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We must not know the same goddesses.
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A gift for Sidhe, eh?
Hmmm.....
For her birthday gift, I think we're going the "wrong" way. I'm thinking on someting not that flashy but ideally more meaningful: a framed photograph.
We'd have to rely on Agneyastra for the picture itself* as we don't have a(nother) camera but we can try to get a nice frame here. Or maybe getting the materials so Jade makes the frame herself (I'm thinking something metal so we are the forge, some LC shields can work as a mould**)
* probably one where she's at the center but with everybody on it
**is that the word?
- Money isn't an issue and Sidhe knows it, we don't have to demonstrate her how much money we have (if Sidhe truly wanted something Jade would buy it for her, birthday or not)
- It's something Sidhe can "use" without taking it out of her room so little risk of loss/damage.
- It's meaningful because it serves her as a reminder of her new place of belonging (a point related to all spoilered quotes above)
- It's doubly meaningful because it's also something Jade made herself
Comments?
Edit: we can still buy something nice for Sidhe here (or Nanoha or ourselves for that matter)
Hmmm.....
For her birthday gift, I think we're going the "wrong" way. I'm thinking on someting not that flashy but ideally more meaningful: a framed photograph.
We'd have to rely on Agneyastra for the picture itself* as we don't have a(nother) camera but we can try to get a nice frame here. Or maybe getting the materials so Jade makes the frame herself (I'm thinking something metal so we are the forge, some LC shields can work as a mould**)
* probably one where she's at the center but with everybody on it
**is that the word?
- Money isn't an issue and Sidhe knows it, we don't have to demonstrate her how much money we have (if Sidhe truly wanted something Jade would buy it for her, birthday or not)
- It's something Sidhe can "use" without taking it out of her room so little risk of loss/damage.
- It's meaningful because it serves her as a reminder of her new place of belonging (a point related to all spoilered quotes above)
- It's doubly meaningful because it's also something Jade made herself
Comments?
Edit: we can still buy something nice for Sidhe here (or Nanoha or ourselves for that matter)
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Precog, but it's nothing important and Neph didn't say anything about us needing to track him down:
I'm in favor of having this conversation if possible since it sounds fun, but not sure aimlessly wandering around the Academy is the best way to go about it. Sounds like this guy will decide to approach us, not the other way around, and we don't know where he is. The Academy's a decent bet, but is it worth going out of way to where he might be, when he's already likely to come to us?
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
I like the idea of a shopping trip, but we'll have to find a way to include Nanoha - it'd be easy for it to turn into "Jade and Sidhe geek out over magical doohickies that Nanoha can't perceive". Ideas? Clothing doesn't really work because we have fabbers and Agneyastra. Nanoha doesn't really seem like the type to enjoy clothes shopping anyway. Maybe make a point of shopping for swords and other things that Nanoha can use to smite her enemies?
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It does sound like a "don't find me, I'll find you" situation. Probably sufficient to just stay visible instead of disappearing somewhere?
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Ahah, thanks.
It does sound like a "don't find me, I'll find you" situation. Probably sufficient to just stay visible instead of disappearing somewhere?
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I'll give you dragons (who are non-humanoid), but Sigurd is a post-human upload and doesn't count.
On the update: So, white aspect is here? Nice. I notice Jade didn't say anything about Nanoha getting godhood and what sounds very much like an Agni spark in that scenario. I guess that's for later when we talk with Agneyastra. And, as a consideration: Indira loves us, and is somewhat fixated on us, as we are "the last family [she] has". Given that she doesn't seem fixated on all the branch members, she probably considers soul relationships more important than blood (Especially because we use artificial vessels, so DNA-based families is a tricky subject anyway). If we make Nanoha an Agni (as the ritual might do), and in general discover a ritual to do such to random people, her reaction should be ... interesting. I can see both positive and negative reactions to such development, from where Indira becomes ardent Nanoha/Jade shipper and asks us to make certain people Agni as well (I am fairly sure she might want a consort and her desire to have a "true" family is established in the text, I believe), to where she despises Nanoha as an abomination / usurper / pretender. Something to think about.
I also greatly object to Jade not taking samples. Because, you know, magic resistant disease. Natural one, it seems. If it exists in one place, it can exist on others, and needs to be preemptively studied, so as to make sure we, and everyone we care about can be immune. Also, tissue samples from the fanalis. And leave him our contact information or something - he'll probably want to repay the debt to us.
I didn't notice that "Hayate is not the only one linked to BoD" conclusion. It might be wrong, though.
Also, as a note: my current belief is that Holly is a familiar - either ours, or Nanoha's, that we make at the beginning of the JS incident (hence the need for familiar healing supplies).
Jewelry / gifts (souvenirs) for Nanoha's family and friends, spices and wines (Nanoha was raised in the bakery, right? Does she enjoy baking / cooking at least in principle?) - it's not like we can get drunk (easily). Art, maybe?
