- Location
- Space
We may not play the game, but the game plays us.
Last edited:
La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)
- Thread starter Plausbius
- Start date
- Mature Alt. History
We may not play the game, but the game plays us.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Like you're one to talk Mr. "50 Points to House Robespierre"
Magoose
SV's Questing Fanatic
- Location
- California USA
- Pronouns
- He
Well technically your the one playing the game. Our apprentice is just along for the ride while we control her big choices.
Okay, let's take a step back and remember we're past that right now.
even Napoleon was merciful when it suited him.
we're all in the revolution together here... even if we have different opinions on how things are done.
Last edited:
Yes please
- Location
- The Colored Room
- Pronouns
- TheOne
Hey, no bullying!
Unless there's a repeat....then I make no excuse for the hazing.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Hoche pls
- Location
- Somewhere
Well, if it ever gets to the point where Napoleon finds the crown in the gutter and picks it up, we possibly have a few options on how to react.
One, we do what Moreau did and get exiled for protesting it, possibly return to help out the coalition and return France to a government he previously liked.
Second, we do what principled republicans like Lindet did and refuse to be part of the government, holding your head high the whole way while sniping at Bonaparte's monstrous hybrid regime and be the only one to be buried at the capital.
Thirdly, we can refuse to be part of Napoleon's charade but still be part of the army, like what the future Marshal St. Cyr did, and possibly work your way in as a member of the old new regime's War Ministry
Fourth, we can just grit our teeth, accept that you've lost like Jourdan, and ride the wave out, hoping you don't get washed away.
And the most exciting option of all is follow Malet's example, and attempt to coup the government while Napoleon's away. Didn't end well, but it was quite the statement.
One, we do what Moreau did and get exiled for protesting it, possibly return to help out the coalition and return France to a government he previously liked.
Second, we do what principled republicans like Lindet did and refuse to be part of the government, holding your head high the whole way while sniping at Bonaparte's monstrous hybrid regime and be the only one to be buried at the capital.
Thirdly, we can refuse to be part of Napoleon's charade but still be part of the army, like what the future Marshal St. Cyr did, and possibly work your way in as a member of the old new regime's War Ministry
Fourth, we can just grit our teeth, accept that you've lost like Jourdan, and ride the wave out, hoping you don't get washed away.
And the most exciting option of all is follow Malet's example, and attempt to coup the government while Napoleon's away. Didn't end well, but it was quite the statement.
Last edited:
I don't like how the USA is going to civil war that will bring in the British to retake their lost colonies they will do that
- Pronouns
- She/Her
To be fair, the British are having big enough problems back in Europe that they're not going to want to throw an army into that cesspool. They would probably just try to hold Canada in the event of a civil war.
- Location
- The Colored Room
- Pronouns
- TheOne
No coalition is going to reinstate a Republic.
Does nothing to undermine the authority of the state. Does nothing to move against the monarchy.
And that's just plain cowardly.
We must revolt, or we must die. There are no other real options.
I am very smart.
Last edited:
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Controversial take here but:
Napoleon >>>>>> Literally Feudal Europe > Civil War
Napoleon >>>>>> Literally Feudal Europe > Civil War
UNKNOWN01
Nobody knows me... I feel lonely!
- Location
- Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
How could you say something so controversial, yet so true?
But yeah, while things in Nappyland were pretty crazy during his rule, I could say that it was something that made the world turn into a... Better? Different? Innovative? anyways, made the world change, and while change isn't always positive, I think that, seeing the modern era we live in, I would choose Napoleon before Feudal Europe any day.
UNKNOWN01
Nobody knows me... I feel lonely!
- Location
- Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I mean, the reference is good and all, but...
Let's look at the political scene right now: We have just come out of a revolution, which resulted (or almost resulted, don't remember if Brian's intervention stopped the Terror from going as far as IRL) in a bloodbath, we had revolts and a divided political scene and nation, I'm not sure if we are having the same problem with food supplies that France had IRL, hell, we are still in war, even if it's now going on our favor and it seems that we might be able to end it soon.
