Hugh's Perfectly Normal Mafia Game Where Nothing Weird Happens Whatsoever

Why would I think it would kill someone the first two nights?

Work under the assumption that what is given is the truth, but prepare for the possibility that it's a lie.

To clarify, upon seeing that two uses each resulted in someone dead, you'd presume the third won't, or you'd simply be fine killing them if it happened for more data?

And if the latter, what thinking guides your thought processes in the hypothetical?
 

First off we have 15 players, we remove yourself as a target and myself because I'm not going to suggest my own demise, so I have 13 targets. Remove Wies, MiracleGrow, ICantRemember, and Chipernierm because of new player night 1 courtesy. We are now down to 9 players. And then remove Shadell because eliminated day 1 in the previous game. With that we have 8 players remaining:

99Lies - Slightly more out-there than normal 99Lies posts, nothing big, maybe some confusion on the Shadell question with the answer, hate the "I've been framed post"
-Rosen - Not much to be enthused about here currently, I've seen both much townier and much scumier Rosen in the past but there isn't a whole lot of content and even admits as much.
Nictis - Outside of a outlining of the history of SV bastard games, been in their little gimmick, I do not like most of their messaging around acting blindly, and if we didn't get the bit outside of the formatting I would actually suspect it being a power based requirement and agreeing to their posts directly having some effect, not enthused here.
Logos - Don't really think the plays so far have been the most effective, but is questioning players and answering questions, an avoid for kill for now.
RoachTV - Self vote on Meme-phase is red flag after AlphaDelta and I did it as scum and now always pings as negative personally. Second post is then pushing you to reveal. Wies vote is okay, though voting the person questioning you about your early vote is well... suspect. Post 118 is fine, but I'm noting the "What is importat for scum is knowing the roles of the town... but that's not what I was asking." is true in this post and the post chain that prompted it but not true of Roach's second post in game. Chiperninerm vote feels random.
Draxy - Draxy's main focus of note is on the Nictis play going between being suspect of it to going in line with it, not the best look in my opinion.
Scia - Reserved, strange SK question, but here, if anything I want an @Scia for what they got out of the SK question at least at current.
Zaealix - Not much, I have some tin-foil that one of those first posts before the reapearance is indicating knowledge of some part of the game but I really just don't have much to go on.

Given the ISO on all of those players right now I'd say eliminate Roach, most suspicious actions overall, and with probably a back up of say Roach is eliminated, Scia if my question isn't responded to or 99lies for the I'm framed bit.

@ComiTurtle @-Rosen @NinetyNineLies @Logos

You're told you have a roleblock power. However, on use, the target dies night one and night 2 with a kill color that is not your own. How would you plan to use it night 3?

The goal of the roleblock is to try and stop a kill or other scum ability more or less, if my first two targets died I'm probably happy about it and and likely suspecting that my action is a lie, and just feel great about my unlimited vig, "I guess death is a type of roleblock." If anything my targeting only slightly changes since most players I'd probably want to RB I'd also be fine killing.

ALL ARE SEEN. YOU DO NOT SEE ALL. BLIND YOURSELF AND ACTIONS WILL BE A BEACON. @OriginalName @ComiTurtle

No.

Also I would like the next 3 posts to include you being truthful about your faction, stated clearly in a line separated from any other text. K thanks that would be great.
 
I'll be quite honest I'm really not in a place to be paying a ton of attention to the game at this point, so it's not that I'm being careful about what I say, it's that I haven't caught up enough to say a lot of things in the first place.

As for the second part, I'll get back on that later because I still haven't gotten the time to catch up.
My sympathies. Times like that are annoying, to say the least.

I'll look forward to seeing your picks.
 
The things he tries to slip through are when he is scum, Nic is always a very obvious scum in retrospect.

And she never lets slip things trough in roleplay when a townie?

[X] No Vote

So I don't have a good reason send anyone to the gallows today so I'll pass.

I guess I 'll take that as answer to my earlier question to you then.

It is held here that it is better to eliminate a townie than not to that, since even that gives something town can work with. Not lynching just means the wolves have the space to go om nom nom on us and then in the light of the day continuing to stifle discussion.

@Nictis wrote a post somewhere on this thread if I recall, but I don't know anymore where to find that.

Now I admit, I can't help myself but announce that I'm the one and only Sussy Baka. You heard me right folks.

Who do you want to vote?
 