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
The point has been made, and I think that I agree, that we don't know enough about the disease or its capabilities to contain it safely. It's virulent enough to generate its own mana; I could easily see it going full Andromeda Strain. We got an ability keyworded off it, we have a perfect memory of the magical aspects of it, and Agneyastra spent quite a while within ten meters of it and almost certainly scanned it inside and out, so I'd be astounded if we can't replicate it if we want to continue development. More importantly, the instance we were studying there was apparently quite thoroughly advanced, and if you're studying a magical disease, you want to start with the weakest form of it you can find and keep it weak.
I'd much rather approach research on this disease by instantiating it ourselves, containing it entirely using White or Blue, and then completely purging it using Red every time it starts getting everywhere - give it no ability to develop a resistance before it's obliterated and ensure that nothing is left to build a resistance to Red across iterations.
I was figuring that that was going to be Yuuno? Familiar/mage Yuuno, not giant space ferret Yuuno.
This sounds like it could work, yeah. Along with finding tools and weaponry for exploration and dealing with things like the Jewel Seeds.
I think you have a good idea here.
Sidhe will be around for likely her lifetime. But this is about the last time we are going to be the three girls and Agneyastra alone. With the settlement on Magi, and two likely recruits on MGLN within weeks (Holly and Hayate at the very least), and then after that any recruits from the defeated and also bonding Sigurd and a lot more likely people involved in our lives. I like the idea of immortalizing this trip.
I don't think it necessarily needs to be a basic picture and frame, we're the magi-tech future, but you very much have the right idea.
I would suggest we don't get Sidhe (or Nanoha for that matter) anything related to work (read: magic) as a special gift. For one, we'll naturally pick up stuff for them as a matter of course. For two, I would rather encourage Sidhe to find non-work hobbies or pick up things she does in spare time rather than throwing herself farther into "must be useful".
With how she followed Jade into a room full of sick people just to, apparently, stare at Jade, I'm pretty sure she can survive being excluded while Jade geeks out with Sidhe. And isn't telepathic discussion ridiculously fast thanks to artificial vessels anyway?
And thinking about buying Nanoha gifts is probably not going to help the "why can't I date Nanoha noooooow" problem Jade currently has. Just including her in conversations is probably enough, and I don't think we need to vote for it to ensure that happens.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
I think that I agree here; if we're looking for birthday presents and similar, go for sentimental value. Shinies are, right now, a bit too much about "work".
I think the "made by hand" aspect isn't necessary, but a framed photograph of everyone together is perfect. For customization, I'd look in the direction of durability enhancements - we're not living the most peaceful of lives, and even Agneyastra's hammerspace probably isn't invulnerable.
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- Germany
Sigurd isn't a standard companion made from a dead Herald, he was an extraplanar before. Since he disdains bipedal motion, he wasn't even humanoid.
Pretty sure that's just Neph being more distant or less emotional. We had her switch between white and red text before.
Not worth the risk of a developed strain. Besides, we have next to no experience with Black and Green.
I somewhat doubt this Shadowblood is natural, seems more like an experiment to me.
His tissue was ravaged and wouldn't make for a proper uncontaminated sample.
Honestly, if Sigurd didn't prefer four legs, I'd have guessed at him. Still, Holly's features e.g. match Adept Marina, whose first name we never got.
Holly might not be from MGLN.
So she'll treasure her first birthday present from us, whatever it is.
Gifts for Nanoha's family and friends, exotic cooking/baking ingredients, enchanted picture frame, all good ideas.
She wants to learn ice magic for fun, just like our fiery wings were fun to us. I don't see a problem in encouraging her hobby. Why should we push her in another direction? Having fun with magic is great, and the fact she picked Scrya by herself shows she has other interests.
Regular shinies, yes. The one field of magic she told us she wants to learn, though? That's not a shiny, that's showing that you remember.
I just don't really see the problem with multiple gifts, one sentimental and one practical. Enlighten me, please?
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We should also get a few basic artifacts of any single color.
Analysing our Heirloom Ruby helped us quite a bit with
Heralds were mortal humans, weren't they? Ok, I'll amend "first mortal intelligent non-human sophonts". Basically, aliens who are not gods.
Can you even make familiars out of humans in MGLN? I would guess that it would be at least illegal as hell.
[X] Propose meeting up with Sidhe and going out shopping. Since this is the one plane that actually accepts the weird gold, you'll have enough of it to purchase whatever you want.
-[X] Do a cursory scan of everything you can find, but don't get too bogged down looking at any one thing.
-[X] Look for a birthday gift for Sidhe. Something of sentimental value. Maybe find a street artist to make a quick image of the group together? Or a locket where to hold such a picture.
-[X] Look for something for Nanoha. Shop for souvenirs for her family and friends together? Her parents have a bakery, so maybe some exotic spices or cooking implements / cookbooks? Or ornamental swords? She would know best.
[X] So what did Nanoha think of Neph?
