La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)

[Tjakari]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

You need to either convince Paris of it's merit, or prevent any leaks from your army to let them know.
Also, you might even fail, and go to Egypt... immediately. Or get court martialed.

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Damned bureaucrats.

 

[Dutch]

Interesting fact. while Naples itself is pretty royalist, Sicily should be pretty open to reform.

A reminder if you chose to change your objective:

You need to either convince Paris of it's merit, or prevent any leaks from your army to let them know.

Also, you might even fail, and go to Egypt... immedeatly. Or get court-martialed.

Or other... bad things.

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Do we roll for that or do we have to write-in arguments?

 

[Magoose]

Do we roll for that or do we have to write-in arguments?

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You have to chose an action to either hide your movements from your government or tell them straight up.

Telling them, requires a write in during the vote. The longer, more detailed and justified... the better.

 

[ArvisPresley]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

We can prolly finangle up an excuse that Paris can swallow. Just say that we're securing a route and the supply to Malta and Egypt and eventually India(lmao), and remind them that these are nearly 100,000 trained troops we're taking to an expedition with us to Egypt and that the Army getting cut off would be a heavy blow to France and the Revolution.

 

[Night_stalker]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

 

[Tjakari]

Sicily should be pretty open to reform.

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Break up the estates and give them to the people, they'll love us forever.

 

[Vi'Talzin]

I just feel bad for Louis, we totally neglected him to go do what he wanted to himself do after denying him, and now want to depose his relatives.

Anyway, the last time we argued against going to Egypt, they punished us by not only not cancelling it, but by doubling down and giving us command... are we sure we want to do this again? I vote we stay on our course, OTL it is what we did and ITTL we have an even better naval situation.

Like, if we are going to do it, we definitely should go for Sicily, but this is asking for trouble once again.

[X]Follow the government's orders: You are going to be invading Egypt, and secure your objectives there. No need to anger them any more than necessary.

 

[ScreenWatcher]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

 

[wencitofrum]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X] Justify this as the first step to attacking and taking Egypt, as per orders (which allowed us to do it in any way we chose). This allows to cut off the RN from the Eastern Med, so allows to land our troops in Egypt without being intercepted at sea first (a major concern OTL and one only avoided though Luck, to be honest) and to secure the logistic train back to France. It has the advantage of being true. If/When we intend to continue to Egypt this is the best first step.
- [X] To support the reason, prepare materials and personal for campaign both in Sicily and in Egypt (that includes assembling a scientific and medical team with Egyptian and arabic studies specialists). Luckily, a lot of it is dual use (the equipment for a powder mill is identical whether said mill is in Sicily or Egypt)

Edit: added last point and missing ']'

 

[Sir_Travelsalot]

X]Choose a new Objective:

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You're missing a [ there, the tally won't count your vote.

-[X] Justify this as the first step to attacking and taking Egypt, as per orders (which allowed us to do it in any way we chose). This allows to cut off the RN from the Eastern Med, so allows to land our troops in Egypt without being intercepted at sea first (a major concern OTL and one only avoided though Luck, to be honest) and to secure the logistic train back to France. It has the advantage of being true. If/When we intend to continue to Egypt this is the best first step.

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I was under the impression that we'd be making our justifications after we've settled on an objective, so in the following update.

 

[Tjakari]

The longer, more detailed and justified... the better.

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We can prolly finangle up an excuse that Paris can swallow. Just say that we're securing a route and the supply to Malta and Egypt and eventually India(lmao), and remind them that these are nearly 100,000 trained troops we're taking to an expedition with us to Egypt and that the Army getting cut off would be a heavy blow to France and the Revolution.

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Writ of Justification
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For the sake of the Directory's time and patience I will speak on the matters of the upcoming campaign with brevity and directness.

The viability of the Armee d'Orient's mission is dependent on a steady and ample supply of rations, munitions, and information from the mainland.
And as currently outlined, the campaign we have prepared for carries a certainty of that vital supply being interdicted either in major part or in totality by either the declared enemies of the Republic or Barbary Corsairs.

Likewise, the prospects of the Republic to maintain such a supply from the ports of Toulon and the Ligurian coast place a needless and mortal strain on the naval resources of France.

A shorter line of supply needs be established.

To remedy this and avoid the potential loss of both an entire army to famine and materiel exhaustion, and the naval presence of France in the Central and Eastern Mediterranean, a proposal has been sent with this letter.

The Armee d'Orient requests authorization for expanding its military objectives in the following territories:

* The isles of Sicily
* The island of Crete
*The island of Malta
*The Barbary Coasts, for purposes of retaliation.