Again, I support a Republic and Democracy, but your point of view seem to be missing the full view.
Let's wait until peace and stability before anything.
- Location
- The Colored Room
- Pronouns
- TheOne
How so?
I am not advocating a coup right now. Only saying that one could be justified.
Maybe my tone isn't clear because I'm not using emojis. There are more important things right now than votes for the assembly.
UNKNOWN01
Nobody knows me... I feel lonely!
- Location
- Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Sorry, I think that my comment came out more blunt that I intended.
Well, you did say that the fact that the Directory existing/being in power was a good enough reason to coup it, so I assumed that you were proposing to do that, we have many people proposing that sort of thing these days, so... :/
- Location
- The Colored Room
- Pronouns
- TheOne
My threshold for justifiable action against the government is very low.
But there's a time and a place.
Out of a whole host of potential situations we could find ourselves in, right now is fairly mild.
Some of those other ones, not so much.
Last edited:
UNKNOWN01
Nobody knows me... I feel lonely!
- Location
- Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Ah, I see, I agree that the Directory is not something that it should be, but that we need it for now until things get better, a necessary evil kind of thing.
That said, I believe that once everything stabilizes, then that will be the moment that the Directory will have completed it's function and should be shown the exit. As quickly as possible.
...I wonder if you are talking about Therese or if about France in general.
Anyways, would it be too much to ask for some of the situations you mention? I'm curious.
- Location
- The Colored Room
- Pronouns
- TheOne
Monarchic restoration.
Whether that's Bourbons (Orleanistes, less so but still) or a popular monarchy based around Napoleon.
A Repeat of the Terror.
Jacobins are not the only faction who will kill and intimidate their problems when push comes to shove.
Brian, whether he liked it or not, set a very good precedent when Robespierre was allowed to defend himself in court. But all good precedents can be broken, so I'm watchful of that.
A Suspension of Constitutional Order.
A bit like what's going on now, but I write that more with a President/Consul Napoleon strong arming the state into handing him more authority than is technically afforded his office, in mind.
Emergency powers are bullshit.
Those are the big ones.
There's more stuff that isn't very likely to happen like the government hoarding vital resources that people need, like grain. I don't think the quest is going to go there.
A reinstatement of slavery would be another. I think that one's straightforward in why I'm against that.
And on a more personal note for Therese, if the government tries to have her arrested/assassinated on trumped up charges. I would consider crossing the Rubicon in that situation. We might be able to win a trial, and depending on the circumstance I might even vote for turning ourselves in, but it's context-dependent.
Last edited:
NoxOfUmbra
Shadow of the night
- Location
- Colombia, South América
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Alea iacta est, on board with this
UNKNOWN01
Nobody knows me... I feel lonely!
- Location
- Nowhere
- Pronouns
- He/Him
So... kinda like the IRL ending of the Napoleonic Period, which going by history, would be bad for France.
Hmm... I know about the Jacobins, the Monarchics and maybe the military could end like this, but I would be grateful if you could provide me some examples, most of the time things like this are mentioned, the Jacobins usually are the first thing to come in any place I have read.
Yay for Human Rights and Equality before the law!
Hum... We'll just have to see where this is heading. We are in a very important moment for French politics right now.
And very vaguely defined, for the most part.
For the moment, I think we are safe from this, so France should just keep going as always for now in this front.
Haiti has been having a really good luck so far, so I that as long as Napoleon doesn't do his IRL stuff, this shouldn't happen...
Depending on how this campaing goes, we have a very real possibility of this happening, so we should be cautious about any political drama while in Egypt... Well, more than usual.
- Location
- The Colored Room
- Pronouns
- TheOne
But back to the Campaign Preparations...
What happens if we're in Sicily when an armistice is signed and we're caught mid-campaign not following the government's orders to go to Egypt?
Do you think we'll get a reprimand, or might we actually face charges?
What happens if we're in Sicily when an armistice is signed and we're caught mid-campaign not following the government's orders to go to Egypt?
Do you think we'll get a reprimand, or might we actually face charges?
The First and Second White Terrors
Oops, beat me to the punch.
Last edited: