La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)

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a simple pilgrim said:
Well Mr. Lelouch, I understand the problems you have with it, but that is the actual 13th amendment. It's not an invention of the quest lol, that's what actually occurred. So unless there's a particular reason the US would ban prison work in this timeline but not ours, that's how it would go.
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I'm well aware its the actual 13th Amendment, but things have already gone off the rails enough in the quest's America that I can at least wish that there was a difference.
 
a simple pilgrim said:
Well Mr. Lelouch, I understand the problems you have with it, but that is the actual 13th amendment. It's not an invention of the quest lol, that's what actually occurred. So unless there's a particular reason the US would ban prison work in this timeline but not ours, that's how it would go.

I am amazed with crazy some of the exploding rolls are. Brian and Napoleon becoming Consuls is just right, and who knows, perhaps after our victorious return from the east, we will be able to win an election ourselves?

I do feel bad for our brother though. Poor guy got married, then bought an estate to live in peace with his new, pregnant, wife. Instead he is dragged right back to Paris. I hope his marriage does not suffer too much from the added strain. He might get stressed like we did as well.

We must be sure to be as successful as possible to ensure that our brother has fewer headaches to worry about.

I would like to have some turns of peace, and our brother becoming first consul is a good sign for that. He isn't that bloodthirsty or expansionist, but not a pacifist either. It would be nice to have some character dedicated turns after the expedition, just in time for another giant coalition war in 1798 or something.

Though it does feel a bit odd at this point, since France has really been *TOO* successful, and our enemies *TOO* incompetent. I don't think the rolls are being made up, but they are just so consistently one-sided.

Part of the fun of a Revolutionary/Napoleanic quest is the sense of France vs the world! If the world is too incompetent to put up a good fight then it loses that. Some of the best parts of the story was when the war raged in the Vendee, Austria invaded from the south, and the army of the north was in full retreat. Things felt urgent, and being the firefighter of France felt critical. Egypt doesn't have that same urgency, and it probably won't, unless things get dire, and the urgent situation is to prevent 100k French soldiers from dying overseas, which would be fun.

I want 25 years of close fought, difficult wars! Time to be a real Marshall, and yet things haven't been that hardcore as of yet, not since the fire-fighting incident at least.

Also I really want to see Therese's reaction to the political shenanigans back home. Going from poor surveyor, to "brother of first consul, betrothed to second, and commanding the largest army in France" is quite the step up.
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Here's the thing:

The UK just spent the last decade and a half seeing thinngs go down a drain. First the Colonies rebel, throwing them into a war that turns bloody, only for it to escalate into a war with the Spanish, Dutch, and French. There was a real risk of England being invaded.

Then the French have a revolution. Everyone gets into a massive war with France. France proceeds to win said war.

Worse, the UK loses.

It has been forced to hand over an massive sum of money after already having spent massive amounts of money in several wars to begin with over the last half century. It is forced to hand over part of the royal navy to the French.

The government has reached an all time low in popularity. The British people are likely screaming for blood. Twice in 2 decades have the French humiliated the British. They will demand something be done.

I do not think it is going to be a good time to be Irish, Catholic, or Jewish right now in the UK. I forsee the rise of nationalistic demagogues in UK politics, some of which will try and launch pograms on "disloyal" minorities.
 
Pawn Lelouch said:
I'm well aware its the actual 13th Amendment, but things have already gone off the rails enough in the quest's America that I can at least wish that there was a difference.
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Cyber actually wanted to do an even more radical 13th amendment, but then he said invade Florida, for the Florida man memes.
Daedwartin said:
Here's the thing:

The UK just spent the last decade and a half seeing thinngs go down a drain. First the Colonies rebel, throwing them into a war that turns bloody, only for it to escalate into a war with the Spanish, Dutch, and French. There was a real risk of England being invaded.

Then the French have a revolution. Everyone gets into a massive war with France. France proceeds to win said war.

Worse, the UK loses.

It has been forced to hand over an massive sum of money after already having spent massive amounts of money in several wars to begin with over the last half century. It is forced to hand over part of the royal navy to the French.

The government has reached an all time low in popularity. The British people are likely screaming for blood. Twice in 2 decades have the French humiliated the British. They will demand something be done.

I do not think it is going to be a good time to be Irish, Catholic, or Jewish right now in the UK. I forsee the rise of nationalistic demagogues in UK politics, some of which will try and launch pograms on "disloyal" minorities.
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Well... We won't be going that far....

Yet.

We have it in our toolbox to start another potential Cromwell like Irish Genocide, but they haven't reached that point yet.

The key word is yet.
 
I think one thing that kinds of annoys me is that everyone who was prominent IOTL seems obligated to be prominent in this one. It would be nice to pull someone more obscure than Ney or Jackson.
 
SzechuanSauce said:
I think one thing that kinds of annoys me is that everyone who was prominent IOTL seems obligated to be prominent in this one. It would be nice to pull someone more obscure than Ney or Jackson.
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You can blame it a little bit on me. :( :(

Cyber wanted Arthur St. Clair to invade Florida, but I wanted Jackson... for the memes.

