La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)

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Horses are concentrated balls of muscle and death lol. Very stronk, will be nice to have in chasing down enemies.
Must have crit failed two rolls there.
What two rolls? This is merely what happens when you tempt fate bruh. Napoleon has his own... issues.
 
Speaking of that it occurs to me that it's probably very bad strategically to be known as a 'butcher', because wasting time rounding up fleeing enemies (if you care about the peasants, which you should since they feed you) when you could capture groups of them for surrender which is much more time efficient.

Simply having the cavalry with a megaphone (if they already exist) screaming at a rout 'surrender' in german, might be enough to speed things up and get a good rep (and more surrendering enemies).

And captured stuff.
 
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Voting's open! Reminder that you can add a little blurb about the person doing an action, like a general goal if you so wish.

Like:
[] best plan
-[] Thérèse: The Cavalry. Charge right into the middle where Brunswick is and take him out.

Enjoy the holidays, if that's what's going on for you!
 
[X] Plan Hammer and Anvil
-[X] Defense: You will make the enemy bleed for every inch, being flexible in movement, but never wavering in the fact that you will make them bleed, and they will either die or retreat.
-[X] Therese: The North Bridge
-[X] Chamans: The Flanking Cavalry
--[X] 3k
---[X] Move to the forest north of the city
-[X] de Lisle: The Artillery
-[X] Severin: The South Bridge
-[X] de Beauharnais: The Reserve Cavalry
--[X] 1k

[X]The Harbingers
 
[X] Plan Hammer and Anvil
-[X] Defense: You will make the enemy bleed for every inch, being flexible in movement, but never wavering in the fact that you will make them bleed, and they will either die or retreat.
-[X] Therese: The North Bridge
-[X] Chamans: The Flanking Cavalry
--[X] 3k
---[X] Move to the forest north of the city
-[X] de Lisle: The Artillery
-[X] Severin: The South Bridge
-[X] de Beauharnais: The Reserve Cavalry
--[X] 1k

[X]The Harbingers
 
[X] Plan Wrong Bridge
-[X] Disrupt: You will use your cavalry to disrupt the enemy, their lack of cavalry is going to be a clear detriment to their long term success, and as long as you have that advantage, you will raise hell.
-[X] Thérèse: The North Bridge: Hold the line for as long as is tenable before falling back to prepared positions, baiting the enemy cavalry to attack.
-[X] Severin: The South Bridge: Defense in depth, do not allow the enemy to cross the bridge.
-[X] Chamans: The Cavalry: Utilizing local terrain to obscure size of force, the Cavalry will attempt to destroy the opposing cavalry and engage targets of opportunity.
-[X] de Lisle: The Artillery. With the bridges and areas beyond and before them presighted, the Artillery will prioritize counter-battery fire and large force concentrations.
--[X] Set up a smaller battery in the hills to the North to both serve as enemy cavalry bait and provide closer support to the local infantry.
-[X] de Beauharnais: The City: Coordinate local forces and ensure good order, the plan is useless if the city falls.

[X] The Harbingers

Is this plan acceptable? The idea is to encourage the opposing force to hit the North Bridge instead of the South Bridge, baiting the enemy cavalry, and once they've been eliminated, to hit targets of opportunity and hopefully turn the fight around on them.
 
Fuchs's Character Sheet (Foxwood)
[X] Plan Wrong Bridge
-[X] Disrupt: You will use your cavalry to disrupt the enemy, their lack of cavalry is going to be a clear detriment to their long term success, and as long as you have that advantage, you will raise hell.
-[X] Thérèse: The North Bridge: Hold the line for as long as is tenable before falling back to prepared positions, baiting the enemy cavalry to attack.
-[X] Severin: The South Bridge: Defense in depth, do not allow the enemy to cross the bridge.
-[X] Chamans: The Cavalry: Utilizing local terrain to obscure size of force, the Cavalry will attempt to destroy the opposing cavalry and engage targets of opportunity.
-[X] de Lisle: The Artillery. With the bridges and areas beyond and before them presighted, the Artillery will prioritize counter-battery fire and large force concentrations.
--[X] Set up a smaller battery in the hills to the North to both serve as enemy cavalry bait and provide closer support to the local infantry.
-[X] de Beauharnais: The City: Coordinate local forces and ensure good order, the plan is useless if the city falls.

