Would you be interested in having a Discord server for Mami Said Knock You Out?

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To tell you the truth, I was just trying to find something disadvantageous in Yuma's abilities.

( the less ambitious the Wish is, the less harm it does in the long run, I suppose? )
From what I get the most disadvantadgeous part of Yuma's abilities is that it isn't that good for attacking so Yuma may struggle with Witch hunts when solo. Since she usually fights with Kyoko it isn't a concern normally, though.
 
From what I get the most disadvantadgeous part of Yuma's abilities is that it isn't that good for attacking so Yuma may struggle with Witch hunts when solo.

Yeah. Still, not really a disadvantage, more like a "lack of advantage", I guess?

Well, let's chalk it up to Yuma's disadvantage being that her abilities are too dependent on someone fighting beside her, preferably Kyouko.

Come to think of it, every Magical Girl has a disadvantage. I can already see it. :V
( Kyouko Malus, Rip and Tear
Mami Malus, Ribbon in a Knife Fight
Homura Malus, Witch Time Malus, Way Over Your Head
Sayaka Malus, Stupid Fish Emotional Wreck Knight Errant
Madoka Malus, Star of Icarus Malus, Bride of Faust )

Most of them manage to pull through. Alright, about half of them.
 
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[X] Run away.

Agree about listening and not taking unnecessary risks.
 
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Yeah. Still, not really a disadvantage, more like a "lack of advantage", I guess?

Well, let's chalk it up to Yuma's disadvantage being that her abilities are too dependent on someone fighting beside her, preferably Kyouko.

Come to think of it, every Magical Girl has a disadvantage. I can already see it. :V
( Kyouko Malus, Rip and Tear
Mami Malus, Ribbon in a Knife Fight
Homura Malus, Witch Time Malus, Way Over Your Head
Sayaka Malus, Stupid Fish Emotional Wreck
Madoka Malus, Star of Icarus Malus, Bride of Faust )

Most of them manage to pull through. Alright, about half of them.
I don't think you're right on your statistics. Disregarding the world after Madoka's wish, as well as any timelines where Sayaka didn't contract and/or Kyoko didn't come to Mitakihara, Kyoko, Mami, Madoka and Sayaka have a 0% survival rate, whereas only Homura has 100%.
 
I don't think you're right on your statistics. Disregarding the world after Madoka's wish, as well as any timelines where Sayaka didn't contract and/or Kyoko didn't come to Mitakihara, Kyoko, Mami, Madoka and Sayaka have a 0% survival rate, whereas only Homura has 100%.

I mean, they manage to mitigate their disadvantages, not survive.

Surviving is waaay harder.
 
I don't think you're right on your statistics. Disregarding the world after Madoka's wish, as well as any timelines where Sayaka didn't contract and/or Kyoko didn't come to Mitakihara, Kyoko, Mami, Madoka and Sayaka have a 0% survival rate, whereas only Homura has 100%.
Homura only has that going for her due to save-scumming. I always wonder what happens to failed timeline-Homura's when Homura-prime rewinds her shield.

Do they wake up to a world that despises them, not knowing why they are not in the hospital, seconds away from being killed by Wally or Kriemheld? Or are they consumed whenever Homura-Prime hijacks their body? Do they basically go to sleep one-night...and never wake-up?

These are the questions I ponder whenever Homura's abilities come up.
 
Homura only has that going for her due to save-scumming. I always wonder what happens to failed timeline-Homura's when Homura-prime rewinds her shield.

Do they wake up to a world that despises them, not knowing why they are not in the hospital, seconds away from being killed by Wally or Kriemheld? Or are they consumed whenever Homura-Prime hijacks their body? Do they basically go to sleep one-night...and never wake-up?

These are the questions I ponder whenever Homura's abilities come up.

Homura is an existential crisis waiting to happen.

I prefer to think she merges with Homuras she inhabits and pulls them with her. Although that's bullshit, because her potential doesn't increase, unlike Madoka.
 
