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Why should Brian be replaced? He's like the only person that can properly ride herd on Napoleon.
La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)
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Because he doesn't want the position and we can do that too.
And if we end up marrying it would be a good idea to start challenging and reigning in his ego ourselves.
....Well that certainly just happened.
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peacewe -> peace we
Meant to be dashes like the rest I assume.
I'm of two minds about this. Its very good to get it far earlier than occurred in real life. But at the same time its still shit since it enshrines slavery in at least one form rather than fully removing it.
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What caused the incident between Spain and America?
I swear, Britain's dice are cursed.
Magoose
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Dammit.
Dammit!
Well, it's better than Chattal Slavery still existing in the Union!
To make a long story short...
It was all Jacksons fault.
The Spanish however... failed at every possible avenue to deal with it.
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Can we though? And more importantly: why would Therese, in character, want to become First Consul?
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Why would we? Far less stressful to let him handle the mess of it.
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After we return from egypt and to be equal with our future husband,but yes that depends on how the consulate will develop.
I also think it would be cool.
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I fear that having Robespierre as the Third Consul is going to cause problems... I very much doubt we have the ability to do anything regarding his appointment, but I will not deny that I would very much would prefer someone else that isn't part of the military to be the Civilian\Third Consul, not someone who might still have a negative opinion of the other two consuls, who were generals who couped him and stopped him from enacting his vision of France.
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Well there us is one good thing about Robe being the third consul...
The Republic will survive at least a few more years, with him trying to keep as much of democratic ideas as possible, and if Napoleon becomes an empire... he might have a civil war on his hands.
Or make concessions.
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I mean, a convict is already stripped of nearly all property (at least for a time), relocated to a holding facility not of their choosing, and met with force if they attempt to leave it. I don't think that having them do labor is specially wrong given that all the above is accepted practice for those that broke the law.
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US always wanted FL. Why, as a current FL resident, is beyond me. Odds are Jackson did this a bit earlier then OTL.
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Crept that this time: Jackson is leading his own band of misfits to take it.
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Did the US gov even know about it or did they wake up to getting all of Louisiana
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They just woke up but we're not angry about it.
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I mean the country is double the size and now has all that farmland they can dole out to the now former slaves. It will make things a lot more stable in the US now that's for sure
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I mean the issue there is that they are not getting form of money for doing so, often doing tedious or backbreaking labor for pennies which isn't right, regardless of what someone is in prison for.
But that isn't my main concern, my fundamental issue is that the bit about slavery directly informs how they can be and are treated in prisons.
People are treated poorly with the intent of the prison sentence to be about punishment rather than reform, while being functionally outcast from society after that so they cannot get easy access to jobs. Meaning they are often forced into crime as a result to try and have any form of income so they can eat and make any other necessary payments. It encourages the formation of for profit prisons and consequently, judges being paid to give people harsher sentences so that they can make more money.
Its just ultimately that these sorts of exceptions encourage extremely negative behaviors by giving people a clear idea of what can be exploited and how.
Simple: Flordia is at the end a region that has the US as the only border there while
being a strategically important location for US trade.
Remember: Florida existing means ships have to go around it to get to the Mississippi. The region being in spanish hands basically means the spanish get a base of operations to interfere with any of that trade.
If the US has it, it means that its US ships messing around from Floridian ports.
Well Mr. Lelouch, I understand the problems you have with it, but that is the actual 13th amendment. It's not an invention of the quest lol, that's what actually occurred. So unless there's a particular reason the US would ban prison work in this timeline but not ours, that's how it would go.
I am amazed with crazy some of the exploding rolls are. Brian and Napoleon becoming Consuls is just right, and who knows, perhaps after our victorious return from the east, we will be able to win an election ourselves?
I do feel bad for our brother though. Poor guy got married, then bought an estate to live in peace with his new, pregnant, wife. Instead he is dragged right back to Paris. I hope his marriage does not suffer too much from the added strain. He might get stressed like we did as well.
We must be sure to be as successful as possible to ensure that our brother has fewer headaches to worry about.
I would like to have some turns of peace, and our brother becoming first consul is a good sign for that. He isn't that bloodthirsty or expansionist, but not a pacifist either. It would be nice to have some character dedicated turns after the expedition, just in time for another giant coalition war in 1798 or something.
Though it does feel a bit odd at this point, since France has really been *TOO* successful, and our enemies *TOO* incompetent. I don't think the rolls are being made up, but they are just so consistently one-sided.
Part of the fun of a Revolutionary/Napoleanic quest is the sense of France vs the world! If the world is too incompetent to put up a good fight then it loses that. Some of the best parts of the story was when the war raged in the Vendee, Austria invaded from the south, and the army of the north was in full retreat. Things felt urgent, and being the firefighter of France felt critical. Egypt doesn't have that same urgency, and it probably won't, unless things get dire, and the urgent situation is to prevent 100k French soldiers from dying overseas, which would be fun.
I want 25 years of close fought, difficult wars! Time to be a real Marshall, and yet things haven't been that hardcore as of yet, not since the fire-fighting incident at least.
Also I really want to see Therese's reaction to the political shenanigans back home. Going from poor surveyor, to "brother of first consul, betrothed to second, and commanding the largest army in France" is quite the step up.
I am amazed with crazy some of the exploding rolls are. Brian and Napoleon becoming Consuls is just right, and who knows, perhaps after our victorious return from the east, we will be able to win an election ourselves?
I do feel bad for our brother though. Poor guy got married, then bought an estate to live in peace with his new, pregnant, wife. Instead he is dragged right back to Paris. I hope his marriage does not suffer too much from the added strain. He might get stressed like we did as well.
We must be sure to be as successful as possible to ensure that our brother has fewer headaches to worry about.
I would like to have some turns of peace, and our brother becoming first consul is a good sign for that. He isn't that bloodthirsty or expansionist, but not a pacifist either. It would be nice to have some character dedicated turns after the expedition, just in time for another giant coalition war in 1798 or something.
Though it does feel a bit odd at this point, since France has really been *TOO* successful, and our enemies *TOO* incompetent. I don't think the rolls are being made up, but they are just so consistently one-sided.
Part of the fun of a Revolutionary/Napoleanic quest is the sense of France vs the world! If the world is too incompetent to put up a good fight then it loses that. Some of the best parts of the story was when the war raged in the Vendee, Austria invaded from the south, and the army of the north was in full retreat. Things felt urgent, and being the firefighter of France felt critical. Egypt doesn't have that same urgency, and it probably won't, unless things get dire, and the urgent situation is to prevent 100k French soldiers from dying overseas, which would be fun.
I want 25 years of close fought, difficult wars! Time to be a real Marshall, and yet things haven't been that hardcore as of yet, not since the fire-fighting incident at least.
Also I really want to see Therese's reaction to the political shenanigans back home. Going from poor surveyor, to "brother of first consul, betrothed to second, and commanding the largest army in France" is quite the step up.
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I shall say this.
Due to being far away from the whole thing involving France, we will not be involved (or even able to learn) about what the hell France will be doing for awhile.
And just because right now things are going well...
They won't be going well forever.
All the enemy needs is a moment... and then things can go to total shit.
Something tells me this will come sooner or later... Just call it a hunch.
Magoose
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... Quietly looks at the War of the Second coalition.
Not yet my child... let them have their victories... They will be fruitless in the end... as War will rage across Europe.
SOON!
If History tells us one thing, it's that Countries, no matter which System of Government they have, do not like defeats. Especially not bad ones like these.
I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of Anti-French Revanchism takes political hold of some of the Great Powers after all that happened in this first War.