La Chanson de la Victoire (The Song of Victory): La Petite Arpenteuse (Non, SV, you are a General of France in the Napoleonic War!)

Parlez-vous français?

  • Oui, je parle très bien français!

    Votes: 162 14.3%
  • Un peu.

    Votes: 188 16.6%
  • What? Francis? Nope.

    Votes: 330 29.1%
  • What? Oh, don't be silly, my dear!

    Votes: 161 14.2%
  • ¿El español es lo suficientemente bueno?

    Votes: 86 7.6%
  • Ich verstehe dich irgendwie.

    Votes: 64 5.6%
  • Я очень хорошо говорю по-русски.

    Votes: 64 5.6%
  • 我听不懂。

    Votes: 35 3.1%
  • 何を言っているのですか?

    Votes: 28 2.5%
  • nuqneH pa'!

    Votes: 10 0.9%
  • فرانسه بلدنستم

    Votes: 7 0.6%

  • Total voters
    1,135
I'm kind of struggling with the words to describe my feelings on the current thread discussion/situation. I've been following the quest, kind of lurking sometimes voting since September of last year, and while I won't stop following I think the current situation where one person (sauce) can make a decision to negatively impact the protagonist's brother of the quest simply because they have made up in their mind that there are no consequences(I really don't understand where this perspective on the quest comes from) and that we apparently need to be punished for their perception of how the quest is.

This is the only quest I follow, where not only are omake bonuses able to accumulate and then be spent in massive numbers to effectively guarantee a result in favor of whatever that omake writer desires, but also are apparently allowed to be spent on whatever character that writer feels like throwing for. I guess my main complaint, and general sense of unease and dislike is that I almost feel held hostage by sauce and other potential omake writers, who can just write out endless omakes, and are apparently allowed to use said omakes whenever they wish to negatively impact the mc of the quest, when I always thought there was a sort of implicit understanding that omake bonuses were too help the player character. I was always vaguely uncomfortable with the idea someone could dump a +50 on a roll and secure us a victory or success on some critical action, but I guess it happened rarely enough (and was used in favor of a direction the thread wanted) that I just kind of lost my concern. Having now participated in far more quests I honestly think the omake system in this quest is just straight up poorly constructed, and gives omake writers far too much potential control of how the quest plays out.

Like how many that voted for the trial would have voted for the trial knowing someone was going to drop a +50 to make sure we have negative consequences in an apparent effort to punish the quest for having too much success so far. It just feels like it limits quester agency. I'd vastly prefer the omake system gets reworked, and that only one +10 can go to an action or something like that.

Now we have a situation where we are in a critical moment in the quest, and an omake writer has decided to effectively go rogue and guarantee a role result that would absolutely negatively effect our character's brother, and I'm just kind of left with a vague sense of powerlessness, confusion and honestly a bit of anger/hostility, so I hope this post doesn't cross a line.
 
Er... forgive me since I'm not well versed in early French Revolutionary history but did anything of the like happen OTL? Because as far as I know, there weren't that many negative effects for the coup since most people supported it since the Reign of Terror wasn't exactly a good time but I could be wrong. Like, I know there were a few loyalists but I don't think things would go horrifically wrong to the point of something like that due to the amount of support.

Unless you mean for specifically Therese herself, for which I can't say much
You should read up on things like The White Terror, the Muscadin, a hell of a lot of violence happened during the coup, and I think that this one is a bit different. Thermidor at the very least was a coup inside the government, military coups are a bit different. Also rapid inflation after the General Maximum got abolished, the military being invited by the government to negate any election results that were favorable to the Jacobins or the Royalists.
 
Really, from now on there's no point in discussion, if someone can simply manipulate results to intentionally punish us for action they don't like we should simply only take actions that can't backfire.

Basically from now despite everything we should simply vote for options that can't backfire, if we go for a coup we should kill the target right away.