Although that's bullshit, because her potential doesn't increase, unlike Madoka.

Do we know that for sure? I believe I heard it posited before that Homura's potential actually does increase, only she can't do anything with it in the general case because she's already made her wish and that's the time the potential is accessed and her potential gain isn't retroactive. I believe I've also heard it posited that such a potential increase might have contributed (along with the precise nature of her Wish and her metaphysical entwinement with Madoka) to her ability to Akuma Homura.
 
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Do we know that for sure? I believe I heard it posited before that Homura's potential actually does increase, only she can't do anything with it in the general case because she's already made her wish and that's the time the potential is accessed and her potential gain isn't retroactive. I believe I've also heard it posited that such a potential increased might have contributed (along with the precise nature of her Wish and her metaphysical entwinement with Madoka) to her ability to Akuma Homura.

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Orrrrr.

Her Hair sucks up the inflow of Potential!

That's why it looks nicer with each restart!

Mystery solved.:V

( nevertheless, that's a really interesting theory, thanks for sharing. )
 
Homura is an existential crisis waiting to happen.

I prefer to think she merges with Homuras she inhabits and pulls them with her. Although that's bullshit, because her potential doesn't increase, unlike Madoka.
Do we know that for sure? I believe I heard it posited before that Homura's potential actually does increase, only she can't do anything with it in the general case because she's already made her wish and that's the time the potential is accessed and her potential gain isn't retroactive. I believe I've also heard it posited that such a potential increased might have contributed (along with the precise nature of her Wish and her metaphysical entwinement with Madoka) to her ability to Akuma Homura.
Pretty sure she gained a second well of potential for every timeline she visited and Homura she absorbed. I think she tapped into it to make the second wish to 'remember' Madoka (which gave her the wings, bow and the ability to achieve miracles I.e. punk Madokami despite her being omniprescient).
 
Homura only has that going for her due to save-scumming. I always wonder what happens to failed timeline-Homura's when Homura-prime rewinds her shield.

Do they wake up to a world that despises them, not knowing why they are not in the hospital, seconds away from being killed by Wally or Kriemheld? Or are they consumed whenever Homura-Prime hijacks their body? Do they basically go to sleep one-night...and never wake-up?

These are the questions I ponder whenever Homura's abilities come up.
It's not save-scumming, actually. If you think about it, it's Madoka who is save-scumming, because time is reloaded every time she dies, even if she's not the one doing the reloading. Homura meanwhile is Ironmanning it, and if she dies or gives up, it's over.

Also as far as we know the timelines Homura abandoned no longer exist (although Madokami still remembers, and so do presumably other dead people). She doesn't swap places with a version of herself, she just returns to that point. It's time travel, not universe hopping.
 
Also as far as we know the timelines Homura abandoned no longer exist (although Madokami still remembers, and so do presumably other dead people). She doesn't swap places with a version of herself, she just returns to that point. It's time travel, not universe hopping.

There has been some consternation about this fact, due to WoG and I believe supplementary materials? While I tend to fall on the side that Homura's power is some variety of time travel over some variety of slider bullshit, just because literally all of her thematic elements point to time, and thematic elements are a Big Thing in this show, I believe there's sufficient evidence floating around that make the slider theory a Legitimate Thing, and thus problematic to make consistent with other assessments of Homura's powers.

Someone who knows more, correct me on this?
 
There has been some consternation about this fact, due to WoG and I believe supplementary materials? While I tend to fall on the side that Homura's power is some variety of time travel over some variety of slider bullshit, just because literally all of her thematic elements point to time, and thematic elements are a Big Thing in this show, I believe there's sufficient evidence floating around that make the slider theory a Legitimate Thing, and thus problematic to make consistent with other assessments of Homura's powers.

Someone who knows more, correct me on this?
Just judging from the show, I feel like either QB or Madokami would have mentioned it at some point if that was what was happening. Besides, if Homura swaps places with an alternate herself, how does it make the world hinge on *insert_current_Madoka* at all? Where does Madoka get the potential if these are alternative timelines and her other selves still exist elsewhere?
 