Hell yeah, br0ther. I was getting nervous about the city, glad someone else shares my thought-process on the matter.

Also, I did another thing!

It's Fuchs's character sheet. I decided to do it for fun, especially considering I'm basically writing him as the protagonist in a negaverse of this quest. :p I'd love some feedback, even if it is ultimately for show. I'm not used to making character sheets in quests, I usually let the number-crunchers and min-max experts have at it.

He's a bit young to be a Major, by our standards. However, I found an account of a fella in the British army in the mid-18th century who became an Ensign at 13 (even though commissions were supposed to be forbidden for those under 16) and became a Lieutenant Colonel of the 33rd Regiment of Foot at the age of 20. Seven years to lead a regiment? Ol' Rudi's a little over halfway there, at the rank of Major.

Rudolf considers Brunswick an enemy because he perceived the latter's retreat as abandoning his guys after they charged Thérèse's position. Rudolf wouldn't actively hinder Brunswick, but don't be surprised if he demands a duel when he is of an equal rank, if he thinks it won't hinder the Prussian war effort.

I operated off of the initial ten-point dispersion present in the courtroom scene. Tbh, I'm... Fairly certain I got it wrong. That Artillery Command skill is a big oof, chief. Ultimately, I'm just a bit iffy about my point-dispersion, I have a feeling that some stats/skills are higher or lower than they should be. I'm also trying to avoid making ol' Rudi too edgy (despite my best efforts, the guy's become a yandere. :rofl:), but I thought his Combat skill level and the Blooded trait was appropriate considering how many guys he ended up going toe-to-toe with and winning against in Valmy.
 
[X] Plan Wrong Bridge
-[X] Disrupt: You will use your cavalry to disrupt the enemy, their lack of cavalry is going to be a clear detriment to their long term success, and as long as you have that advantage, you will raise hell.
-[X] Thérèse: The North Bridge: Hold the line for as long as is tenable before falling back to prepared positions, baiting the enemy cavalry to attack.
-[X] Severin: The South Bridge: Defense in depth, do not allow the enemy to cross the bridge.
-[X] Chamans: The Cavalry: Utilizing local terrain to obscure size of force, the Cavalry will attempt to destroy the opposing cavalry and engage targets of opportunity.
-[X] de Lisle: The Artillery. With the bridges and areas beyond and before them presighted, the Artillery will prioritize counter-battery fire and large force concentrations.
--[X] Set up a smaller battery in the hills to the North to both serve as enemy cavalry bait and provide closer support to the local infantry.
-[X] de Beauharnais: The City: Coordinate local forces and ensure good order, the plan is useless if the city falls.

[X] The Harbingers

Is this plan acceptable? The idea is to encourage the opposing force to hit the North Bridge instead of the South Bridge, baiting the enemy cavalry, and once they've been eliminated, to hit targets of opportunity and hopefully turn the fight around on them.
Is acceptable! Loving the details!
Oh for Fuchs's sake :V
The negaverse quest would likely be In the Shadow of Greatness (No SV, you are a Prussian officer in the Napoleonic Wars!)

+20, and Fuchs looks pretty tough...
Pfft, lol nvm.
Artillery Command: 1
"I want a breach in those walls. Then, uh… Fire at targets of opportunity at your discretion."
Sounds like he knows that cannons shoot things, which is beyond the level a 1 would allow :V
 
Really min-maxing there Nega-SV

Hey, not everyone can be like the Auclairs. Give average height men in 1700 a chance!
Ah yes. Fuchs:
The words of Aristotle fall from your lips
Also Fuchs:
"IT'S A BLEEDING DOOR, YOU GO THROUGH IT!"
It'll be fun when/if Fuchs meets his battlefield crush here! By crush I mean he wants to crush her, of course.
I'll only allow the 25 in Combat since he's basically never heard of horses and cannons before, and is a mediocre infantry officer at best. This is the kind of guy who fixes his enemy's bayonets into their bellies.
After all, the reroll is to basically make it so that people who are really good are much less likely to fail, and have more consistent results. Not for fishing for crits like advantage does. I might introduce advantage rolls in some form or fashion if it comes up...
 
Really min-maxing there Nega-SV

Relatively poorly, from the looks of it. :lol:

he's basically never heard of horses and cannons before, and is a mediocre infantry officer at best.