Also having Omake points at least given up before vote is over helps significantly. I don't mind that people use points they earned as they like, what i do mind is rest of the voters not having any influence to minimize the damage in decision making process and not being properly informed as such things can influence our decision.

Plainly speaking given the new circumstances we learned can we have vote extension?
 
Might as well put my two cents in, honestly I don't feel we should boost either Brian or Rob, let's leave this up to the dice entirely, it's kinda why we voted for the trial in the first place.
I'd be happy with this.
As would I. I only added my +20 as a (very humble) counterweight to Szechuan. I was honestly keeping it in the bag for a campaign or a duel, something life threatening or necessary.
Though this situation definitely fits the case, I'd also like to abstain.
The parallel to Rob's own conduct is inescapable. Absolute power should not be permitted. I propose an overall cap of +/-20% on how much bonus we can add to circumstances on a roll. A couple of Omake at most.

My concurring opinion is yes, but make the limit +/- 30 points instead. These damn omakes take time to write, they should at least have a potent reward, if not a derailing one.

Likewise, I think there should be a cap on the amount of points we can stock up. Some of us only have one or two sets of points we can use at a time. ( I haven't written all that much, relative to most of the others) But others have well over a hundred.

I'm incentivized to be judicious. They are incentivized in the exact opposite direction, and I'm honestly surprised it took this long for someone to lay their cards on the table like this.

Edit: Hell, there were previous actions where I was banking on others throwing their weight around a bit.
And cause there doesn't seem to have been any consequences for the things we've done in the quest, might as well make sure its a big consequence.
Any consequences actually, we've been doing so much questionable stuff that I'm surprised didn't get us thrown in a prison cell and sent to a revolutionary tribunal or at least have spies sent to watch us.
And now it makes all the sense in the world why you didn't throw your bonuses in after every update. You wanted to keep the story balanced.
 
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I'm kind of struggling with the words to describe my feelings on the current thread discussion/situation. I've been following the quest, kind of lurking sometimes voting since September of last year, and while I won't stop following I think the current situation where one person (sauce) can make a decision to negatively impact the protagonist's brother of the quest simply because they have made up in their mind that there are no consequences(I really don't understand where this perspective on the quest comes from) and that we apparently need to be punished for their perception of how the quest is.

This is the only quest I follow, where not only are omake bonuses able to accumulate and then be spent in massive numbers to effectively guarantee a result in favor of whatever that omake writer desires, but also are apparently allowed to be spent on whatever character that writer feels like throwing for. I guess my main complaint, and general sense of unease and dislike is that I almost feel held hostage by sauce and other potential omake writers, who can just write out endless omakes, and are apparently allowed to use said omakes whenever they wish to negatively impact the mc of the quest, when I always thought there was a sort of implicit understanding that omake bonuses were too help the player character. I was always vaguely uncomfortable with the idea someone could dump a +50 on a roll and secure us a victory or success on some critical action, but I guess it happened rarely enough (and was used in favor of a direction the thread wanted) that I just kind of lost my concern. Having now participated in far more quests I honestly think the omake system in this quest is just straight up poorly constructed, and gives omake writers far too much potential control of how the quest plays out.

Like how many that voted for the trial would have voted for the trial knowing someone was going to drop a +50 to make sure we have negative consequences in an apparent effort to punish the quest for having too much success so far. It just feels like it limits quester agency. I'd vastly prefer the omake system gets reworked, and that only one +10 can go to an action or something like that.

Now we have a situation where we are in a critical moment in the quest, and an omake writer has decided to effectively go rogue and guarantee a role result that would absolutely negatively effect our character's brother, and I'm just kind of left with a vague sense of powerlessness, confusion and honestly a bit of anger/hostility, so I hope this post doesn't cross a line.
Honestly, we'll make the results as closely tied to reality as they are, so you won't have Rob rolling a crit on trial then dancing a little jig to explode Brian and become supreme dictator while simultaneously purging all his political and military opposition. The Brian arc will be over soon anyways, and the rolls don't represent "You do XX, you win the jackpot and all of Vegas". It's more of an opposing check, and I wouldn't be too worried about the results unless someone were to go "50 points to murder this character because I want that", since this is still a collaborative effort, and there's more than just me contributing to the updates, after all.
Plainly speaking given the new circumstances we learned can we have vote extension?
Well, sure. I'm kinda busy for the next half a week or so, so I'll scratch the previous deadline and extend it for a while to let y'all decide.
 