On the other hand, there's mention in some of the background notes of timelines where small things are different that can't be a result of Homura's actions. Like one timeline where Kyouske is a guitar prodigy. So it's not quite accurate to say things reset to "default" when she loops either. The most likely answer is that the writers didn't care about the exact mechanics when it's all magic anyways.
 
On the other hand, there's mention in some of the background notes of timelines where small things are different that can't be a result of Homura's actions. Like one timeline where Kyouske is a guitar prodigy. So it's not quite accurate to say things reset to "default" when she loops either. The most likely answer is that the writers didn't care about the exact mechanics when it's all magic anyways.
Didn't Urobuichi and Co. outright state that they have no idea how Homura's wish actually works in regards to its time travel ability?
 
Omake: The Coolest Kid On The Block
'What is she doing what is she waiting for?!'

00:08

"YUMA HURRY UP!"

00:06

"Big sis..."

00:04

'Why're you looking at me like that!?'

00:03

'SHIT-'

Kyouko leaped-

-and Homura's vice grip knocked the wind out of her.

00:02

"LET ME GO! YUMA IS STILL-"

"Goddamn it Sakura, we need to get out-"

"YUMA-!"

00:01

"Big Sis, d-don't-!"

00:00

"NO-!"

A CATACLYSMIC EXPLOSION OF SOUND AND MUSIC!

"DON'T CALL IT A COMEBACK!"

"-?"

"I've been here for years, I'm rocking my peers, puttin' suckers in fear!"

"..."

"Makin' the tears rain down like a monsoon, listen to the bass go boom, explosio~ns,"

Kyouko gaped as Yuma sang on top of the Witch, shouting into her mace as it were an oversized microphone.

"-Overpowerin', over the competition I'm towerin', wrecking shop when I write these lyrics that'll make you call the cops!"

Panels slid open across the Witch, multicolored lights blasting out alongside smoke and fog, which quickly covers the Barrier's ground.

"Don't you dare stare, you better move! Don't ever compare Me to the rest that'll all get sliced and diced. Competition's payin' the price!"

Familiars came back running, ditching their hazmat suits and starting to move like crazy, dancing to Yuma's beats.

"I'm gonna knock you out, MAMI SAID KNOCK YOU OUT!"

Kyouko's eye twitched.

"I'm gonna knock you out-!"

"Mami said knock you out!"

"I'm gonna knock you out, Mami said knock you out!"

"I'm gonna-rbhgh..." a familiar dropped, bleeding from the throat.

"I'm gonna knock you out, Mami said knock you out!"

"I'm gonna knock you out, Mami said knock you out!"

"I'm gonna knock you out, Mami said knock you out!"

"I'm gonna knock you out, Mami said knock you out!"

Completely lost amongst the cacophony, the sound of Kyouko's palm smacking against her forehead. The redhead bit out a prayer-slash-curse and joined Homura in covertly taking out the Familiars dancing to Yuma's... jam.

Minutes Yuma stood on stage -atop the Witch- singing like a madgirl, to end repeating the chorus for the last time

"I'm gonna knock you out!" she gestured a raised hand towards the remaining three Familiars.

"Mami said knock you o-!"

The Familiar's head flew off, sliced cleanly off its neck.

"I'm gonna knock you out!"

"Mami said knock- glurk..."

Another one bit the dust.

"I'm gonna knock you out!" Yuma pointed at the last one, all the lights came to rest upon the last remaining Familiar in the Barrier.

The previously hazmat covered strange being laughed derangedly and shouted his best:

"MAMI S-"

CRACK!

Homura calmly put a handgun away as the bleeding corpse hit the floor.

Yuma stood, breathing heavily, looking down at her two seniors, who looked at her.

The little green haired girl shrugged and gave one last bellow into her mace-microphone.

"MAMI SAID KNOCK YOU OUT!"

