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[Mafia] A Murder of Crows

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As in, started with none, stole one, and then had it stolen.

Jesus this is complicated
 
Can people stop claiming they stole from someone that stole? At least give the Magpie something to think about.
 
So from what I'm gathering, we have a chain as follows

Terrabrand (Original Holder) > -Rosen > Shadell > 1KBestK

This leaves me with:

Terrabrand - Jackdaw/Raven
Shadell - Jackdaw/Raven/Magpie
1KBestK - Raven/Magpie

These three are all not Crows, given this chain of events. Looking at the Wiadi chain, there are multiple possibilities, actually. We could have:

? (Original Holder) > Wiadi > Terrabrand > ?

Leaving me with:

Wiadi - Crow/Jackdaw

IF Terrabrand is a Jackdaw, then Wiadi is a Crow.
IF Terrabrand is a Raven, Wiadi is a Jackdaw.

Given that Terra has been adamant about getting a Raven reveal for some time now my solve on these two slots is as follows:

Terrabrand - Jackdaw
Wiadi - Crow

This leaves the possibilities for Shadell and 1KBestK the same. I think 1K is mechanically our best target Today, barring a claim from someone that they stole from 1K (if you did, then please come forward because that is rather important).
 
-Rosen said:
So from what I'm gathering, we have a chain as follows

Terrabrand (Original Holder) > -Rosen > Shadell > 1KBestK

This leaves me with:

Terrabrand - Jackdaw/Raven
Shadell - Jackdaw/Raven/Magpie
1KBestK - Raven/Magpie

These three are all not Crows, given this chain of events. Looking at the Wiadi chain, there are multiple possibilities, actually. We could have:

? (Original Holder) > Wiadi > Terrabrand > ?

Leaving me with:

Wiadi - Crow/Jackdaw

IF Terrabrand is a Jackdaw, then Wiadi is a Crow.
IF Terrabrand is a Raven, Wiadi is a Jackdaw.

Given that Terra has been adamant about getting a Raven reveal for some time now my solve on these two slots is as follows:

Terrabrand - Jackdaw
Wiadi - Crow

This leaves the possibilities for Shadell and 1KBestK the same. I think 1K is mechanically our best target Today, barring a claim from someone that they stole from 1K (if you did, then please come forward because that is rather important).
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Fam I am like 90% sure you've got something wrong jackdaws steal last.

If I am a jackdaw wiadi can be literally anything and also I am definitely lying about being out of shinies or about stealing from him, or both. Think this through.
 
I'm not following Rosen's logic on, like, any of this.

Also, for the record, my assumption right now is that the magpie is playing a pretty low-impact game and trying to not make too many waves. But that covers so much of the playerlist that it isn't particularly helpful.
 
Okay the OP is actually incredibly fucking confusing looking it over again.

I am back to being as lost as I was D1.
 
Like, I'm gonna hardclaim crow here. I am just scratching my head at this because the explanation didn't actually explain anything. I'm not a magpie or a raven.
 
I need an order for Day steals and Night steals please. I need to wrap my head around all of this before I have an aneurysm.
 
Like anyone from the middle of the steal chain is defnitely not a jackdaw unless the next down is a jackdaw or they are lying about being out of shinies.

-Rosen said:
I need an order for Day steals and Night steals please. I need to wrap my head around all of this before I have an aneurysm.
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Day; jackdaw>crow>raven>magpie

Night: magpie>crow>raven>jackdaw.

Mystery internal resolution if same species.
 
So Base is confirmed to not be a magpie I think, because I stole before her. She can be anything else, although she'd need to win the coin flip if she's a crow.
 
-Rosen said:
I need an order for Day steals and Night steals please. I need to wrap my head around all of this before I have an aneurysm.
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DAY STEALS:
1. If a shiny lynch has a Jackdaw on it they steal they steal 1 shiny each.
2. If there are more shiny then Jackdaws it goes to CROWS, then RAVENS, then MAGPIE.

NIGHT STEALS:
1. Magpie steals from 2 people.
2. Ravens steal
3. Crows steal
4. Jackdaws steal.

Ties are determined in both cases by an internal unknown order.
 
1KBestK said:
So Base is confirmed to not be a magpie I think, because I stole before her. She can be anything else, although she'd need to win the coin flip if she's a crow.
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Same logic means meso can't be magpie because he's claimed a whiff on me.

I'm like only 90% sure this logic actually holds up, but the two have the same alibi.

I know barring a counterclaim that @-Rosen is not the magpie because he has claimed the theft of my own ill gotten gains, though from an external perspective I can be lying about not starting with a shiny and therefore -rosen is not from a neutral perspective cleared. I think. I might be missing a mechanical clear.

No wait magpie -rosen requires he's either taking credit for a steal he did not make (if someone else picked a shiny out of my clutches pls counterclaim but I dun believe that scenario) or else both I and... Broken base? Shadell? Point is it requires multiple lies for -rosen to be magpie.
 
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