Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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This might have just been the results of a roll, but it looks like this latest Lecturing action did not move our prospective second Nascent forward. It helped our Qi Condensation and Formation Building cultivators, which is excellent for eventually raising up more Core cultivators, but it didn't help us progress in our race against Jingshen.

Edit: It'll help us reach more powerful Nascents when we do get there, though.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by RebelYell on May 22, 2021 at 11:33 AM, finished with 50 posts and 24 votes.
 
Gaius Antonius 41 - Fight
Gaius Antonius Omake # 41 - Fight

Once again, as he is wont to do, The Seeker transcribes his thoughts onto yet another notebook. This time it is not philosophical notes to aid his cultivation, but simple stream of consciousness writing. He does not know why he's writing these particular thoughts down - perhaps a desire for those who find this notebook to understand what happened.

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Day after day, I find myself pulled by a new feeling. It is not unsual for me to believe in my instincts, but something about this feels... different.

The Earth-Gliding technique almost completely removes any danger from the Centennial Trials for me. When I use it to run away, there is probably no one in Qi Condensation who can catch or stop me. The trial hunters are not an organized force, they're a bunch of individual marauders, each after personal accomplishment. Sometimes they work together to take down a large goal, but in the vast majority of cases they are in small groups or alone. Easily avoided.

I cannot help but feel a sense of guilt for looking at the Trials this way, however. This practice, which has fueled the burning rage of my people for tens of thousands of years, stirs something in me beyond personal concerns. Even if it is illogical, even if I cannot make a major impact, I want to fight.

The smart thing to do is preserve myself. I'm not stupid, I understand the extent of my potential; I will become a King, a being who can singlehandedly shape history to their will. The smart thing to do would be to protect myself so that I can achieve my ambitions later in life, then repay the debt.

But I'm not feeling very logical. I want to fight, more than I ever have. It feels like my very blood is boiling within me, driving me into a righteous anger. Not just for myself, I want to fight for the Clan. Alone or in a group, I'm fine with either, but if I do nothing but run away, I will surely lose my mind. To shirk from hardship would be antithetical to The Seeker's desires. Through struggle, I grow - the same is true of all of humanity, in a way.

And so I have decided that I will embrace the risks and fight back. I will send those bastards home one after another, either their bodies or their departed souls. Tomorrow, I will get my affairs in order; in the event of my death, everything I own that is of significant military value with be repossessed by the Clan, of course. The things of only sentimental value, I will partition off to my friends in my will.

Perhaps it is because I came so close to death in the Qigai Secret Realm, but I feel calm. The Golden Devils have long had a friendly relationship with death, and it's one that I understand a little better now. A good death is one of the most important parts of a Devil's life; if I fall here, I will not be satisfied with my life, but at least my death will have been one to be proud of.

Father. Papa. For one year I wil turn my sight away from you. I will defend the people you turned your back on. I sometimes wonder if you can feel my attention on the back of your neck - I hope you do, I hope you know I'm coming for answers. You may feel a reprieve for thirteen months, but don't you dare rest easy.

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This one is quite short, but I wanted to put something out to conceptualize Gaius' feelings going into his first Trials. You could think of this as a prologue to the collab if you want.
 
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This might have just been the results of a roll, but it looks like this latest Lecturing action did not move our prospective second Nascent forward. It helped our Qi Condensation and Formation Building cultivators, which is excellent for eventually raising up more Core cultivators, but it didn't help us progress in our race against Jingshen.
That was never the purpose of the lecturing action. We took it to reduce our losses in the trials by applying another buff to the juniors.
 
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That was never the purpose of the lecturing action. We took it to reduce our losses in the trials by applying another buff to the juniors.
I see. Hopefully it works. We're currently at about half-strength for all cultivator levels except Core and Nascent, where Core is at one-third strength.

We have three Great Circle Core Formation cultivators, hopefully one will go over to Nascent within half a century, but I don't think we can rely on them if we can't do anything to encourage it. We may have to assassinate someone.

The other man likely was simply waiting to be able push one of his juniors into Nascent Soul, on which he'd come over the border no matter the justification he had at hand. Striking back and potentially losing now, or winning with certainty later? Even Manuel would've taken the latter. Biting into the Jingshen margin didn't revoke their advantage, slowing down a victory was no victory at all. The third Jingshen Nascent Soul had been something to fear before Old Cannibal had been driven out, now it was a thing that kept him perpetually on edge.
As we're unlikely to be willing to attack Jingshen directly when it would be a 2v1 in their favor, biting at their margins is all we're really capable of doing. We'd better make sure they're huge bites, and hope that's enough.

There are several arguments against the plan of empowering the Jingshen vassals enemies in order to cut them off of all their southern territories.
  • We simply won't be able to build or work within Jingshen borders without them noticing and interfering. Their vassals are Enemies and Subjugated Enemies, they'll have Jingshen manning their borders and guarding their roads. They'll have eyes on them.
  • The Heavenly Bandit Kingdom and Grand Scorpion Sect may not want to be huge annoyances to Jingshen, as that could bring full Nascent might down on them.
  • Even if we did give them stones, arts, arrays, forts, they still might not want to be our vassals. Enemies of our enemy is not our friend.
  • Building fortifications along roads isn't subtle.
  • It's too much too fast. It's Intrigue and Diplomacy and Fortification over two territories.
  • Where would we get the money?
Counterargument:
  • We can get into HBK and GSS lands and work within them. This land is huge huge huge. Moving quietly and passing through borders is easy enough, but Jingshen didn't even fully staff their own border, they're not going to put effort into tightly guarding their vassals' borders. Their entire border control fphilosophy was 'it's our vassals' problem to keep Cannibals out'. The HBK and the GSS were the ones guarding their own borders, which happened to keep Jingshen safe and away from the fighting. They're the ones manning the border forts, and they're the ones we want to empower. At most Jingshen are going to be guarding the roads the convoys from their new territories pass through. At the point where the HBK and GSS attack the roads, Jingshen would have noticed anyway.
  • Nascent issues: They may choose to be subtle and circumspect so Nascents won't come for them and they'll only be small annoyances. I hope they don't choose this, but if they do, that gives us more time to build them up. If they go big and declare for us, good. We'll be defending them with Manuel, or Jingshen will think that we'll defend them with Manuel, which is almost as good. They'll have all the protections all our other lands have. If they don't declare for us and go big, we can use them as a distraction. If one of the Jingshen Nascents heads down south to visibly wreck stuff, Manuel won't have to worry about wrecking stuff within their core territories, as he can take either of them 1v1.
  • If HBK and GSS don't declare for us, that's fine. We've got the ability to capitalize on distractions we don't need to protect. However, the Fortify option says that it improves relationships in the fortified territories. We don't actually need them to be our friends, we just need them to hate Jingshen and use the convoys of wealth and stone they steal to empower themselves. They might use any power they gain to raid the Storks instead, but they simply won't hate the Storks as much as they hate the people who, so the Cannibals wouldn't eat them, used to cull them first. And it's much easier to raid within your own territory. Finally, if Manuel is more worried about them using their new power against us than secrecy and subtlety, we could build fortifications in areas that would only be able to hinder Jingshen instead of us.
  • On the other hand, if Manuel desires subtlety more than averting risk, Fortification isn't necessarily literal forts.
    [ ] Fortifying (Write-in territory, ally or vassal) - Spend Clan manpower and soldiers to build new fortifications against outside enemies. New Arrays, help train new cultivators in lesser Formations to defend their lands, and so on. Will also strengthen a vassal or ally if chosen, and increase relations with them. Increases defenses in the chosen territory, ally, or vassal.
    It's quite possible to have the Fortify option just teach HBK and GSS and give them stuff.
  • We may be using the Intrigue action against the Jingshen anyway to make sure they're not up to anything sneaky, but secrecy isn't our top priority and neither is making sure HBK and GSS like us first. I'm perfectly happy to jettison arranged marriages and secrecy in favor of just dumping stones and arrays on them.
  • Where do we get the money to fortify our own lands? We always have the ability to fortify our own lands, that's just what choosing the Fortify option does. If we want something special bought, that's when we shell out Wealth.
 
Easiest way to eat the Jingshen's margins would be to hike up the tariffs and offset it by selling our own cheaper Spirit Stones from the new mines in the Ten Thousand Pits, imo.

We also need to learn more on the details of Jinshen planning because we've been blinded to them for the past century after losing our Intrigue Elder and replacing them with Xinya, who had a malus.
 
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Auspicious Nine 1 - The March of Progress
The March of Progress
Auspicious Nine First Omake Turn 10

PERSONAL JOURNAL OF AUSPICIOUS NINE (FOUR, KEEP OUT)



ENTRY 1.

My research has borne fruit. In the diaries of famed horticulturalist and botanical death-master Viridi Anticheiras, I discovered a truth that will shape my further development for years to come. Said this pre-eminent master-


'Of course, the true gardener knows well that to truly aid his garden's development, he must speak to it. Each plant and flower must know his voice. EACH TREE MUST HEAR HIS CONVERSATION.'​

Emphasis mine. In any case, this gem of wisdom must be applied. I am, myself, a tree. I am also a gardener by some interpretations – I am attempting to further the growth and appropriate development of plants, in this case myself and my siblings. Therefore, I must talk to my subjects. This journal will serve as documentation for my studies.



ENTRY 2

Began with easiest subject – myself. To ensure the appropriate acoustics, located a large room with stone walls and high ceiling. Relocated contents to maintain accuracy of data. Also removed lighting, to remove distractions.

Spoke to the subject for thirty five minutes. Discussed all aspects of life – reading, writing, dealing with infuriating siblings, speaking to the Pleuron family, and research. Results initially seemed promising – subject felt invigorated by such sensible discussion, and enjoyed not being interrupted midway by Four screaming about paper being murder, or the sun being our true god, or Beef in Oyster sauce. However, after completion of the experiment, subject was unable to leave testing facility, as he could not find the door. Attempting to locate it by touch led subject to walk into several walls, bruising his face and feet. This progressed to some minor emotional distress until the subject was located by Athena Pleuron, who provided relief.

Subject was then asked why he had moved everything out of the cold room and covered the windows, leading to all frozen food spoiling. Upon receiving the answer, Athena stared at the subject for two and a half minutes without speaking, then sighed and told him to run along.

Results inconclusive. Further testing required.



ENTRY 3

Continued testing with new subject – sibling Three. Located subject standing in siblings' private quarters, looking out the window. Recorded conversation as follows:

INTERVIEWER (Hereafter, Int.):
Hello Sibling Three.

SUBJECT (Hereafter, Sub.): (Jumps.) Aaagh!

Int.: I am conducting-

Sub.: PLEASE stop sneaking up on me like that.

Int.: I am conducting an experiment.

Sub.: You keep doing it.

Int.: …Conducting an experiment?

Sub.: No. Well, yes, but that wasn't what I meant. You keep- doing that. Sneaking up behind me and giving me a fright. I don't like it.

Int.: I have no memory of previously sneaking up on you.

Sub.: You did it last week! I was watching the soldiers outside, and you shouted very loudly!

Int.: You mean experiment 37?

Sub.: …Do I?

Int.: Testing the reaction times of the average demonic tree when prompted by unexpected stimuli.

Sub.: Why on EARTH were you testing for that?!

Int.: We are a new species. Essentially unprecedented. We must test for everything.

Sub.:
I didn't like it.

Int.: This is not relevant information. My current experiment is simpler.

Sub.: Oh no…

Int.: I wish to test the effects of conversation on the development of appropriate subjects.

Sub.: Oh. Well. That doesn't sound too bad.

Int.: We will begin by discussing the importance of research.

Sub.: …Must we?

Int.: You have another topic?

Sub.: We could talk about how pretty the view is?

Int.: This seems suboptimal, and less likely to prompt a response in the subject.

Sub.: But you always talk about research. It's boring.

Int.: Clearly you have not been listening properly. Let me begin. Research-



At this point the experiment was completely ruined when an outside influence ruined the experiment's conditions. I have included some details. SOME. For historical record.



OUTSIDE INFLUENCE
(Hereafter, nuisance): HI!

Sub.: (Jumps.) Aaaaagh!

Int.: (Has a thoroughly understandable reaction of shock at an unexpected stimuli that is higher than the subjects' anyway) Aaaaagh!

To clarify, my verbal response was also deeper and more masculine-sounding than the Subject's.

Nuisance:
Watcha doin'?

Int.: Go away, Four.

Nuisance: Are you doing your little experiments again?

Int.: I said go away.

Sub.: Why'd you sneak up on me too? Why does EVERYONE sneak up on me?!

Int.: This is important work. You are ruining the data.

Nuisance: Data like you're scared of the dark?

Sub.: What?

Nuisance: (Like the ASSHOLE that he is) Oh, you didn't hear? Nine locked himself in the fridge and got so scared he started crying!

Sub.: (laughs, proving himself an utterly useless subject and utterly incapable of aiding the progress of research, ever) No way!

Nuisance: Mrs Pleuron had to get him out and give him a cuddle like a baby-



At this point, I decided the experiment was wasted and there was no reason to continue. I then left. No matter what the Nuisance claims, I did not hit him, neither did I call him an asshole, and I especially did not run away crying. That others choose to believe his ludicrous claims is a sign of their lack of intellectual rigour. Experiment terminated.


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I think I'm reeeeeally going to like writing Nine, he's such a little douche! But yeah, first omake. Threadmark please @TehChron @ReaderOfFate @Alectai !
 
Cao Wei 3 - First Steps
Cao Wei
First Steps

Time passed, after that night I'd found the 'Heat' Stone, which now sat hidden beneath my sleeping mat. I hadn't been caught sneaking back with it, and Grandfather Shen had seemingly not noticed the 'Heat' within the stone. Thus, it seemed like I'd gotten away with it. All was fine.

Then, one day, I noticed my mother coughing. Now, coughing in this dust-filled pit is not something that normally would be worth noting, but… something about it put me on edge. It was too… harsh for my mother, too rasping. So, I looked over, and what I saw…

Now, by this point, I must mention that the 'Heat' I saw in everyone liked to… move in certain ways. It had paths that it would take, slowly pulsing through others bodys with their heartbeat. Right then, though… that Heat was pooling up in my mother's chest, and the flow seemed… sluggish. Almost stagnant.

So, of course, I asked her if she felt alright. "Mother, are you alright?" I asked her, as any filial son would.

"I feel fine, Cao Wei. Go fetch some water for me," she responded.

That was it, for a time. Her tone brooked no attempts to push the issue, and despite the oddities I noted, I could easily rationalize them away as just something weird that would go back to normal in time. But… it did not. Over time, she began to grow sickly, and her breathing became labored. Where once she could go an entire day of work without a labored breath, now her limits would crush her just from carrying water from the well. And her Heat pooled, and stagnated, and began to shift to something else.

Rot-Lung, we called it. A sickness of the breath, that choked you slowly over time as your body turned against you. Humans in their verdant lands would be able to cure it, but us Goatmen… we could not. If you were struck by it, it was a long, slow, painful death. The Nannies could only tut, and try to make her as comfortable as possible, with the village slowly taking on her portion of the work.

It wasn't enough. And so, I went to the door of my Grandfather's residence, and kowtowed. "Grandfather Shen," I pleaded. "Please listen to this unworthy one. My mother, your daughter, is falling sick from Rot-Lung, and requires your Immortal assistance to survive the year!"

For a quarter-passing of the sun, it seemed my pleases would be unanswered… but then, slowly, the door creaked open, and as I raised my head I got a glimpse inside. What I saw…

Well, Kid Shen never allowed anyone else to watch him Cultivate. He said it was because the knowledge gleaned from watching it would destroy us. Really, it was probably because he feared someone gaining any ability to Cultivate, and threatening his place as the Cultivator of Stable. But as I glimpsed in awe the Heat pulsing and flowing through his body, I wondered if perhaps there was truth to his reasoning at all.

Even if something was… off about how the Heat flowed. Instead of flowing from point A to point B like it did in all other bodies, it instead took… odd routes, circuitous, as he drew Heat from a pair of small stones and cycled it around his body. Some of the paths they took… they most certainly could have tanken much better paths, couldn't they? Why had they moved in such a way?

There had to be answers to them, but that could wait. Just the sight of Kid Shen drawing that Heat into himself, cycling it… was this the source of his power? The Heat I saw within all?

...It was worth thinking about later.

What I saw lasted precious few moments, though, as Kid Shen lifted his hand from the stone and stood up, turning toward my kowtowing self. "So. My daughter has fallen sick, has she not?" He asked, gruffly. He was a grizzled old goat, with the head of an old billy ram, and legs like mine. "Very well then. I shall grant her and you a fragment of my valuable time."

He stood, and beckoned for me to stand and lead him to the bedside of my mother. Soon, he was standing over her as she rested on her sleeping mat, eyes closed and breathing labored. For several breaths, he just studies her, and I dare to hope.

"Have the Nannies of the village done all they can?" He asks, and I feel my hopes wither.

"Y-yes, honored Grandfather," I replied.

"Then that is all that can be done," he gruffly responded, turning away from her. "Her life has become poison to her body. Her death is all but guaranteed."

"But, Honored Grandfather-" I begin to protest, but am cut off.