Then at once she dropped the mace and casually leaped off the Witch-

The mace glowed.

Kyouko tapped a foot, raising an eyebrow at the falling girl.

A blinding light as the mace made contact with the spherical Witch.

Yuma smiled.

The Mace EXPLODED like a mini nuke behind Yuma, propelling her towards Kyouko as the Witch was obliterated.

Kyouko deftly caught the little girl and jumped through the Barrier's exit, Homura holding it open from outside long enough for them to fit through.


The girls landed in a regular alleway, nothing out of the ordinary beyond their outfits.

"I don't know what the fuck just happened," commented Kyouko.

Yuma smiled a smug smile. "Don't feel bad for not being the coolest girl around anymore, Big Sis?"

"Whatever are you on about, brat?"

The green haired girl shared a knowing look with the third member of their little party.

Homura flipped her hair and declared in a deadpan tone:

"Cool girls don't look at explosions."
 
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On the other hand, there's mention in some of the background notes of timelines where small things are different that can't be a result of Homura's actions.

It's worth noting that in the earliest timelines (I'm going off the movie since that's what I saw last but I don't think it strictly matters) Mami talked about how she knew Walpurgisnacht was coming through... methods, I guess, and then Mami shows absolutely no sign of knowing that at all in the "current" timeline. And it's worth noting that she felt the need to talk to Sayaka and Madoka about it right out of the gate (And Homura by proxy) so she clearly considered it a pretty big deal at the time. Not to mention there are times when Kyouko comes back to Mitakihara even though Mami is still alive (Sayaka mentions one time to Mami and Madoka that she thinks Homura is in league with Kyouko, for instance).

Like honestly Homura's ability being strictly time travel makes little sense because there are massive butterflies that simply have absolutely nothing to do with her, as far as we can tell. So either Homura's ability makes the timeline unstable to the point that things can change on a whim (rather unlikely given how many loops she went through) or at a bare minimum she is traversing something akin to Steins;Gate's worldlines where it is something akin to our reality except for one or two key points of divergence.
 
It's worth noting that in the earliest timelines (I'm going off the movie since that's what I saw last but I don't think it strictly matters) Mami talked about how she knew Walpurgisnacht was coming through... methods, I guess, and then Mami shows absolutely no sign of knowing that at all in the "current" timeline. And it's worth noting that she felt the need to talk to Sayaka and Madoka about it right out of the gate (And Homura by proxy) so she clearly considered it a pretty big deal at the time. Not to mention there are times when Kyouko comes back to Mitakihara even though Mami is still alive (Sayaka mentions one time to Mami and Madoka that she thinks Homura is in league with Kyouko, for instance).

Like honestly Homura's ability being strictly time travel makes little sense because there are massive butterflies that simply have absolutely nothing to do with her, as far as we can tell. So either Homura's ability makes the timeline unstable to the point that things can change on a whim (rather unlikely given how many loops she went through) or at a bare minimum she is traversing something akin to Steins;Gate's worldlines where it is something akin to our reality except for one or two key points of divergence.
Mami did know somehow, and later didn't. At least some of the differences were clearly due to unforeseen changes directly tied to Homura or Madoka (for example, the whole Oriko debacle). It's possible that there are other factors that would make Kyoko come to Mitakihara, or that Homura attracted her somehow, perhaps directly invited her to join the team (in the case of timeline where the main five were all working together for a bit until Sayaka witched out). For Mami, it's likely that QB told her in that first timeline but not later ones because of some Madoka-related consideration. Or perhaps Walpurgis's power grew due to looping (as it was largely because of her as well) and QB no longer considered it plausible that warning Mami would make a difference.

Another thing to consider: sometimes wishes are retroactive. If there were any such wishes made in the world during Homura's loops, presumably she would roll the time back to before the wish was made, but it would still be in effect, so next time around that girl would either make a different wish (potentially another retroactive one) or not become an MG at all.