[X] [Rob] Service in the army as a private: So he wishes to serve France. So be it. Give him a uniform and a rank of private. He shall serve France as you do. His fate is in his own hands.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
 
[X] [Rob] Service in the army as a private: So he wishes to serve France. So be it. Give him a uniform and a rank of private. He shall serve France as you do. His fate is in his own hands.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
[X] [Napoleon] No: There is enough chaos and mistrust in the state as is. You will bide your time to meet him about this... unhappy dispute. (We return to Thérèse and the Army of the Rhine, and we see how the rest of the world is holding up.)
 
[X] [Rob] Imprisonment: Criminals are to be imprisoned, and Robespierre is no different. He shall be imprisoned by the state, to live and see the growth of the republic, without his influence. Keep your enemies close, as it were.


[X] [Rob] Service in the army as a private: So he wishes to serve France. So be it. Give him a uniform and a rank of private. He shall serve France as you do. His fate is in his own hands.
[X] [Lackeys] Imprisonment: France may still need them close to home... but they will not serve as free men. They will be imprisoned where we may keep an eye on them.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Nenshou Yuuki on Sep 28, 2020 at 7:20 PM, finished with 272 posts and 40 votes.
 
Hmm, should I troll everyone with a roll without any sort of context... or should I roll for how well Thérèse is at her knowledge at history?

Knowledge of history it is.

Edit: So... She's possibly one of the greatest historians of her era if she so wishes.

Edit2: Might as well do Brian as well.

Edit 3: Brian... not so much.
Magoose threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Thérèse knowledge of history Total: 94
94 94
Magoose threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Brian's Knowledge of History Total: 9
9 9
 
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Brian in the post: "Is this how Caesar felt?"
Brian in the roll: "What's a 'Rome'?"
The Auclairs are smart/geniuses, not the most well educated (look at their stats, they're both in the teens at education).

Also, I was just bored and wanted to roll the dice to see if I have Plaus' Luck.

Brian's actual knowledge of history is much much greater.

Edit: I don't have Plaus' Luck. That's why I don't roll the dice.
 
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Basically Brian can tell us what historical events happened generally. We can pinpoint the social, political and economical reasons that caused said historical event.
 
Copying from the discord but

I got curious on American volunteers involved in the French Revolution and found an interesting article of minor characters that could cross paths with Therese or Brian in their journeys. The most probable one is probably John Eustace since he's in the Army of the North (we're here too!) but he had some weird political stuff that put his military career in jeopardy until Dumuoriez defected.


He also apparently served at Valmy (claimed to, at least) so that's a potential connection point for meeting with Therese.
 
Alright so listen up everyone, the update is coming, but we're having some editing issues, and we're writing both the rumor mill, and the update with Therese, along with something special.

Please be patient and please, do not go asking where the next update is.

We're working on it.
 
Also vote is closed, please await results coming soon!
Adhoc vote count started by Plausitivity on Oct 6, 2020 at 7:43 PM, finished with 281 posts and 40 votes.

Trials for both and talking to Napoleon wins!
OH holy dice please bless America with Nat 100 or close to it so we can have a good ally
DW I got u homie, lemme roll fo dat.
Edit: eh, they're independent, don't bite off more than you can chew :V
Plausbius threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Murica Total: 48
48 48
 
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So...

In terms of education, we can safely narrate about all the specifics of every historical event we ever learned about, while Brian is a lot more general knowledge?
 
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