"You dare?! I have already stated the truth! None within this land possess the power to cure such a condition - just make your peace with it!" Grandfather Shen snapped, before brushing by me to return to his Cultivation, leaving me to seethe.

The worst part was… he was right. Despite the un-filial thoughts running through my head, he was right. If he was unable to help, then that was that. There would be no-one capable of helping…

Unless… if I were to somehow reach Goatpen… perhaps the Trinity there might possess some secret knowledge that would help his mother. But there would be no way they'd listen to some random mortal… and right now, to cross the desert as a mortal would be difficult. If I was a Cultivator like my Grandfather, that would be one thing, but-

A Cultivator.

The Heat Stone I had… perhaps…

Darkness soon fell, and I sat in privacy, the Heat Stone in the palm of my hand. There would be no going back, if I did this. Stable could not support a second Cultivator, and Grandfather Shen guarded his position as the Villages Cultivator zealously. Were I to ascend… I would need to leave immediately, and only return once I had obtained a cure. Was it worth it?

...The only thing binding me here, really, was my mother. As long as she lived… I would be fine, somewhere else.

I closed my hand around the Heat Stone, and the Heat within flowed into my body.
 
Easiest way to eat the Jingshen's margins would be to hike up the tariffs and offset it by selling our own cheaper Spirit Stones from the new mines in the Ten Thousand Pits, imo.

We also need to learn more on the details of Jinshen planning because we've been blinded to them for the past century after losing our Intrigue Elder and replacing them with Xinya, who had a malus.
That would be the easiest way to bite at their margins, that's true, but I'm worried that would be more of a nibble. We don't have anywhere near as many mines as Jingshen (I think), and we need drastic measures in order to have them eat a negative flow.

You're not wrong that we desperately need information on Jingshen, but I'd rather keep assuming that we have no breathing room until all the low-hanging fruits, all the large bites we could take, are taken.
 
Also if all doesn't go to hell, our intel penalties expire at the end of the turn 10. So we should start getting more regular info on them.
 
But that was fine, because the Ninth Prince was more than happy to educate him. "Yeah. You're not a monster or anything. You're just an idiot."

Almost immediately, the Ninth Prince was at the center of a perfect ring of sabers, each held by a Saber Palace cultivator, and each cultivator charging a technique of some sort. The saber immediately in front of him was the one wielded by Fang Tai himself, whose eyes blazed with fury as he bit out a single word. "Explain."
... Strongly reminded of the Smug Cat Surrounded By Knives meme.

Gotta hand it to them though. At least they didn't do that immediately, when he just approached them, and waited until at least Princey had insulted him before doing this. :V
[To that, I say this.]

The God of War spread his arms wide, looking up to the heavens, fanaticism written all over his face as his saber began to move on its own, hovering point up over its wielder's head, slowly rotating over and over and over and over again.

[Those fools didn't believe in the saber hard enough.]

The saber continued to rotate, picking up speed and generating holy light, until it was a single unbroken pillar of metal and light stretching up into infinity.

[The Saber is truth, the Saber is life, the Saber is death, the Saber slaughters the demon and suppresses the devil, stifles the blood and chokes the plague, cuts the strings of fate and pierces through space and time! It is the source of all that is needed for cultivation, the ultimate equalizer!]

The Shura God rose up into the air, earth shattering around his feet as he kicked off the ground, earth that was drawn into the saber pillar like iron drawn to a magnet, earth that was devoured by the saber until there was nothing left.

[TALENT?! TALENT IS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE GIFTS OF THE SABER! RESOURCES?! THE SABER IS THE ONLY RESOURCE YOU NEED! THE SABER WAS ALL THOSE MORTALS NEEDED TO CULTIVATE, FAITH IN THAT MOST PERFECT OF WEAPONS ALL ONE NEEDS TO SLAUGHTER ONE'S ENEMIES!]
... Ah, I see. His viewpoint is that... that nothing is impossible with sufficient will, faith, and dedication.

That, if they had just believed in the saber hard enough, that if they had just wanted to survive hard enough... they would have. Gotten strong and survived, that is. And so to him, it's like they didn't want to survive. Maybe he's even puzzled and shaking his head at them dying. 'Surely if they cared more, for their own lives or their family, they would just have tried harder?' 'I gave them a fishing manual -- sadly I couldn't be there to teach them how to fish myself, I have to go kill all the sharks and so on -- so why didn't they learn to fish?'

