[X] Plan Making Swift Justice (And The Shiny) A (Nigh) Certainty - Intrigue Edition
I'm a High Fantasy Tax Collector, So What? A CKII Tax Collector Quest
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- death ck2 quest all proceeds go to real spiders are we revolutionaries or reactionaries today criminal justice discussion makes the gm fuzzy don't count your boats before they sail granary management if i lose my meows get me likes to replace them justice spider knock knock it's the finance ministry meows for discussion while supplies last taxation taxes this is not an empire quest
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- USA
Most of those come across as kinda lazy quest writing? Sprinkling in so little in the way of descriptions doesn't really come across as teasing the truth but rather failing to describe things and leaving it up to the reader to shape them as they want.
To be fair, we as players don't need to know what any character looks like to know how to play. Give us a few good lines to understand the rough character archetype that our GM is using, we generally don't need to know much else to follow what's happening in the quest. Descriptions can be nice, but they aren't necessarily required to tell the story.
More relevant to the parts about our MC, any details about our MC can easily be explained as hyperbole or generic fantasy shenanigans. Darkvision is really the only one that's come up before that can't be just hyperbole, and it's such a common thing in fantasy that it hardly deserves a reaction.
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- Attached to a wall
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- She/Her
[X] Plan Making Swift Justice (And The Shiny) A (Nigh) Certainty - Intrigue Edition
BREWING SUSPICION MONTH 10 ROLL CALL
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Plan Making Swift Justice (And The Shiny) A (Nigh) Certainty - Intrigue Edition wins, 7-2-1.
Roll me 8d100s.
Martial: Knock Knock: DC: 25. Base Stat: 17 + 1 + 2 + 2. Cost: 2 Budget.
Diplomacy: The Royal Faction: DC: 20. Base Stat: 17 + 2. Cost: 10 Budget.
Intrigue: Chasing the Count: DC: 26. Base Stat: 22 + 3 + 2. Cost: 8 Budget.
Learning: Sympathetic Resonance: DC: 25. Base Stat: 20. Cost: 4 Budget.
Stewardship: A Fair Trial: DC: 15. Base Stat: 22 + 2. Cost: 0 Budget.
Piety: Justice, Unerring and Unflagging: DC: 26. Base Stat: 20. Cost: 0 Budget.
Roll me 8d100s.
Martial: Knock Knock: DC: 25. Base Stat: 17 + 1 + 2 + 2. Cost: 2 Budget.
Diplomacy: The Royal Faction: DC: 20. Base Stat: 17 + 2. Cost: 10 Budget.
Intrigue: Chasing the Count: DC: 26. Base Stat: 22 + 3 + 2. Cost: 8 Budget.
Learning: Sympathetic Resonance: DC: 25. Base Stat: 20. Cost: 4 Budget.
Stewardship: A Fair Trial: DC: 15. Base Stat: 22 + 2. Cost: 0 Budget.
Piety: Justice, Unerring and Unflagging: DC: 26. Base Stat: 20. Cost: 0 Budget.
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- Attached to a wall
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Let's Rollllll
EDIT: ignore the D8
EDIT: ignore the D8
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NeonLights
Formerly Reliable_2IC
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- In shambles
Rolling in!
Edit: Not what I wanted, but at least it's not a one.
Edit: Not what I wanted, but at least it's not a one.
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- USA
Hmm...roll?
Right I caught up let me roll.
...4th Roll has a cointoss chance of succeeding so, I'll brave the waters.
EDIT: Well, we failed the 4th so I take the 6th... which has a 40% chance of success.
*internally screams*
Post-Edit: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
EDIT: Well, we failed the 4th so I take the 6th... which has a 40% chance of success.
*internally screams*
Post-Edit: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA-
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- Location
- USA
RER time! Let's get crazy!
Edit: I'm good about keeping it average
Edit: I'm good about keeping it average
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- Attached to a wall
- Pronouns
- She/Her
The spirits are with us, or against the count.
Running away is a great strategy in appeasing the spirit of Justice.
Running away is a great strategy in appeasing the spirit of Justice.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
Aight fuck it we'll do this live
+2 Shiny.
Title: The Just. Gains Virtue: Justice (Will not replace Prudence), and gains +2 Diplomacy, +2 Piety.
Status: Ally of Justice: Permanent - 5 DC to all Justice-related actions.
Do you want to annul the roll, or have me use it for something?
As a result of a natural 100 and other various Justice aligned actions, Justice will grant you one boon. As you are the roller, you get to pick one.
+2 Shiny.
Title: The Just. Gains Virtue: Justice (Will not replace Prudence), and gains +2 Diplomacy, +2 Piety.
Status: Ally of Justice: Permanent - 5 DC to all Justice-related actions.
Aight, since you're the last roll let's also have a choice for you:
Do you want to annul the roll, or have me use it for something?
Okay I don't want to interfere since this is the roller's choice so I will just say this, Thank you! This is awesome regardless of choice Justice FTW!
Also this reminds me since we are going to get at least 1 shiny from completing in a year, will their be a new list or will we pick from the old one?