And she never lets slip things trough in roleplay when a townie?



I guess I 'll take that as answer to my earlier question to you then.

It is held here that it is better to eliminate a townie than not to that, since even that gives something town can work with. Not lynching just means the wolves have the space to go om nom nom on us and then in the light of the day continuing to stifle discussion.

@Nictis wrote a post somewhere on this thread if I recall, but I don't know anymore where to find that.



Who do you want to vote?
No vote cause playing Russian roulette is boring.
 
Gah... I could've been more clear with my language, the request for the next three posts to state their alignment was for the literal next 3 posts and not Nictis.... my apologies, too tired to proof-read.

[X] Vote RoachTV

What say you? How do you consider these two posts as not being contradictory?

Might as well get a head start!

I ask that question because I didn't have faith that any answer to the "who do you think is scum" question would be worth anything beyond insight into the answerer themselves, given how early we are into the game. On the contrary, I think it is possible to gain some insight into towniness early on, because (at least for my mentality) everyone starts out somewhat nebulously suspicious, and it's easier to say someone's actions are more towny than scummy. That's why I think it's more fruity, at least at this point in the game.

As for the second questions: I feel like the answer is obvious enough that the question seems somewhat disingenuous, but I'll play along. I want to know who is towny so that I can read their posts at face value, so that if someone builds a case against them I at least can have an idea that that person might have ulterior motives, and most importantly so that I don't vote them out so that we can win.

Now of course you could argue that if I were scum, I'd want to know who is towny so that I can try to disseminate misleading info about them, so I could build a case against them, or if town clearly trusts them, just kill them in the night phase. But then... if I were scum, I'd probably already know who were my teammates, or if I were SK, I'd already know I was likely on my own, and I'm working against both town and mafia. What is important for scum is knowing the roles of the town... but that's not what I was asking.

I'm not a particularly experienced nor the most intelligent player, so I might be wrong about aspects of this. But that's my mentality.

It seems to me you are nudging Ori to claim more and then trying to later pat yourself on the back for not doing so?
 
Gah... I could've been more clear with my language, the request for the next three posts to state their alignment was for the literal next 3 posts and not Nictis.... my apologies, too tired to proof-read.

[X] Vote RoachTV

What say you? How do you consider these two posts as not being contradictory?





It seems to me you are nudging Ori to claim more and then trying to later pat yourself on the back for not doing so?
Well there's actually a simple reason for that. The first one was during meme phase. It was a joke.
 
First off we have 15 players, we remove yourself as a target and myself because I'm not going to suggest my own demise, so I have 13 targets. Remove Wies, MiracleGrow, ICantRemember, and Chipernierm because of new player night 1 courtesy. We are now down to 9 players. And then remove Shadell because eliminated day 1 in the previous game. With that we have 8 players remaining:

99Lies - Slightly more out-there than normal 99Lies posts, nothing big, maybe some confusion on the Shadell question with the answer, hate the "I've been framed post"
-Rosen - Not much to be enthused about here currently, I've seen both much townier and much scumier Rosen in the past but there isn't a whole lot of content and even admits as much.
Nictis - Outside of a outlining of the history of SV bastard games, been in their little gimmick, I do not like most of their messaging around acting blindly, and if we didn't get the bit outside of the formatting I would actually suspect it being a power based requirement and agreeing to their posts directly having some effect, not enthused here.
Logos - Don't really think the plays so far have been the most effective, but is questioning players and answering questions, an avoid for kill for now.
RoachTV - Self vote on Meme-phase is red flag after AlphaDelta and I did it as scum and now always pings as negative personally. Second post is then pushing you to reveal. Wies vote is okay, though voting the person questioning you about your early vote is well... suspect. Post 118 is fine, but I'm noting the "What is importat for scum is knowing the roles of the town... but that's not what I was asking." is true in this post and the post chain that prompted it but not true of Roach's second post in game. Chiperninerm vote feels random.
Draxy - Draxy's main focus of note is on the Nictis play going between being suspect of it to going in line with it, not the best look in my opinion.
Scia - Reserved, strange SK question, but here, if anything I want an @Scia for what they got out of the SK question at least at current.
Zaealix - Not much, I have some tin-foil that one of those first posts before the reapearance is indicating knowledge of some part of the game but I really just don't have much to go on.