This, needless to say, has some issues as a perspective. :V For instance, the fact that not everyone is capable of that. And that people should be defended if they can't do that. (And also, even if some of them had been bullshit enough to be able to jump to FB in two decades, that still doesn't stop you from running into a Mid FB and losing. Or getting surrounded by a bunch of FB and losing. Or losing everyone you cared for, because they're still mortals even if you're not.) That's why you defend mortals, defend the defenseless -- because they're defenseless.

There's truth to the perspective that people should take care of themselves. That self-reliance is a virtue. And in fact, that you should raise a people who are self-reliant and responsible and virtuous. And that people should be able, and willing, to defend themselves.

But, like, this ain't it in terms of execution.
He took a breath.

"Firstly we come to the truth of the Body. The Body is the physical, the thing formed and shaped by the Law."

He felt a vague displeasure in the skies above him. His understanding of the Laws of Heaven and Earth was miniscule at best, and even cloaked as he was... No, better not to reveal more secrets.
... So apparently, the Heavens literally smite you if you share advanced knowledge of the local supernatural kung fu magic.

Holy moly and hoo boy.

That... deserves more words than I can put to this, but, I am lacking in words.

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... Thinking about it... Some of that is probably not just "keep people ignorant and weak by preventing the strong from uplifting". Some of that is indeed instead the ongoing theme of "People at their level should keep fights to their level" in this writing genre and such.

That is, it's the attempt, and the running theme we've seen, of things in their level being kept to their level.

It's why the Golden Devils didn't just get curbstomped by Spirit-Severing Cultivators (or Dao-Seeking, or greater, as apparently the Sea-Conquering Army used to look at Spirit-Severing Cultivators as "Hah, get out of here with that weak bullshit") from the other seas, once they were beaten down to the Virtuous Flipper Region. It's why you don't have Immortals coming down and punking our below-Nascent Souls.

And similarly... If the strong could just upraise the weak instantly, that would also make it so that the strong would interfere in lower levels.

... And also, the strong would gain a huge advantage in their arena of combat too. Because they will have swiftly raised up peers to them, and thus could swiftly replenish their numbers and overwhelm their peer enemies.

We see some of that undermined with the Blood Path though. It's meant to be able to have people rise up to the heights of power. It's meant to have people be able to, in some way, benefit from it. It's just... it's a really shitty path and is fucking evil and has a million awful atrocities or perversions or problems. And probably doubles as a lightningrod for Heaven's attention, to keep Heaven's eyes off of other things.


It's just that overall, it also works out to 'keep everybody in their place.' Perhaps it's the belief that 'ideally, nobody would be tremendously strong.' 'And everybody will just live under the auspices of my world, the Turtle World, and everything will be fine.'

Of course, the Turtle World is the same Heavens that literally rewards people for killing us, so it's a pretty shitty person isn't it.

The Heavens of the Turtle Emperor probably figures that since it has to deal with the fact that there are going to be some people willing to cultivate anyway, at least it'll try to control the ways they grab power. And so it lays out incentives and punishments here and there. And of course it suppresses anybody who could overthrow or challenge or change the system as a whole, like the Sea-Conquering Army and the Blood Path. ((And I suspect both are rebelling in some way against some great cosmic order. Just, the Demonic Soup Chef is also willing to commit any atrocity if it gets him closer to the win. And also, who knows what kind of rule he would establish or what he would do if he ever won. Who'd want to see a guy like that win. If he's willing to do anything to win, what is he willing to do after he won?))
 
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... Ah, I see. His viewpoint is that... that nothing is impossible with sufficient will, faith, and dedication.

That, if they had just believed in the saber hard enough, that if they had just wanted to survive hard enough... they would have. Gotten strong and survived, that is. And so to him, it's like they didn't want to survive. Maybe he's even puzzled and shaking his head at them dying. 'Surely if they cared more, for their own lives or their family, they would just have tried harder?' 'I gave them a fishing manual -- sadly I couldn't be there to teach them how to fish myself, I have to go kill all the sharks and so on -- so why didn't they learn to fish?'

This, needless to say, has some issues as a perspective. :V For instance, the fact that not everyone is capable of that. And that people should be defended if they can't do that. (And also, even if some of them had been bullshit enough to be able to jump to FB in two decades, that still doesn't stop you from running into a Mid FB and losing. Or getting surrounded by a bunch of FB and losing. Or losing everyone you cared for, because they're still mortals even if you're not.) That's why you defend mortals, defend the defenseless -- because they're defenseless.