In other words and in order: a) `flexible benefits to tailor to our new case'; b) 'narrative bonus and jack-of-all-trades bonii'; or c) 'stupidly powerful situational bonus'. Of note-
The two bonii stacks. So for +5 Stats shoring up our Diplo problems and upping our Stewardship up, we unlock the Respect stat.
@huhYeahGoodPoint, care to tell us what the stat does now? I will be picking The Just.
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
Done.
Respect as a stat is one of the three previously hidden relationship statistics. It is exactly what it sounds like: how much people respect you. In their own turn they may Love or Hate you, but so long as your Respect is high your word, your honor, and your intentions carry weight. Just the opposite, should you prove to be unworthy of Respect people may also still love and hate you in their own turns, but there is always an acknowledgement: you may have power but it is one wielded by a fickle and disreputable power.
To have 1 Respect is to be notable. To have 10 shapes the nation. To have 20 shapes the world for hundreds of years to come.
As such, the three relationship stats will be unlocked as of the next Case.
Wow this kind of makes me want to double down and spend our shiny on Respected just so we can have that much more weight to our word after this and make it so people know we mean business. Probably not optimal but it is a cool thought.
- Location
- USA
Nah, it's pretty average. That means even if you use it nothing interesting will really come of it. Unless you already have something that needs a roll just annual it
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
For truth! Freedom! JUSTICE! Reasonably-priced love! And a hard-boiled egg!
Long Drawn Out Sigh....
We got a +2 to Intrigue, and a +1 to Marital, and we got +2 from the Spirits. Though that means the Heat bonus drops to 1 (since it won't apply above 25).
The option last turn specifically said it would use Kerrie's intrigue.
Kerrie's Martial is 17, Heat gives +1 and the Spirtis +2, so we start with 20. Not sure if the Merc bonus applies or not. @huhYeahGoodPoint Does it?
Diplomacy Stat is 17, we get +2 from Spirits. That's 19, if we add our free action we can get up to 22. Feeling that we should go with the Neutral Faction.
Intrigue stat is at 25 with Heat and Spirit bonus, so both actions are possible and likely to succeed. 8 (Speed is King) + 10 (Any of the Diplomacy Actions) + 8 (Chasing the Count) brings us to 26 Cost. Leaving 16 still available...
On Stewardship, Abstentia has a 60% chance of success stand alone, 90% if we add our Free action. 22 (base) + 2 (Spirits) + 3 (Free Action).
@huhYeahGoodPoint Shouldn't we just have one option, that of Advancing the Case and if we catch the Count we get Fair Trial, and if we don't it's Trial in Abstentia? What happens if we pick Fair Trail, and don't catch him? What if we pick Abstentia and we do catch him?
Basically these are just add ons to make it easier to catch the Count.
To me the real question is where we should put our Free Action, add it to the Diplomacy? Or to Abstentia? Or use it to cash in on our information?
Note that to really succeed we need to not just catch the Count, convict him, but also convince the Sejm to strip him of his money. That suggests to me that we need to use our Free Action on Diplomacy.
[X] Plan Convince the Sejm For Total Victory
-[X] [Martial] Speed Is King
-[X] [Diplomacy+Free] The Neutral Faction
-[X] [Intrigue] Chasing the Count
-[X] [Stewardship] A Fair Trial
-[X] [Learning] Sympathetic Resonance
-[X] [Piety] Justice, Unerring and Unflagging
Martial has a 90% chance of catching the Count. Intrigue has a 90% chance of catching the count. Combined that's a 99% chance of catching the count, and that doesn't take into account any bonuses we might get from Learning (somewhere between 60% and 80% chance of success) and Piety (an 80% chance of success). So yeah, we are catching the Count. That means he gets convicted so the only thing left is to convince the Sejm to strip the Count of his property. We could go all out on the Noble Faction and have an 80% chance of success, or we can go with the Neutral Faction, have a 100% chance of success, and hope that succeeds in leveraging the Nobles Faction into conceding the issue.
I don't know enough about the situation here, so I'm leaning on the descriptions, which have me feeling that convincing the Neutral Faction is likely enough to count this as complete win for the tax office. But if the Neutral Faction has a less than 80% chance of persuading the Noble Faction to concede the issue, then we are actually better off with the Noble Faction.
@huhYeahGoodPoint Can you provide any guidance on whether the last point is true or not?
EDIT: AHHHRG!!!! The entire turn occured during my work shift!!! It used to take a full day for a turn to roll through... now it's less than 9 hours!?!
EDIT2: I'm going to bed.
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- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
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- He/Him
While I didn't put together anything about being nonhumanoid or spider-like until this last update, I had figured that Agueda was a dwarf rather than a human since the beady black eyes.
That said, I am going to say that the only actual evidence we had to conclude that Agueda isn't human has been in the last update. We were given no reason to assume that Agueda was anything other than human and there wasn't any actual hints until this latest update. Saying that the QM pulled a fast one on us is incorrect since there was no way for us to realise that there something else going on.
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- Leeds