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Hugh's Perfectly Normal Mafia Game Where Nothing Weird Happens Whatsoever

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Y'know what, why not? Hubris is a coward's word.

oh god what am I doing? I don't know what that does. I think I'm in for some fun times ahead with the perfectly normal mafia.
 
It does. Top right, thread tools, who replied. Click on the number of posts.

Also, I'm sideeying your Draxy read really hard right now.
 
I'm just going to ignore cult. Don't have the mental energy to play a cult game. Just going to assume everyone's alignment is what I read them to be as I go on.

@Nictis how come @ the Draxy read?
 
Draxy said:
OK got to admit I'm wondering what exactly on page 4 gave you this idea. Looking at my page 4 it looks like it is just me thanking Nic for clarifying stuff. You're either on more posts per page than I am, or apparently good manners makes someone town these days. :V
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I think I'm on 25 PPP. Manners are towny, yes! But no, you just have that sense of ease and I'm also going by that claim list you made above.
 
Hm Zaelix claims 3P investigative Day 2 but he hasn't been nightkilled meaning we don't have an SK and mafia are keeping him alive because a) a 3P investigative isn't a priority for them to kill and b) Finding 3Ps is good for them too.
 
A cult would want to recruit that though but Zae is townie toDay (Day 3?) so we don't have a cult either and the roles mentioning cult are red herrings.
 
Basically what Draxy said. I flipped over to p.4 and didn't see anything particularly towny or not towny from Draxy.
 
btw I'm hopping around in post numbers because I'm using Draxy ISO as a branching off point
 
ComiTurtle said:
First off we have 15 players, we remove yourself as a target and myself because I'm not going to suggest my own demise, so I have 13 targets. Remove Wies, MiracleGrow, ICantRemember, and Chipernierm because of new player night 1 courtesy. We are now down to 9 players. And then remove Shadell because eliminated day 1 in the previous game. With that we have 8 players remaining:

99Lies - Slightly more out-there than normal 99Lies posts, nothing big, maybe some confusion on the Shadell question with the answer, hate the "I've been framed post"
-Rosen - Not much to be enthused about here currently, I've seen both much townier and much scumier Rosen in the past but there isn't a whole lot of content and even admits as much.
Nictis - Outside of a outlining of the history of SV bastard games, been in their little gimmick, I do not like most of their messaging around acting blindly, and if we didn't get the bit outside of the formatting I would actually suspect it being a power based requirement and agreeing to their posts directly having some effect, not enthused here.
Logos - Don't really think the plays so far have been the most effective, but is questioning players and answering questions, an avoid for kill for now.
RoachTV - Self vote on Meme-phase is red flag after AlphaDelta and I did it as scum and now always pings as negative personally. Second post is then pushing you to reveal. Wies vote is okay, though voting the person questioning you about your early vote is well... suspect. Post 118 is fine, but I'm noting the "What is importat for scum is knowing the roles of the town... but that's not what I was asking." is true in this post and the post chain that prompted it but not true of Roach's second post in game. Chiperninerm vote feels random.
Draxy - Draxy's main focus of note is on the Nictis play going between being suspect of it to going in line with it, not the best look in my opinion.
Scia - Reserved, strange SK question, but here, if anything I want an @Scia for what they got out of the SK question at least at current.
Zaealix - Not much, I have some tin-foil that one of those first posts before the reapearance is indicating knowledge of some part of the game but I really just don't have much to go on.

Given the ISO on all of those players right now I'd say eliminate Roach, most suspicious actions overall, and with probably a back up of say Roach is eliminated, Scia if my question isn't responded to or 99lies for the I'm framed bit.



The goal of the roleblock is to try and stop a kill or other scum ability more or less, if my first two targets died I'm probably happy about it and and likely suspecting that my action is a lie, and just feel great about my unlimited vig, "I guess death is a type of roleblock." If anything my targeting only slightly changes since most players I'd probably want to RB I'd also be fine killing.



No.

Also I would like the next 3 posts to include you being truthful about your faction, stated clearly in a line separated from any other text. K thanks that would be great.
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Seven said:
p#152 ComiTutrle scum
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So that's Comi's post 152 above. Honestly not seeing it.

There's that bit on 99, which in retrospect looking at the mentioned 'framed' post is a clear reference to his miller role. It's possible Comi was spooked by it, and thus choose 99 as the night kill but at same time, if we assume he is scum then it's possible Comi picked up on 99's hinting in which case I don't really see him going to eliminate the miller first. Other than that, not sure where you got the scum read from? Is it the drawing attention to Scia, going to have to review things to see if this is the first post that did that, and if this kicked off the wagon that followed.
 
Nictis said:
Basically what Draxy said. I flipped over to p.4 and didn't see anything particularly towny or not towny from Draxy.
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Yeah I'm a really good player. Like one of the best.

p#272 So Logos is a mafia doctor. No reason to claim all of that Day 2. Also I'm confused under what condition would you be shown as visiting @Logos? You said if your target isn't killed you're not seen as visiting, and if your target is strongman killed you're not seen as visiting. Aren't those the only two situations?
 