There's truth to the perspective that people should take care of themselves. That self-reliance is a virtue. And in fact, that you should raise a people who are self-reliant and responsible and virtuous. And that people should be able, and willing, to defend themselves.

But, like, this ain't it in terms of execution.
If I wasn't already busy with a seed I might just try making a sword cultivator that had their start among those mortals. Or maybe not. It would likely be funny for the first few posts and then stop being interesting.
 
Rina Callista 39 - The Old Devil's Wisdom
Rina Callista
The Old Devil's Wisdom

The news that Old Gold was running a series of lectures in the lead-up to the Trials was a surprise--a glad one, but a surprise nonetheless. The Archgetes was a busy man who could rarely spare more than a few minutes at the beginning of each year to induct new Aspirants--that he had managed to shake some loose to guide the next generation like Rina's own had been instructed?

It was nice! Pleasant--Rina would even go as far as to call it a great opportunity to the new Aspirants! But as a Legate, it was also sort of a… Marginal gain to be had?

That was Rina's perspective for a while--but then she learned of the Special Lecture being offered, thirteen years before the start of the Trials. The cost was three-thousand Contribution Points for a Qi Condensation Legionnaire--and one-hundred-thousand Points for Foundation Establishment.

Very steep, but with all the work Rina had been doing--her successfully claimed Bounties in the Song Empire Campaign, and her work in Three Frog City back in the Blood Cannibal War… She could just about squeeze it into her budget--it'd clean out her savings and leave her hand-to-mouth again like she was in the first few months after her Breakthrough, but she'd pulled it off once before--what's another stretch of student poverty before specialized instruction from an experienced Nascent Soul?

Which didn't make it hurt any less to see her accounts bottom out again, but it would be worth it--it had to be worth it!

She did notice the five star rating on the lecture of course--a rating reserved for highly dangerous work that survival could not be guaranteed for--but Old Gold was a canny instructor! He'd certainly know precisely what his students were capable of and wouldn't risk their lives in a lecture.

The golden slab, etched with the seal of the Optimatoi and the Archgetes signature arriving in the mail ended up having more heft then Rina expect it to--but she supposed you needed special security measures with this kind of get together--and the instructions clearly stated that it worked like the Contribution Board and accepted a strand of Will to match with the records of the recipient--ensuring that no enemies of the Clan would be able to infiltrate--generally suicide of course, but you never knew what treasures some lunatic might have dug up that could inconvenience a Nascent Soul.

So it was that Rina made a trip to the Dawn Fortress, to participate in a series of lectures that would define the sharpest of the Imperial Optimatoi's younger generation.

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Over a thousand people!

Rina stood among the others of Foundation Establishment at the front of the pack--the horrifying expense entry still successfully paid for by at least fifty people! That was five million Contribution Points from them alone! Then if you included the pack of Qi Condensation Legionnaires (And if she wasn't mistaken, even a few Aspirants!) behind her, that was…

Goodness, almost Ten Million Contribution Points worth of value into this lecture! Rina supposed though that this was only what was expected of a Nascent Soul's time.

Her heart skipped a beat then--her Pillar shuddering as it felt the barest wisp of an intruding Dao--a cloying warmth that enveloped the courtyard before the Fortress proper, and her eye glanced upward--noting briefly how even the sun seemed to have darkened by a trace.

He descended from above, clad in robes hewn from Night, his features pitted and wrinkled with age--a skinny scarecrow of an elder who looked like he should be a foot into the grave as it is.

He was Archgetes Manuel Konstantinos, Regent-Lord of the Imperial Optimatoi in the absence of the Lost Imperator, the Unseen Whisper and Envoy of Heaven's Shadow. Great Protector of the Desert and Master of All Legions.

But yes, if you were completely deaf, dumb, and blind, you could mistake him for a common old man well into his retirement.

He descended just low enough to remain above even the tallest of the Optimatoi present, before settling down into a cross-legged seat, in utter defiance of gravity and physics as commonly applied to those who weren't demigods. He surveyed the attendees with his eyes, as all noise and chatter came to a halt with the mere weight of his attention.

More than just his attention--if Rina was any indication, he was literally dampening the noise in the area--a display of control Rina couldn't even dream of matching on the best day of her life.

He spoke.

"In a little over a decade, the Trials put before us will arrive. I do not doubt that one in five of you who stand here today will be dead after them, for all your talent. You are ill-prepared, though better prepared than we were a century ago."