I, uh... May have forgotten that "roughly ten" doesn't mean "average." :p

Took me about fifteen minutes of staring and unwinding my mental gymnastics to realize. At least he has room to improve? Being an observer, he can sit back and, well, observe other officers. Incidentally, this totally justifies Brunswick's decision on promoting him, but then shuffling him off to a relatively command/combat-light posting.
 
Took me about fifteen minutes of staring and unwinding my mental gymnastics to realize. At least he has room to improve? Being an observer, he can sit back and, well, observe other officers. Incidentally, this totally justifies Brunswick's decision on promoting him, but then shuffling him off to a relatively command/combat-light posting.
Yeah, he's more like one of those champions from Romance of the Three Kingdoms than an actual foot troop at this point. Would have been more fitting to make him a cavalry leader who really got enamored with winged hussars :p
 
Yeah, he's more like one of those champions from Romance of the Three Kingdoms than an actual foot troop at this point. Would have been more fitting to make him a cavalry leader who really got enamored with winged hussars :p

Omg. "Sun Jian, don't, they're luring you into a fire-ambush/going to drop the bridge behind you! Oh, no, he has air pods in, he can't hear us!" On a serious note, I intended on having him be the guy who leads by example and inspiration, not necessarily be a scalp-hunter like, say, Lu Bu. ("DO NOT PURSUE-!")

Just wait 'till you see my Pole... Ish guy. That dude loves horses, Jesus, and Napoleon. Or he will when the Duchy of Warsaw is created.
 
Omg. "Sun Jian, don't, they're luring you into a fire-ambush/going to drop the bridge behind you! Oh, no, he has air pods in, he can't hear us!" On a serious note, I intended on having him be the guy who leads by example and inspiration, not necessarily be a scalp-hunter like, say, Lu Bu. ("DO NOT PURSUE-!")
"Do not pursue Lu Bu."
VS
"Do not pursue, Lu Bu."
Just wait 'till you see my Pole... Ish guy. That dude loves horses, Jesus, and Napoleon. Or he will when the Duchy of Warsaw is created.
Winged Hussars intensifies
 
Hey, do you guys think that Napoleon's stats are too high during this period of his life? Right now, he's just starting off, he hasn't really gotten into any of the battles that would hone his military abilities, rather odd for someone who hasn't engaged in any battles to be the match of Frederick the Great. Oh, and I think that you should improve Therese's reputation to around 10 or so and lower Napoleon's, Therese right now is a little icon for France while Napoleon is just an artilley officer, though maybe his reputation could be a justified 5 since he managed to uncover a conspiracy in his home island.
 
Didn't Napoleon defeat 3 armies back to back pingpoing between them during the Italian campaign*? Dude was always a general with the luck and deciveness of the devil, if i don't wanna say 'genius' because i don't believe in 'genius'.

Anyway I don't like him too much and i abhor the thread idea to husbando him, but he was tremendously competent even while young, though probably not 'best ever, multiple rerolls'.

*edit: it was 3 years later, but he's already in charge of artillery and wins 2 battles with the general following his plan (Napoleon made 'friends' with the political officers).

Anyway, the point stands, Napoleon was already doing 'genius' tier generaling just 3 short years from now, it's probably immaterial if his stats are slightly inflated now.

Besides, it's right in the first post that Therese will never supplant him or take his job. It's a marshal of france quest, not a first citizen quest. She's more likely to compete with all of the other marshals, though i imagine that Therese being a fille will give some additional awkward or spice depending on the rival.
 
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Hey, do you guys think that Napoleon's stats are too high during this period of his life?
Napoleon is not too high at least in our opinion. He's just really lucky, and his three rerolls are just there to add to his near-supernatural luck.
Oh, and I think that you should improve Therese's reputation to around 10 or so and lower Napoleon's
Reputation Growth is... harder to gain then you think. You need friends, continually succeed, and have time pass so that it may grow naturally and allow it to spin out of control.

barely a year has passed since this quest began. Give it time.
Therese right now is a little icon for France while Napoleon is just an artilley officer, though maybe his reputation could be a justified 5 since he managed to uncover a conspiracy in his home island.
While you are correct, Valmy was still only a small battle. And being put on trial afterward didn't help. We also have the benefit of hindsight on our side, to discover just how important Valmy was for the History of France.

But right now, we are making the history of France.
Anyway I don't like him too much and i abhor the thread idea to husbando him, but he was tremendously competent even while young, though probably not 'best ever, multiple rerolls'.
Napoleon is not in his prime yet.