As For Ney... There are no excuses.
 
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Magoose said:
You can blame it a little bit on me. :( :(

Cyber wanted Arthur St. Clair to invade Florida, but I wanted Jackson... for the memes.
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One could say the one about Jackson is in poor taste considering his attitude towards them IOTL. Not too sure someone who was famous for expelling Native Americans and owning more than a 100 slaves is an appropriate figure for this.
 
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SzechuanSauce said:
One could say the one about Jackson is in poor taste considering his attitude towards them IOTL. Not too sure someone who was famous for expelling Native Americans and owning more than a 100 slaves is an appropriate figure for this.
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Same could be said about Washington. cause I know quite a few titles that Washington had. and he owned more slaves then Jackson.

One of them being Burner of Villages. And during his presidency, he kicked the Mohawks and several other tribes out of new york, not counting all the "Indian Wars" that were waged during his presidency in the Ohio Valley

Now Jackson did displace millions of native Americans to Oklahoma and forced them onto the brink of genocide... yet that has not happened here. And it may never happen here either.

This world has changed, to where Washington himself has ended slavery, is far kinder to Native Americans, and expand his nation more then IOTL, and is far more humanistic in its approach, something we've talked about more times then I care to admit.

So why can't a young 20 something Jackson lead a force of freed slaves, Indians, and frontiersmen to take over Florida?
 
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The US are in such a speed run mode that I expect them to invade the Middle East by the early 1800s.

And if the Brits keep rolling like they do, then Westminster debates will soon be conducted in Gaelic.
 
inirlan said:
The US are in such a speed run mode that I expect them to invade the Middle East by the early 1800s.
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Bah, more like they'll successfully invade Canada, invent the machine gun, telephone and steamship... And then wank their way across North America even harder then we did in OTL.
inirlan said:
And if the Brits keep rolling like they do, then Westminster debates will soon be conducted in Gaelic.
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Or the Irish will get Cromwelled again.
 
Oh and We will say this:

Do you belive we are not prepared for more crazy shit to occur.

Cause we have made... many plans for things to go wrong if they go wrong.

Edit: Rather... When.
 
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Magoose said:
The problem is... Well when you compare us to say... @Telamon who inspired us to write this...and @PoptartProdigy and @torroar

We're crap compared to them. And we are trying to be at that level... or surpass it. And that is very... difficult.
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I appreciate your kind words. While this quest might not be to my particular interests in subject, a cursory look shows that this quest is full of passion and fine enough writing, I think. I hope that it continues that way, and that you do get the joy you deserve for writing and creating as you have. Be well, yeah?
 
John_Elysium said:
America continues the greatest (and first!) speedrun of all time. Next thing we'll hear is that they somehow researched time travel and managed to win WW2.
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That's like 10 nat 100s in a row.

Edit: Now that I've said it, the possibility of it occurring has increased subsantially.
 
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LordEdric said:
More like it will never make it to WWII and they will win WWI while still being in the manifest destiny mode
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American Empire is so last year.

We've decided that the Golden Ending for America is... living up to the standards we've always lacked, but continued to strive for anyway.

Is it wrong that I don't want to see that happen because it would be far too cliche?
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America! F*CK YEAH!
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America: Oh boy, here I go killing again!
 
SO Uh Cyber came up with something interesting.

During the campaign, we will get some small glimpses on France through... The Life of Brian.

But we haven't decided if we will allow you to affect government policy... or just allow you to know about the state of the Homefront.
 
I'm betting that as soon as Brian is Consul, he will send a fast ship after us with orders to come back home.

Now, how long it will take for these orders to catch up with us and where we will be by then is another question (with the RN not actively hunting for us, we can move quite fast, using sea based logistics).
 
I leave this thread for a couple months and come back to this WHAT IS GOING ON ANYMORE?! Like seriously the New World has gone freaking nuts, curb stomped Spain and is currently speed running each other to become the bastions of freedom and equality in the world. Like what is even happening anymore? And of course our brother just became the head of government cause why not and we are about to launch a invasion of Sicily then Egypt and beyond and probably come back to Napoleon having conquered Spain and inviting us to be Queen/Gneralisimo while Brian rules France and Robspier has somehow tried to make toast in a tub. And America and Haiti continuing their Bi polar conquests/Victoria campaigns in the New World. Also how many nat 1s can GB have before it implodes into its constituent parts, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, etc.

also Washington is already seen as a Jesus figure by many Americans today but I need to see a history book from this timeline cause he just speed ran the first half of America's life long accomplishments in his first presidency. WTF I just....I can't anymore
 
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inbred martian said:
also Washington is already seen as a Jesus figure by many Americans today but I need to see a history book from this timeline cause he just speed ran the first half of America's life long accomplishments in his first presidency. WTF I just....I can't anymore
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Actually he end his second term around the start of the game. This is him being the American Cincinnatus, getting called up from his farm (neglecting to mention that it's a massive estate) to deal with problems; like smashing the radical south because they killed John Adams.

I think Alexander Hamilton is the current President.
 
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