Overall, this is vague enough that any fanfic author can decide for themselves. Some fanfics are set in wildly different timelines. Here, the whole Yuma situation may have been butterflied into existence by... something, or it could be a worldline difference as you said.
 
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Overall, this is vague enough that any fanfic author can decide for themselves. Some fanfics are set in wildly different timelines. Here, the whole Yuma situation may have been butterflied into existence by... something, or it could be a worldline difference as you said.

Like, at the end of the day, yeah you can argue that there were off-screen points of divergence that would cause radically different results in some cases but not others, or just say "Maybe Mami actually contacted Kyouko because she decided to wanted to try to make amends and Kyouko was willing to give it a shot" say. And like, I think that "Sayaka becoming a magical girl in some loops but not others" say isn't really a big deal because I could see that being either in Homura's sphere of influence in one way or another, or some retroactive wish funness. I guess my issue with that is that we have no evidence for it and it feels more like ad hoc explanations rather than anything based on the material proper, if that makes sense?

I don't really mean to say "Anybody that thinks it's time travel are idiots" and I apologize if I gave that impression so much as "I feel like the arguments don't really hold up that well outside supposition and as a result the position doesn't feel sensical from my perspective." Admittedly my life is a mess and it's probably influencing my tone a bit, so anybody offended I sincerely apologize for that.

I agree that at like... at the end of the day you can argue whatever, and I'll happily accept it as your interpretation of the material. I'm not too picky, even if I strongly disagree on a personal level.
 
I guess my issue with that is that we have no evidence for it and it feels more like ad hoc explanations rather than anything based on the material proper, if that makes sense?
In the absence of a clear official interpretation, isn't every explanation going to be ad hoc? We know there are changes in timelines. We aren't aware of any "day zero" changes - as in, Homura seems to always go back to the exact same state in the exact same world. But then again we don't know there aren't any. We know many events play out exactly the same again and again, while others seem to change, often in ways that don't obviously follow from Homura's interference.

Clearly a large portion of it comes directly from Homura's interference, and a portion comes from indirect effects (Madoka's potential, most notably). Is that enough to explain everything? Hard to say, therefore speculation. We can speculate based on elements portrayed in canon material (potential, retroactive wishes, QB actions, butterfly effect), or think up completely new ones (world lines, swapping with different versions, etc.). It seems like the former approach is inherently closer to the source material, so I don't quite understand why it'd be more supposition than the alternative. But it is vague enough that I don't disagree with alternative interpretations either, especially if they make for good stories.
 
It seems like the former approach is inherently closer to the source material, so I don't quite understand why it'd be more supposition than the alternative. But it is vague enough that I don't disagree with alternative interpretations either, especially if they make for good stories.

It's closer to the source material, but not in a way that has much explanatory power in some cases. We know that these mechanisms that could cause change exist, yeah. I'd agree with that, and I've even agreed that in some cases it makes perfect sense to assume that that's a factor. But then you extend beyond those cases and it doesn't work as well, so you have to plug in holes with things like "Kyubey didn't tell Mami because of Madoka" for instance, or "Mami must have communicated with Kyouko in these particular timelines when she didn't for Reason X" or "Kyouko changed her mind and wanted to reconcile with Mami before she died for Reason X". We have no canonical basis for believing any of these things, and the only way to get the butterfly effect to logically follow in these instances is to further assume things we have no reason to assume. Like you have mechanisms that could explain these things, but we have no evidence to assume that they do.

And I don't think that is as true, at least, with the alternate explanation. Like here's the three things we need to assume, I think, for the alternate universe et al theory to be a completely coherent explanation.

1. This must be a possible wish. Given the wishes in canon, I would say that canonically this is more or less fine.
2. Kyubey has to be wrong about the nature of Homura's magic. Given that this is not the original universe/worldline and Kyubey is completely basing this on speculation, more or less, I don't think there is any problem here.
3. Homura needs to not necessarily be aware of how her magic works. This one is kind of the one where we have to make further assumptions, but they're pretty logical ones. The source material never gives any indication that MGs automatically know how their powers work, in fact if anything I'd say there's slight evidence of the opposite. Kyubey would never be able to tell her exactly how her magic functions because she immediately time travels/shifts. And if we grant that, then her assumption that it's time travel, given the nature of her wish and that the rest of her magic is time based (or seems to be), makes perfect sense, even if it's totally incorrect.