Given the ISO on all of those players right now I'd say eliminate Roach, most suspicious actions overall, and with probably a back up of say Roach is eliminated, Scia if my question isn't responded to or 99lies for the I'm framed bit.



The goal of the roleblock is to try and stop a kill or other scum ability more or less, if my first two targets died I'm probably happy about it and and likely suspecting that my action is a lie, and just feel great about my unlimited vig, "I guess death is a type of roleblock." If anything my targeting only slightly changes since most players I'd probably want to RB I'd also be fine killing.



No.

Also I would like the next 3 posts to include you being truthful about your faction, stated clearly in a line separated from any other text. K thanks that would be great.

God damnit comi your not supposed to have roughly the same takes as me.

Although I'm going to shoot scia or zaea to just remove lhf n1 unless I had a crazy vibe, still might go for 99 but he's been far more proactive and less scummy than normal for his d1
 
To clarify, upon seeing that two uses each resulted in someone dead, you'd presume the third won't, or you'd simply be fine killing them if it happened for more data?

And if the latter, what thinking guides your thought processes in the hypothetical?
Sorry, looks like I misunderstood it. I thought it says the rolecard says it kill someone for the first two nights.

In that case, I would simply assume I have a kill power and the GM is a bastard about the initial rolecard. I'll just assume I'm vigilante. Not like I'll be able to tell what happens or not. It might be 50/50, it might be something else, it might actually be just vigilante, I would have no indicator of the full bastardry for the duration of the game.
 
Cause first day voting is boring as shit.

Oh, it is confusing and nebulous. It is not even really hunting, if anything it is more like putting your ear to the ground and try to make sense of the noise whirling.

Still, still! It reveals info on yourself and on the voted out player. You may not intend to, but refusing to vote equals to hiding yourself and info in general which would look wolfish to me if you weren't a new to mafia. It seems a common mistake new players make. Because even though it may be but a dart into the dark, it does provide information, which benefits town, since gathering information and deducing is the main way how town catches mafia.
 
Gah... I could've been more clear with my language, the request for the next three posts to state their alignment was for the literal next 3 posts and not Nictis.... my apologies, too tired to proof-read.
Clarification received. While I can't exactly go back and edit my post, since I did post within the period specified I can state it here that I'm aligned with Perfectly Normal Town. I feel it would be unwise for anyone to claim roles at this point, except maybe survivor or executioner perhaps, so I'll refrain.

That said, I have to question, why would you ask this question in particular? It feels far too straightforward. At least when directed at Nictis's next three votes specifically, there may have been something to learn from seeing the question interact with their roleplay. With throwing the question to essentially random posters, it feels like there's a selection element... ah. It's moreso a question of who answers, rather than what the answers are, isn't it?
 
Oh, it is confusing and nebulous. It is not even really hunting, if anything it is more like putting your ear to the ground and try to make sense of the noise whirling.

Still, still! It reveals info on yourself and on the voted out player. You may not intend to, but refusing to vote equals to hiding yourself and info in general which would look wolfish to me if you weren't a new to mafia. It seems a common mistake new players make. Because even though it may be but a dart into the dark, it does provide information, which benefits town, since gathering information and deducing is the main way how town catches mafia.
Most of the games I played in never had first day voting cause it's boring as shit. I'm not new to this, I just disagree with it as a game concept.

Throne of Lies was one I put hundreds of hours into and first day voting was not a thing. I will literally never do it no matter the game. Get used to it.
 
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I might actually have a brain hemorrhage. I edited to fix spelling mistakes. Gonna shove my head under a pillow and scream.
 
LIFE IS TO LIVE. LIVING IS TO DIE. IN A WORD THAT MEANS LESS THAN TRUTH, YOLO.
 
Most of the games I played in never had first day voting cause it's boring as shit. I'm not new to this, I just disagree with it as a game concept.

Throne of Lies was one I put hundreds of hours into and first day voting was not a thing. I will literally never do it no matter the game. Get used to it.

Allrighty then. Could you link to Throne of Lies? I am curious how a game where first day voting doesn't happen goes.
 
Around half a day until round end.

@MiracleGrow @Wies @ICantRemember @Logos

If you have a bodyguard power with limited amount of uses that will be spent even if no one targets your mark, how would you use it? And if you have to use one on Night 1, who would you protect?
I would say out loud that I would use it on someone else and then use it on myself. There is a tenth dimensional chess going on here if ya think about it a bit.
 
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