Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
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- California USA
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- He
That write in is not a thing the Writ of Justification is next turn.
Hell, we might not even find the Rosetta stone to study when we get there.
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La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)
- Thread starter Plausbius
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- Mature Alt. History
Hell, we might not even find the Rosetta stone to study when we get there.
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- Hawaii
[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
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[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
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Thebigpieman
I've got this, I think.
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- United States
@Nicholas Brooks @Mezaque
The vote for any justification will come after we vote on Therese's course of action.
The vote for any justification will come after we vote on Therese's course of action.
[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
- Location
- Cambridge, UK
[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
Since the later Pharaohs spoke Greek some Egyptian experts being versed in ancient Greek makes sense.
While I would like to see us push the English out of Cyprus. I think the writ goes far beyond the consensus on Sicily then Egypt. Maybe send surplus/reserve troops to Cyprus after we have hold of Egypt. The RN shouldn't have a base in the Eastern Med. Although I recognise that Cyprus maybe a harder proposition due to the remote island position and the amount of time the RN will have had to guess our plans by then. If all else fails a win in Sicily will put something positive in our overseas record.
-[] Justify this as the first step to attacking and taking Egypt, as per orders (which allowed us to do it in any way we chose). This allows to cut off the RN from the Eastern Med, so allows to land our troops in Egypt without being intercepted at sea first (a major concern OTL and one only avoided though Luck, to be honest) and to secure the logistic train back to France. It has the advantage of being true. If/When we intend to continue to Egypt this is the best first step.
- [] To support the reason, prepare materials and personal for campaign both in Sicily and in Egypt (that includes assembling a scientific and medical team with Egyptian and arabic studies specialists). Luckily, a lot of it is dual use (the equipment for a powder mill is identical whether said mill is in Sicily or Egypt)
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
Since the later Pharaohs spoke Greek some Egyptian experts being versed in ancient Greek makes sense.
While I would like to see us push the English out of Cyprus. I think the writ goes far beyond the consensus on Sicily then Egypt. Maybe send surplus/reserve troops to Cyprus after we have hold of Egypt. The RN shouldn't have a base in the Eastern Med. Although I recognise that Cyprus maybe a harder proposition due to the remote island position and the amount of time the RN will have had to guess our plans by then. If all else fails a win in Sicily will put something positive in our overseas record.
-[] Justify this as the first step to attacking and taking Egypt, as per orders (which allowed us to do it in any way we chose). This allows to cut off the RN from the Eastern Med, so allows to land our troops in Egypt without being intercepted at sea first (a major concern OTL and one only avoided though Luck, to be honest) and to secure the logistic train back to France. It has the advantage of being true. If/When we intend to continue to Egypt this is the best first step.
- [] To support the reason, prepare materials and personal for campaign both in Sicily and in Egypt (that includes assembling a scientific and medical team with Egyptian and arabic studies specialists). Luckily, a lot of it is dual use (the equipment for a powder mill is identical whether said mill is in Sicily or Egypt)
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- leiden (NL)
At this point OTL, Cyprus was ottoman (directly controled by the imperial council) and UK did not have a foothold on it (it happened in 1878).
Has this been changed in the quest TL?
[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
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- Space
[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
- Location
- The Colored Room
- Pronouns
- TheOne
No, as far as I can remember.
I think a lot of the thread just has a 19th century understanding of European geography, that's a just a wee bit premature at this point in the.
The 1790s are bit more forgiving for our naval nonsense than it would be further into the future.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
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- California USA
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- He
Yeah naval matters are at best, skewed in a direction of...
who has the biggest fleet, and that fleet is Britain.
As usual. Still, hopefully we can give their Naval Capabiities in the Mediterranean a good strike to the knee by taking Sicily.
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- leiden (NL)
But they are not omniscient. See how Napoleon managed to reach Egypt OTL (or what happened at Quiberon).
OTH, the RN failures stand out because they are few and far between. And when things got the RN way.....
Oh yeah, but those REALLY stand out. Anyone remember Cartagena?
Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
- Location
- Coleraine
I suppose that at least some of the British Fleet might be tied up, either trying to dislodge us from Haiti or guarding the channel.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
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- He
Well the big worry for the Atlantic fleet are pirates and Haiti, and potentially, American Mercenaries.
but those worries are really secondary to a French Fleet operating on convoy raids anywhere.
their main objectives are trying to keep the French Navy in port, something they cannot attempt again after the disastrous Vendee assistance and lose of dozens of ships at Toulon.
Question for you, is Spain allied with France at the moment? As that would mean that the British will have to contend with keeping the Spanish Navy in port.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
They're not at war with us, which has been a boon to France. But there's no treaties or alliances in place to my understanding, no.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
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- He
no treaties, no war, mostly because Spain has other issues to deal with... like their colonies revolting.
NoxOfUmbra
Shadow of the night
- Location
- Colombia, South América
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I thought that the South-American wars of independence had not begun yet. Aren't they in the 1800s?
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
I never said they were independence revolts now, did i?
Nicholas Brooks
Redeemer and Destroyer
- Location
- United States
Dependence revolts. They demand that Spain put more money and direct oversight into their affairs.
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
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- He
Well... there are problems, and locals revolting against local rulers for rights, privileges, and other things.
Nothing to revolutionary yet.