And given that in my eyes it's a more parsimonious explanation of the things that seem to not make that much sense under the time travel explanation without adding any additional assumptions/theoretical explanations onto it, overall it just works better.
 
Acclimitization 2.9
[X] Run away.
-[X] Bravely


Discretion, you decide, is the better part of valor. You jump off of the witch, legs pumping as soon as you hit the ground. Kyoko and Homura aren't that far away, but you're not entirely sure you'll make it; you're not exhausted, per se, but you're not at the top of your game, not after sprinting through a hallway and fighting a witch.

Kyoko seems to realize this as well, swearing to herself and splitting her spear into chain segments.

"Yuma, grab on!" she yells, sending the butt segment flying your way. What on earth is she… Ohhhh….

You catch the spear segment as it flies past you, grabbing onto it with both hands. Kyoko pulls on the spear, tugging you forward and sending you flying towards her.

As you fly closer to them, you can better see the expressions on their faces. Kyoko's can't seem to decide if she's angry or worried, and Homura keeps with her stone-cold visage, though a slight downward turn of her lips and crinkling of her eyes leads you to think she might be… worried for you? Aww, how nice.

Now, how are you going to land? You're going a bit fast, and you're only getting closer to the exit. Unless that's Kyoko's plan, to fling you through the exit without coming to a stop. If so, she better not miss.

Kyoko's aim is spot-on, and you fly through the exit, rolling on the cement ground of the alleyway. You roll to a stop, sitting up and rubbing your shoulder as you hear Kyoko and Homura coming through the exit as well.

"Yuma, you okay?" asks Kyoko, worry seeping into her voice as she kneels down beside you, detransforming.

"Yuma's fine," you say, detransforming to match her. "The Witch-"

"The witch will explode in three, two, one…" says Homura, letting the doorway to the barrier shrink until it's about the size of your hand.

"Explodes?" you ask. "Is that what it was going to do?"

"All signs point to that conclusion," says Homura. "Now, to see if I was correct."

She reopens the entrance, hopping inside it, hand on her shield. Kyoko sits down, leaning against the alley wall as she waits for Homura to come back.

Homura re-emerges a few seconds later, the exit collapsing behind her.

"Is it dead?" asks Kyoko.

"It blew itself up," Homura says, tossing a grief seed to Kyoko and detransforming as she does. "There were pieces of it scattered all over the room as if it had... shattered before the explosion. Nevertheless, we can put that behind us, now."

"So it was a self-destruct," says Kyoko. "Well, good thing we got out when we did."

"A good thing indeed," says Homura. "Now, Yuma Chitose, I believe you mentioned something about dinner?"

You nod, pushing yourself up."We should pick something up from a fast-food place, then go eat at our hotel. Once we're there, we can talk about being a team."

"Fine by me," says Kyoko. You notice she's pocketed the grief seed without using it, though you can't tell how much corruption she has. Manifesting your soul gem, you see that your soul gem is just over a third in terms of corruption.

You lead the way, arms swinging as you walk towards the nearest McNaldo's. There's an awkward silence, no one wanting to discuss the recent witch, waiting until you're at the hotel to discuss the topic of a team, and with too heavy-hearted an atmosphere to joke around.

"So, uh, Big Sis," you say, trying to break the silence. "That sure was an explosive fight! Ehh, ehh!"

The two of them stare at you, unamused by your feeble attempt at a joke. Your awkward laughter dies out, and the atmosphere returns to how it was.

"Hey, Yuma," says Big Sis. "Nice job, uhh, with the witch. You did good."

You smile at the praise, rushing back to wrap your arms around Big Sis Kyoko.