~Generale Auclair

 

[Magoose]

Writ of Justification

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I can't call this canon yet, because the writ of justification is next turn...

but 15 points to you.

 

[wildman902]

[X]Follow the government's orders: You are going to be invading Egypt, and secure your objectives there. No need to anger them any more than necessary.

 

[ThatGuyWithIdeas]

[X]Follow the government's orders: You are going to be invading Egypt, and secure your objectives there. No need to anger them any more than necessary.

 

[Dutch]

Hmmm. Did the Brits take Corsica in this timeline? They've been doing pretty badly all around IIRC.

Because if they did not then they'll be operating out of Gibraltar at this moment.

Though they have allies in Sardinia, Naples and Spain of course.

 

[force200]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.
-[X] Justify this as the first step to attacking and taking Egypt, as per orders (which allowed us to do it in any way we chose). This allows to cut off the RN from the Eastern Med, so allows to land our troops in Egypt without being intercepted at sea first (a major concern OTL and one only avoided though Luck, to be honest) and to secure the logistic train back to France. It has the advantage of being true. If/When we intend to continue to Egypt this is the best first step.
- [X] To support the reason, prepare materials and personal for campaign both in Sicily and in Egypt (that includes assembling a scientific and medical team with Egyptian and arabic studies specialists). Luckily, a lot of it is dual use (the equipment for a powder mill is identical whether said mill is in Sicily or Egypt)

On another note, I have been searching the use of the 3 line formation mentioned in Oda Nobunaga's legend and cannot find if it was used in Europe. It must have, right? It's nearly 300 years since it was first used.

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Europe independantly developed their own, similar thing called the countermarch volley

 

[Vinpupx]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

 

[wencitofrum]

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The Armee d'Orient requests authorization for expanding its military objectives in the following territories:

* The isles of Sicily
* The island of Crete
*The island of Malta
*The Barbary Coasts, for purposes of retaliation.

~Generale Auclair

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While I like what you wrote, I would advice mention of the Barbary coast as a target. It reeks of avoiding Egypt. We can go after it after we establish a presence in Egypt (rather than attacking India), with justification.

Malta is the property of the Order of the Knights of Malta, who are neutral, and under the personal protection of the Czar (who was a member). I would avoid mentioning it as a military objective. Maybe rather put something on the order of ' secure the cooperation of the Order of Malta and establish an advanced post on the island', if you want to be sure (I would leave it alone).

Crete does not have the same issue, as it is Ottoman territory, but I wonder whether it is really useful to attack Egypt. It seems to me to be too near to Greece and Turkey. Unless you want to put it in our justification to have something to drop when we get criticized for going too far?

 

[NoxOfUmbra]

Also, why request? If they deny it and we still do it it is worse for us. Just inform about what are we going to do, do not ask for permission, we have independent command even.

 

[Vi'Talzin]

Also, why request? If they deny it and we still do it it is worse for us. Just inform about what are we going to do, do not ask for permission, we have independent command even.

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Let's just say being relieved of command is one of the better outcomes of doing that, especially if we don't succeed in what we set out to do.

 

[Magoose]

Hmmm. Did the Brits take Corsica in this timeline? They've been doing pretty badly all around IIRC.

Because if they did not then they'll be operating out of Gibraltar at this moment.

Though they have allies in Sardinia, Naples and Spain of course.

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No. Corsica has become a floating island fortress.

the brits haven't cracked it.

 

[liberty614]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

 

[Alexander Sturnn]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

EDIT: Changed my Vote.

 

[Magoose]

[X]Follow the government's orders: You are going to be invading Egypt, and secure your objectives there. No need to anger them any more than necessary.

Let's not piss the Directory off too much here. Unless we wanna really antagonize them and do our own 18th Brumaire soon, of course.

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Problem with that is simple... if we want an easier campaign, we have to disobey orders.

our dear comrade Napoleon is in Italy, and we can potentially link up with him to discuss plans.

weather those plans are marriage, friendship or coups, that is-up to you.

 

[Pawn Lelouch]

[X]Choose a new Objective: This entire plan is foolhardy, and you can come up with a better one. Sure the government wants you to go off to the ass-end of nowhere… but you want to do something else that would be worth the risk and manpower.
-[X]A Sicilian Vacation: The Island of Sicily is key to the British hold on the central Mediterranean. To capture it, and Malta is to control the Mediterranean… and you have plenty of reason to attempt such a thing. The fact you can cut off Sicily from the rest of Europe, means this will be an easy campaign. Provided you live of course and napoleon decides to continue south.

This isn't going to heavily antagonize them by all accounts considering we can use Napoleon as a shield for this and the supply line argument can easily be used as a defense.