Think of how scary he is when he is in his prime.
2. probably going to cause Therese to be influential enough to replace Josepine in neopotism and have her be 'deciding' on appointing Napoleon (someone has to).
Or Napoleon continues to rise through the ranks under his own merit because he keeps being a badass who doesn't need nepotism to get his command in Italy.
Distasteful but useful i guess. Until misogynist NappyB shows his true face when the vote for marriage proposal sinks like a stone. Aha, who am i kidding
What makes you think Napoleon, a man who finds us interesting (Look at the previous update where we met him)... What makes you think his view on women hasn't changed a little bit due to our actions.
 
Meh i deleted that part before i saw your post. It wasn't relevant.

As to why i'm pessimistic about Nappy Shipping it's a combination of things.

1. The appointment... it's the 'simple' solution, Napoleon was ushered in by Neopotism, the ship derails the Neopotism, the Ship replaces the neopotism. However, Napoleon wasn't a innocent in the game of political jockeying so maybe he'll be able to carry his own weight in this dirty pool.
2. He's going to be our superior. Jelousy among the marshals galore, if we do well or bad, accusations of favoritism, etc.
3. I really don't want Therese pregnant while the wars occur. There is about a 3 years interval between the first and second coalition that can be used as a timeskip thou, if the thread 'absolutely must'.
 
1. The appointment... it's the 'simple' solution, Napoleon was ushered in by Neopotism, the ship derails the Neopotism, the Ship replaces the neopotism. However, Napoleon wasn't a innocent in the game of political jockeying so maybe he'll be able to carry his own weight in this dirty pool.
2. He's going to be our superior. Jelousy among the marshals galore, if we do well or bad, accusations of favoritism, etc.
3. I really don't want Therese pregnant while the wars occur. There is about a 3 years interval between the first and second coalition that can be used as a timeskip thou, if the thread 'absolutely must'.
With the way Napoleon is rolling, he might not need us pulling the strings to get his promotion.

2. While the Marshals may be jealous of us for being a woman and Nappy's wife, if we have a proven battle reputation (which we are in the process of gaining), we can be seen as "Oh, she pretty good" and swallow their pride, especially if we saved a few of them in their youth.

3. I think we'll be a little to busy to be getting busy in the bedchamber, unless of course, Napoleon reassigns us to a more... safer position while he runs off to conquer Europe.

And I remember someone saying that we will not be raising our children because our duties may pull us away, and maybe raised by nannies... which may be true, but also we have a brother who is among the true genius commanders of France (in terms of intelligence). Who can be a decent, if not the perfect chief of staff.

Or we just, take the kids with us on campaign (if we're desperate or crazy) or leave them with relatives (Well Napoleon's relatives but they're the in-laws).
 
Napoleon's stats are too high during this period of his life?
Most likely, but
1. I'm not keeping track of each individual character's stat growth unless it's really important.
2. The stats are to make sure he can likely get to roughly his historical point, since this is a Napoleonic Era quest, can't have that without our railroaded anime protagonist (likely in this case not preventing him from rolling double or crit fails)
Therese's reputation
My interpretation of the events at Valmy are that mostly the North and the government in Paris (and by extension, whoever they tell through rumors, i.e. some citizens of Paris) know about the importance of winning the battle, and so the higher ups (i.e. Rob) might have been inspired to make her out to be a symbol or something. Who knows? You certainly don't have the political clout to know this :V
That's an option, everyone's got their own preferences for waifus and husbandos, but this is still 1700/1800s France, when our modern views of society aren't the same as their modern views of society.
It's a marshal of france quest, not a first citizen quest.
You'd be right, since to gain the title of marshal, the Empire or monarchy would need to be reestablished. The title was considered too tied to the old establishment for the Republic's tastes.

Also, you could have Thérèse be gripped in religious fervor but instead of a morale boost from the Words of God, you get a massive ideological spread bonus for Liberty. Thérèse then leads a continental revolution against the tyrants of the old world and those who threaten freedom with their powers, washing the world into a clean slate for new ideas to rise, for there can be no peace without war.

...

I guess you'd get that state of mind if Republican Sentiment = 100 and Monarchist Sentiment = -100 :V
You mean nepotism? What nepotism? none of that here...
Or we just, take the kids with us on campaign
"Karen Thérèse took the fucking kids!"
 
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