing the pod again. That woman's voice wasn't glitched out like before...

"Waiting for a long time. For your birth, your growth, and the finality of today."

He leaned against the wall again, though this time he was paying much closer attention. "...Who are you?"

"In June of 1944, I participated in the Normandy invasion. I was pregnant with The Sorrow's child, and gave birth on the battlefield. My baby boy was taken from me by the Philosophers. This scar is the only remaining proof I was a mother. There is nothing left inside me now. No emotions. Yet at night, I feel the pain creeping up and down my body like a snake."

"That doesn't answer my question!" Eli shouted, frustrated. He knew there was more to this! "Who are you!?"

"I didn't raise you and shape you into the man you are today just so we could face each other in battle. A soldier's skills aren't meant to be used to hurt friends. So then, what is an enemy?"

"Whoever is trying to kill you."

"Is there such a thing as an absolute, timeless enemy?"

Eli clenched his right fist, an image of Father entering his mind unbidden. "Of course there is."

"There is no such thing and never has been. And the reason is that our enemies are human beings like us. They can only be our enemies in relative terms."

"You're wrong," Eli coldly replied, a dark scowl on his face. "People will find whatever reason they need to hate their enemies." The pod went silent, though it remained active as Eli leaned forward. "Come on. What is it about you? Why do you matter so much to the adults here?"

"IIiiiiii-I hear it's a-a-amazing when the famous pur-purple stuffed w-w-worm in flaaaaaaaaaaaaap-jaw space with the t-t-tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock. I need s-s-scissors! 61!"

"Come on! Don't you dare glitch out on me now! I know you have answers!"

"S-shall we walllllllllk through the r-rainy plain of Spain?"

"Damn it!" Eli charged over to the pod and began beating his fists against it. "Work, you broken piece of junk!"

"Theeeeeeeeeeeee - The world must be made whole."

Eli backpedaled once he heard the sudden change in the AI's voice again. "What are you talking about?"

"The world used to be whole, but with the end of the Second World War, the Philosophers began to fight amongst themselves and the world was torn apart. The foibles of politics and the march of time can turn friends into enemies just as easily as the wind changes. Yesterday's ally becomes tomorrow's opposition."

"Are - are you serious!?" Eli shouted at the pod. "The world was never whole! It's been divided since the dawn of man by geography, language, culture-"

"We have no tomorrow, but we have hope for the future. In 1960, I saw a vision of the ideal future from space. I could see the planet as it appeared from space. That's when it finally hit me. The Earth itself has no boundaries. No East, no West, no Cold War. In the 21st century, everyone will be able to see that we are all just inhabitants of a little celestial body called Earth. A world without communism and capitalism... that is the world I wanted to see."

Eli blinked, trying to process what he'd just heard. "Is...is that it?"

"Reality continued to betray me. The sacrifice of war causes a shift in the times, this shift leads to new conflicts, and in turn newer wars. Like the atom bomb, each reaction sparks many others. An endless cycle of war."

"All I'm hearing is that whoever you were, you chose to run away from reality!" Eli shouted back. "War is human nature, and it's gone back to the dawn of history."

The pod went silent again.

"You...I can't believe this," Eli said, laughter starting to escape his lips as he processed the insanity of what he'd been hearing. "This is what Father and the others have been so obsessed about? The barely functioning AI based on someone who couldn't face reality?"

At this point Eli had broke out into openly mocking laughter, the pod quietly humming as it echoed throughout the room.

"What a joke. I can't believe anyone would believe in a coward like you."

"I gave my body and my child for my country."

"...What?"

"As long as we have loyalty 'til the end there's no point in believing in anything, even in those we love. The only thing we can believe in, with absolute certainty, is the mission, Jack."

That caused Eli to go over what he'd heard so far. She was loyal to her country but believed in a world without boundaries?

"...That doesn't make any sense," Eli said to the pod after a moment of thought. "If you believed in that dream of a world made whole why would you stay loyal to one country?" He unconsciously clenched his right fist again as his voice rose in intensity. "You could have chosen to defy whoever your superiors were, to seize control of your own destiny, to truly make your mark on the world! Instead you gave your body and soul to a country that you didn't believe in! Why!?"

The pod remained silent.

"I was wrong before. Whoever you were you weren't a coward, I'll give you that. But you were clearly a fool." His fist tightened as something else came to mind. "No. You were worse than that. You left behind your wishes but didn't have the will to see them through yourself! Instead you foisted them on others like Father! Was that it then!? Is that the person that everyone's been worshiping!?"

The pod continued to remain silent, though whether it chose to do so or simply didn't have an answer wasn't apparent to Eli.

"You're just like the rest of them, forcing those who follow after you down paths that they didn't want to tread. And all for the sake of a so-called wish that you chose not to work towards." He shook his head and started to storm out of the room. "To think, this is what they-"

"Llllllllllllll - Liquid Snake."

Eli stopped and turned to face the pod, his face morphed into one of raw fury. "What did you just call me?"

"E-E-Ekitaijin. Translaaaaaaaaation: L-L-Liquid Man."

Eli's fury quickly morphed into confusion before he remembered that it was the translation for the kanji emblazoned on the back of his jacket.

"S-S-Snake. Snake. There is nothing left inside me now. No emotions. Yet at night, I feel the pain creeping up and down my body like a snake."

For a moment Eli debated trying to figure out what the pod was trying to say to him before grumbling to himself and storming out of the room in a huff, the lights automatically turning off behind him.

"Stupid machine..."

Though as the door closed behind Eli the pod remained active, its red eye shining in the darkness of the unlit room.

"T-t-t - The Philosophers must be reunited. Just as I created the Cobras. They are my family. I may no longer be able to bear children, but I still have a family."

Word count: 1525

AN: Wanna give credit to @Always Late who helped inspire this omake. Aside from that I don't have much to say except I figured that The "Youth Who Curses His Fate" would have far more issues with the Boss' ideology than anyone else.
 
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