-[X] Do a cursory scan of everything you can find, but don't get too bogged down looking at any one thing.
-[X] Look for a birthday gift for Sidhe. Something of sentimental value. Maybe find a street artist to make a quick image of the group together? Or a locket where to hold such a picture.
-[X] Look for something for Nanoha. Shop for souvenirs for her family and friends together? Her parents have a bakery, so maybe some exotic spices or cooking implements / cookbooks? Or ornamental swords? She would know best.
[X] So what did Nanoha think of Neph?
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No.
You're honestly not sure, but it doesn't seem to be something she's been actively seeking out during her stay with you. From what you know of her, she might enjoy it, but for the sake of working with friends or family.
Nixeu
Lord of Madness, Harbinger of Llamas
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- Your nightmares.
I don't know that extraplanars typically need legs. They're usually somewhat ethereal. I can easily see Siggy having fallen flat on his face a time or two while adapting to having physical form.
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- Belfast
I see an entertaining tale or two there of when Sigurd first manifested himself a physical form
.After all I suspect he at least tried 2 legs before resorting to 4
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- Germany
[] Get birthday presents for Sidhe, one sentimental (enchanted frame for group photo?) one thoughtful (AoE ice magic to freeze enemies in place?)
What about this proposed phrasing?
I wonder what Sidhe will get from Agneyastra...
Jade's reaction to a telepathic ferret will be glorious, why would Neph ruin that by mentioning for who the equipment actually is?
With so many different dragons around (MGLN, Earthland, Thedas), I wonder what Jade's dragon form will look like?
What about this proposed phrasing?
I wonder what Sidhe will get from Agneyastra...
Tools to heal familiars should work on Yuuno Scrya's shapeshifted ferret form. So no, he's not bound as a familiar.
Jade's reaction to a telepathic ferret will be glorious, why would Neph ruin that by mentioning for who the equipment actually is?
Never said he was corporeal before, just that he wasn't humanoid.
With so many different dragons around (MGLN, Earthland, Thedas), I wonder what Jade's dragon form will look like?
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A locket carries the "risk" of not being used, just like the earrings; I'd prefer a frame but that's just me.
But apart from that minor nitpick I'm ok with the vote.
[X] Yog
Why make something practical a gift? We will be buying it anyway, simply as equipment.
Ok, how about this:
[X] Propose meeting up with Sidhe and going out shopping. Since this is the one plane that actually accepts the weird gold, you'll have enough of it to purchase whatever you want.
-[X] Do a cursory scan of everything you can find, but don't get too bogged down looking at any one thing.
-[X] Look for a birthday gift for Sidhe. Something of sentimental value. Maybe find a street artist to make a quick image of the group together? Or a locket where to hold such a picture. Or maybe some sort of ornamental and enchanted picture frame?
-[X] Look for something for Nanoha. Shop for souvenirs for her family and friends together? Her parents have a bakery, so maybe some exotic spices or cooking implements / cookbooks? Or ornamental swords? She would know best.
[X] So what did Nanoha think of Neph?
- Location
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The Wolkenritt- wait no that was definitely illegal.
Agito wasn't human, but her creation was almost certainly illegal.
Maybe Lulu's bug buddy? Not a human, again, but sapient, and I don't remember if their relation was ever made explicit. (And Lulu didn't really care about the law at the time.)
Did Caro and Lulu's dragon summons count as familiars? Both of them were sapient, if not human.
Marina is a name IRL, so that's probably her first name. I always assumed it was her first name, actually. @Alivaril, do we know?
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
[X] Quickly check with Mom to make sure you've cleared out all instances of the shadowblood ecosystem.
-[x] People with similar symptoms or records of same, microorganisms or spores from the diseases, research notes, maybe she could quickly question a doctor?
[X] Propose meeting up with Sidhe and going out shopping.
-[x] Don't get bogged down; you don't want to exclude Nanoha, and anything particularly interesting you can just buy to look at later.
-[x] Look for toys and shinies, both for yourself+Sidhe (fun effects to learn from), for Nanoha+Mitra+Agneyastra (magical utility items, weapons), and for people you know/families etc (exotic spices, magic knickknacks and tools that tech can't match, exotic fashion items, etc).
We're getting Sidhe a picture. We don't need anything else.
-[x] People with similar symptoms or records of same, microorganisms or spores from the diseases, research notes, maybe she could quickly question a doctor?
[X] Propose meeting up with Sidhe and going out shopping.
-[x] Don't get bogged down; you don't want to exclude Nanoha, and anything particularly interesting you can just buy to look at later.
-[x] Look for toys and shinies, both for yourself+Sidhe (fun effects to learn from), for Nanoha+Mitra+Agneyastra (magical utility items, weapons), and for people you know/families etc (exotic spices, magic knickknacks and tools that tech can't match, exotic fashion items, etc).
We're getting Sidhe a picture. We don't need anything else.
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