Magical Girl Quest - The Fire That Burns
- Thread starter Rukia
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Omega is not fast enough for that; it takes a while to ramp up its destructive power after all. The bullet enters its reach in the same second it hits Cerys, so that time is simply not there.
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This seems really overpriced. It's basically Laser using MM instead of Base Damage, except that it can also be used defensively.
Considering that our MM grows much more slowly than our Base Damage unless we eat tons of things with A&O, this doesn't seem like something that justifies that high of a cost.
It's a bit more useful if it can be used with spells too, since it's effect would get doubled by Thermal Spears' Double Cast, but it still seems like it's main use would be to situationally sacrifice an action to increase our defense.
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In fairness, prices in this Quest are generally higher because of how much EXP you get.
Additionally, this Ability's main quality is being a defensive boost for you; which is understandably more valuable to a DPS like Cerys.
That aside, keep in mind that growing your MM this other way is basically free while increasing damage or defense the normal way is pricey. 850xp is about five levels in any Spell or Infinity Edge, but can sustain you much further in the long run.
I am more amused by the fact you find 850 for that overpriced, but have nothing to say about the other Shop Items.
I know that stuff is more expensive here. I took that into account.
I meant it seems overpriced relative to the other shop items. For example, adding Juggernaut to a big, powerful AOE spell is a huge change that greatly amplifies how good it is at its job, and adding what seems to be an anti-god ability to it is a huge deal and is the kind of thing that should be super expensive and require a high level as a prereq.
The Ignition Aura upgrade I can't comment on because I can never remember how it scales. How 10% of 638 relates to 1340.
And obviously I can't comment on the things with unknown prices
As for using Magic Surge defensively, that's primarily useful only if either of the following is the case.
- Daiyu isn't around to tank and we have far more APT than our opponent has dangerous actions per turn.
- Daiyu couldn't block an attack aimed at us.
It's kinda comparable to a low end Skilled/Dodge variant in that respect. More flexible than both, but also weaker than both.
As for actual numbers on defense, right now 850 EXP could give us the ability to burn actions to add 638 defense per action. Against an opponent with two APT that's equivalent to either having 3 actions plus an extra 638 defense or having one action plus an extra 1276 defense.
To contrast with that, 750 EXP dumped into Plate Armor would add 700 extra Base Resilience while keeping 5 actions per turn. Having the DPS spend that much on defense isn't wise, so the fact that it gives a bigger benefit than the new ability does should say a lot.
Of course, getting buffed by Daiyu's (and Una's, once she unlocks it) Knight's Aria does improve the effect of Magic Surge substantially, but even then I'd still generally prefer Skilled or Skillful Dodge defensively.
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Two things:
1) Giving you a chance to hide behind your tank in all situations is bad design
2) I said "in the long run"
I could say more about it... but honestly, if nobody else can see the use in this Ability, that is not my problem. It definitely has a wider range of applications than you give it there.
Alas, I am not going to do your work for you by analysing it in detail.
Edit: Two more things
3) Ignition Aura deals [Percentage] x [Level of Thermal Control] in damage. Going from 10% to 20% effectively doubles that.
4) Rukia originally wanted to place the Item at almost twice its current price. Make of that what you want.
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Ignition Aura is the (partially) projectile annihilating stuff. at least that's how it works in my mind with the 15% damage reduction.
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And my vote is now changed.
And my vote is now changed.
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anti air artilleries.
going anywhere that leaves us open to their targeting system will kill us.
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Yeah, that's good enough of a reason for me, I'm going to go change my vote now.
Aspiring Dragon
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I can imagine how Magic Surge can get overpowered fairly quickly. At a glance it seems like a great technique for a desperate/last defense or attack. And in fights where Cerys has back up to defend her and take the attention away from her while she builds up the Surge. If I'm not getting the mechanics wrong.
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Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
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I don't particularly care as long as we get into the middle of enemy forces, but I'm still feeling a little peeved at Karen.
I don't particularly care as long as we get into the middle of enemy forces, but I'm still feeling a little peeved at Karen.
menosay
Quietly laughing at nothing in particular.
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-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
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...guys, I do believe you should give some instructions to Cerys. I will smack Rukia for trying to make her do something obviously stupid, but there are a lot of things Cerys might not think about. This is, by Gaia's words, "the thick of the fighting". I doubt you will get away with just pointing her at a target and saying to wreck it.
...oh well
[X] Go Right
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
No automatic targeting can get Cerys if she is hidden in an inferno. If they target her with magic, we never had a chance in the first place. Hiding or being stealthy was out the moment we were dropped in, so going loud is not going to change much.
...oh well
[X] Go Right
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
No automatic targeting can get Cerys if she is hidden in an inferno. If they target her with magic, we never had a chance in the first place. Hiding or being stealthy was out the moment we were dropped in, so going loud is not going to change much.
Spectral Waltz
Scatterbrained Writer
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Fair enough, I can't think of anything to add, so I'll roll with that for the moment.
[X] Go Right
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
[X] Go Right
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
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Addendum to this: There is a manual on the front page, at the bottom of the character sheet, that explains how these work.
Otherwise, if you don't understand, please ask.
The Manual
- Spending XP
- Stats
- Spells
- Abilities
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[X] Go Right
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
......to easy to forget that the manual contains things other than basic, generic mechanics. Stuff about the system itself, not any particular characters.
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[X] Go Right
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
-[X] Keep the flames up in your whole reach and don't stop them from spreading outward; always stay under cover of your fire and keep moving
--[X] Fly either at ground level or higher, depending on how high you can get the fire
--[X] Ask Omega to eat anything incoming except your fire. You need that.
-[X] Prepare Thermal Spears during idle time and rain down volleys on armoured or protected units coming close to your inferno
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