Hey, no bullying!
Unless there's a repeat....then I make no excuse for the hazing.
There will not be a repeat of that fiasco... we've made sure of it.
and should we allow another roll bonus to be used like that, it will be for your benefit (or Brian's) Only.
Well, if it ever gets to the point where Napoleon finds the crown in the gutter and picks it up, we possibly have a few options on how to react.
...No I won't say how he gets a crown.
But he might just... well pull a very famous historical character.
One, we do what Moreau did and get exiled for protesting it, possibly return to help out the coalition and return France to a government he previously liked.
If we tried to protest it and get exiled, we'd be going to America and the quest will enter a very interesting thing.
We ain't no monarchist. We'd want a republic.
The entire continent of Europe wants an autocrat in power.
Second, we do what principled republicans like Lindet did and refuse to be part of the government, holding your head high the whole way while sniping at Bonaparte's monstrous hybrid regime and be the only one to be buried at the capital.
THat may be easier said than done... but the thing is, we can just as easily get our ass kicked out of the army (our only source of political and military power), and we'd be back to square zero.
Thirdly, we can refuse to be part of Napoleon's charade but still be part of the army, like what the future Marshal St. Cyr did, and possibly work your way in as a member of the old new regime's War Ministry
I mean... at this point, we're either all in or... well, spoilers.
Fourth, we can just grit our teeth, accept that you've lost like Jourdan, and ride the wave out, hoping you don't get washed away.
Well that is an option.
To be fair, the British are having big enough problems back in Europe that they're not going to want to throw an army into that cesspool. They would probably just try to hold Canada in the event of a civil war.
You make it seem like the British are planning ulterior motives that will somehow make their actions seem like they make sense to us in the future
No coalition is going to reinstate a Republic.
No colition outside of France.
We must revolt, or we must die. There are no other real options.
I am very smart.
Well there is another way... but I'm not entirely at liberty to say it.
Controversial take here but:
Napoleon >>>>>> Literally Feudal Europe > Civil War
Actually, that's pretty much uncontroversial.
Napoleon, for better and for worse, destroyed the old order with his wars. and that was a good thing for the world.
How could you say something so controversial, yet so true?
But yeah, while things in Nappyland were pretty crazy during his rule, I could say that it was something that made the world turn into a... Better? Different? Innovative? anyways, made the world change, and while change isn't always positive, I think that, seeing the modern era we live in, I would choose Napoleon before Feudal Europe any day.
See above.
My loyalty is to the republic and to the democracy.
That there is no democracy in the Directory is reason enough to coup the government now, but at least it's a republic damn it.
Technically the directory is an emergency government, that's entire mandate is national survival. Once there is peace, then the entire nation can find out where its soul lies.
And whether we go the way of America... or Rome.
My threshold for justifiable action against the government is very low.
But there's a time and a place.
Out of a whole host of potential situations we could find ourselves in, right now is fairly mild.
Some of those other ones, not so much.
Let me put it to you this way.
You may not like what is coming.
cause for France... There will be more rolls in the disaster roll.
The conservatives... and the Republicans.
You don't want either to roll too high, or there will be... trouble.
That said, I believe that once everything stabilizes, then that will be the moment that the Directory will have completed it's function and should be shown the exit. As quickly as possible.
See above. This government is one whose only purpose is national survival and making sure there isn't a civil war..
Everything else is secondary to it
Monarchic restoration.
Whether that's Bourbons (Orleanistes, less so but still) or a popular monarchy based around Napoleon.
A Repeat of the Terror.
Jacobins are not the only faction who will kill and intimidate their problems when push comes to shove.
Brian, whether he liked it or not, set a very good precedent when Robespierre was allowed to defend himself in court.
the only way the terror repeats is if France is under very real threat of being destroyed.
That isn't going to happen. not for a while at least... and if people fuck up.
A Suspension of Constitutional Order.
A bit like what's going on now, but I write that more with a President/Consul Napoleon strong arming the state into handing him more authority than is technically afforded his office.
Emergency powers are bullshit.
Like we even have a constitution to suspend right now.
There's more stuff that isn't very likely to happen like the government hoarding vital resources that people need, like grain. I don't think the quest is going to go there.
I mean... We actually talked about it quite a little bit (at least me and Cyber) about how we could do that.
And we still might do it.
A reinstatement of slavery would be another. I think that one's straightforward in why I'm against that.
Ironcically enough, thanks to Haiti not being a drain on resources, that is a very much impossible even with Napoleon's racist views.
Since Haiti and the Free Slaves are pretty much toeing the line between successful protectorate/colony, and loyal to France, as long as they don;t outright declare independence, there really isn't a need to reinsitute slavery in France. Not unless there is a massive french population in Louisiana.
And on a more personal note for Therese, if the government tries to have her arrested/assassinated on trumped up charges. I would consider crossing the Rubicon in that situation. We might be able to win a trial, and depending on the circumstance I might even vote for turning ourselves in, but it's context-dependent.
If someone tries to arrest you, it helps to have friends.
And you have a lot of politically and militarily powerful friends.
What happens if we're in Sicily when an armistice is signed and we're caught mid-campaign not following the government's orders to go to Egypt?
Do you think we'll get a reprimand, or might we actually face charges?
Well there are a few things that could happen.
A Reprimand is the least of our worries.
We could lose our command for one thing, even a few ranks if we are unlucky.
Then there is the chance we could lose our commission, and then the only way we could win is... Gamble with Napoleon and try to ride his coat tails.
There is the possibility of being labeled a traitor, and us needing to basically make ourselves queen of Sicily just to stay alive (yes I said queen, you have the largest army, and starting a republic would not work)... but that is shaking everything up to a point where "Dear god WTF"
That will be the POV of many people in the high-command, and even in the best case scenario, we may need Napoleon to get our head off a plate, which would end with us owning that to him, God knows what he may do, and we would still get our reputation tarnished.
If you need Napoleon's help, you know it will cost you.
Well not as much as you may think, but it will cost you.
If we do attack the Kingdom of Sicily, we should limit ourselves to the Island of Sicily so we at least have some plausible deniability if they get pissy.
We can say we needed the Island to crack Malta, and we need Malta for dependable supplies in Egypt.
But if we completely derail the campaign and head for Naples, we're playing with our career at least.
You're Playing with your career regardless of what you do.
They are expecting certain things from you... you need to deliver.