"Ah, Yuma! I was walking, don't just-" she cuts herself off, sighing and patting you on the back. "You're a little hug-monster, you know that?"

"Completely unstoppable," you say. "No matter who you are, where you are, what you are, Yuma will hug you."

Out of the corner of your eye, you can see Homura backing away. Your prey is expecting you, it seems, so you may have to wait for a better moment.

"Yuma, okay, you can stop now," says Big Sis. "The McNaldo's is right there, but we can't get to it unless you let me go."

You frown, but let Kyoko back out into the world. She pats you on the shoulder, content with her freedom, and continues onto the McNaldo's.

Ordering the food only takes a few minutes, and the three of you walk out with a bag of burgers and fries. It's been entrusted to Homura, whom you all agree is the only one capable of not stealing a fry or two, and you're inside the hotel room a few minutes after that.

"Alrighty then, let's get eating!" says Kyoko, rubbing her hands and licking her lips.

"Kyoko Sakura, were we not about to discuss creating a team?" says Homura.

Oh yeah. That.

"Right," says Kyoko, smile dropping off her face. "I'm not so sure that's a good idea. Yuma and I get by just fine by ourselves, and you've got to know what can happen when things go bad."

"I will admit, my motivation in this matter is not entirely selfless," says Homura. "In two and a half weeks, a witch known as Walpurgisnacht will arrive in Mitakihara city. I intend to fight it, and the four of us magical girls will need to be able to fight side-by-side if we plan on standing a chance."

Kyoko stiffens, food pushed to the back of her mind.

"Woah woah woah, hold the fuck up. Who said anything about fighting a Walpargishnect?"

"Me," says Homura. "Just now, in fact." She sighs, running a hand through her hair. "I can understand if you wish for time to think, but sooner or later I will need to know if you plan on helping me or not."

Well, that kind of brings the conversation away from making a team.

So, now you've got two issues, Walpookissnay and whether or not to form a team.

Wait, should Sayaka and Madoka be here for this? You left them out initially, since neither knows much about the pros and cons of making a team, but shouldn't they know about Walpurgisnacht, and whatever else Homura has to say?

What do you do?

[ ] About Walpurgisnacht…
--[ ] Try to convince Kyoko to fight Walpurgisnacht.
--[ ] Agree with Kyoko about not fighting Walpurgisnacht.
--[ ] Put it off for later.

[ ] Ask Kyoko and Homura if you could invite Sayaka and Madoka.
--[ ] Invite Sayaka
--[ ] Invite Madoka

[ ] How do you approach the subject of making a team?
--[ ] All of you need to be friends, and be a close-knit team
--[ ] You should fight together, but not much more than that.
--[ ] You should stay separate.

[ ] Write-In, for any of the above.
 
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[X] About Walpurgisnacht…
-[x] Agree with Kyoko about not fighting Walpurgisnacht.

[X] Ask Kyoko and Homura if you could invite Sayaka and Madoka.
--[x] Invite Sayaka
--[x] Invite Madoka

[X] How do you approach the subject of making a team?
--[x] All of you need to be friends, and be a close-knit team


Just evacuate, no need to fight it. It's a magical natural disaster.
 
Ack. IC not fighting Walpurgis is a legitimate option. But of course OOC if we don't, Homura is going to lose again and either loop once more or perhaps Madoka will make her wish. Either way we won't have impact on the story.

Welp, we can't just abandon the city, can we? We'll have to fight.

I think it makes IC sense to invite Madoka, even if OOC we definitely don't want her to contract anytime soon.

[X] About Walpurgisnacht…
--[X] Try to convince Kyoko to fight Walpurgisnacht.
---[X] It can't be that tough, right?
----[X] Upon finding out that it totally can, note that we kinda need this city to keep standing

[X] Ask Kyoko and Homura if you could invite Sayaka and Madoka.
--[X] Invite Sayaka
--[X] Invite Madoka

[X] How do you approach the subject of making a team?
--[X] All of you need to be friends, and be a close-knit team
 
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