Draxy said:
So that's Comi's post 152 above. Honestly not seeing it.

There's that bit on 99, which in retrospect looking at the mentioned 'framed' post is a clear reference to his miller role. It's possible Comi was spooked by it, and thus choose 99 as the night kill but at same time, if we assume he is scum then it's possible Comi picked up on 99's hinting in which case I don't really see him going to eliminate the miller first. Other than that, not sure where you got the scum read from? Is it the drawing attention to Scia, going to have to review things to see if this is the first post that did that, and if this kicked off the wagon that followed.
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I haven't read the post yet but it's tonally different than their town play in She-Ra. The only part I read was about you and I was like yea this is scum.
 
Seven said:
Yeah I'm a really good player. Like one of the best.

p#272 So Logos is a mafia doctor. No reason to claim all of that Day 2. Also I'm confused under what condition would you be shown as visiting @Logos? You said if your target isn't killed you're not seen as visiting, and if your target is strongman killed you're not seen as visiting. Aren't those the only two situations?
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By the wording of it, if a normal kill is directed at my target -- which apparently dousing counts as considering it's been mentioned twice now -- then I heal. I still haven't gotten a clear answer on whether targeting someone who didn't need healing counts as visiting for tracking or exploding imps or whatnot, so that's still a bit ambiguous to me.
 
Seven said:
I haven't read the post yet but it's tonally different than their town play in She-Ra. The only part I read was about you and I was like yea this is scum.
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Ah, in that case yeah I see it. I honestly got the same feeling at the time, felt like something I saw last time in that game were they claimed survivor but were arso. I don't really like commenting on those feeling I get though usually, because I feel I'm probably biased, nor will I vote purely on that (exception Wies but he was really annoying me at that point, though will I say I think he's probably exe at this point since I'm putting it all on the table). Probably should speak up about it more though, it's usually correct when I get that feeling. There were a few more of their posts I was a little eh on as well I think, will try and find them tomorrow if I can.
 
Chiperninerm said:
My current number one suspect is Logos. They came to support me early on which was a kind move, but the doctor claim makes me a bit suspicious.

I don't know just how ill advised their role claim, but in my mind it would be safer for them to just say an arsonist didn't target Nic. The doctor role, like any other life saving roles, should be a priority target for the mafia as they negatively impact the efficiency of night kills and give the town more chances. Unless Logos is certain that another person will protect them, they will die tonight.

Also such an early claim makes me suspicious that Logos wants the Ethos of the doctor role to support their claim of a second killer. Introducing another factor into the town's investigation will slow down the investigation of the mafia. Time and energy diverted in looking for a better independent killer can not be recovered.

So role reveal will test the proof of the role claim.

Then my next pick is Z as the ability claim someone as not mafia without any further information or seems like something any of the Mafia can do. But their active questioning and explanation for why they are not trying to pocket the miller helps explain away the suspicion.

So between these two people I would vote for one that is the least harmful to town if true. The doctor, in my mind, has equal utility to a mafia spotter, but has an advantage in reducing the mafia's action economy. That said it doesn't fully remove my suspicions, but do to their health I'll hold off on the vote.

I have time tomorrow to vote once they explain their rationale.
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So the first really meaty post is one that puts suspicion on the doctor claim of logos.

Chiperninerm said:
I stayed inside all night and I'm unaware of any visitors. I could have been visited by a role with a stealth modifier, but I doubt it for the first night. I'm assuming my status as a new player on SV Mafiapaired with my currently poor performance makes me a low priority target for Night killers. I might be targeted later on if the mafia wants to get around dodge a protection or heal action.
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The above was in response to me, there doesn't seem to be any movement of their preferences here also may become important later for myself.

Chiperninerm said:
I don't want to risk losing the Doc right now
[X] Vote RoachTV
Can someone please check Logos tonight?
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After have suspicions their focus becomes to protect the doctor claim because doctor effectively even though time past this doesn't seem to be the correct move from the post two above.

Nictis said:
Mentor is a serial killer that gets to recruit an apprentice from the Town and usually shares a chat with them. If the Apprentice dies the Mentor gets to recruit another one, if the Mentor dies then the Apprentice becomes the Mentor and gets to take an apprentice as well.
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This description of mentor would be impossible to beat. I don't know why past me felt like I had to respond to this.

I've been trying to get this post written and out for six hours now but something kept coming up. And I didn't even get to the logos section at all.

However I'm pretty sure this game is mountainous in effect if not technically in role names. Scum discovered it quickly and went with a doctor claim ro get probably some level of security and are now concerned about it biting them.

Which is why I don't quite like Wies this phase looking to place doubt on the mountainous construction of the game.
 
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