He inclined his head slightly in recognition of the fact--it was a grim statistic--a reminder that even a Good set of trials left a full fifth of the Optimatoi in their graves, outrun and brought low by Hunters well beyond their hope to resist.

A bad set could finish the Clan--extended as it was integrating the new territories.

But that was why Rina was here--even a slight edge could be decisive when the stakes were this high.

"You will have heard tales. A few of you will have lived through those times. The Clan suffered, and then came the good times. Conquest and growth, new mines and new talents rising up. New relationships with the Righteous Path. Some of you have even travelled into the Great Battlefield, and not been killed on sight for the colour of your skin and hair. The Optimatoi suffered greatly so that you could rise."

When he put it that way…

Rina could see it--as bad as the Trials had been, they were Survivable, and the strength and cunning of the Clan was enough to not merely weather the trials of the subsequent century--but to actually gain considerable ground!

The Archgetes descended to the ground, alighting as he gave what was a surprisingly reassuring smile. The undulations of his Emanation though…

Oh no, this was going to be the moment where he explained why this was a Five Star Danger Level, wasn't it?

"Now you will suffer so that the Clan may rise."

That's not how you reassure people at all Archgetes!

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The lecture began with an exposition on the Trinity of Things--Body, Dao, and Soul, the nature of Qi and its interdependence with the other aspects of the world to create all manner of wonders in the world.

Interestingly, there seemed to be a reaction from the firmament when he drew a line of association between the Body and the Laws--how the Body was shaped and formed from it. He shortly after pivoted away from that topic--causing the sense of tension that Rina's Pillar managed to touch on the edges of to disperse--but it seemed important.

Did it have something to do with how the Curses of the Heavens seemed to be aimed at those who bore the Blood of Bronze? The Blood should be an aspect of the Body after all, and if the Body is closely tied to the Laws… That could explain a great deal. She'd need to meditate on that in her own time and see if that train of thought goes anywhere.

His topic on the muck and impurities that existed by default, and how purifying the Body was always the first step in Cultivation--no matter the source--seemed to bear that out. But it begged the question of 'Just what are these Impurities anyway?' She remembered the weird gunk that kept popping up when she made good progress in Qi Condensation, but didn't pay much mind at the time.

If the Body is forged from the Laws, but the Body begins flawed… What does that say about those self same laws?

Rina was pulled from her contemplation though as the Archgetes returned to the ground--his defiance of the very principles he spoke of a tantalizing clue as to the nature of the world.

"I cannot solve all your problems, nor do I intend to. Still, one of the greatest problems of any cultivator is exploring where the true limits of your body lie. The hairsbreadth between where you exert the maximum power and your meridians burst, leaving you crippled and mortal. For most, they simply excavate nine-tenths of their power, and eventually another nine-tenths of what remains. Today, we will be reaching your absolute limit. It will be a small increase in power, but a real one."

Rina's attention sharpened to a needlepoint--she knew what he was referring to. Her meridians pulsed in remembered pain of that moment in Sha Yu City, where a Nascent Soul had sought her death. She had dug deep, threw all the power she dared into the teeth of certain doom--but she would have been in no condition to continue fighting if any other dangers were in a position to capitalize.

If she could learn to push those limits without taking such risks--that would do nothing but good.

She felt the Archgetes power descend, his attention split thousandfold as a mote of his power latched onto each of his current students. He was going to observe everyone with this? Where was this going anyway?

"Circulate your Qi. Slowly increasing from your normal amount, you are to fill your dantian to bursting, channel as much as you can through your meridians. Continue increasing the amount. You will feel pain, you will feel as though you are about to shatter and die. If you stop before I stop you, you will be dismissed from the lecture and may not return."

Oh.

No pressure. Just… Wind things up until he stops you.

Rina restrained her urge to sigh, and settled instead into a meditative posture. Her Qi surged within her body, beginning at her dantian--that strange pseudo-organ in the abdomen that served as the anchor to one's own Cultivation Base. The sea of crystal-clear Qi within it roused to action on request, utterly clear of even the slightest trace of impurity, and flickering with golden light--altered by the proximity to the great astral ring hanging above the sea, fed by great waterclimbs--absorbing power from the Qi Sea and emitting it once again--some power always lost in this circulation.

Rina willed it, and the ring began to slowly rotate--she envisioned the spray of pressurized Qi leaving her Dantian, entering her Meridian circulatory system. Power entered her body with each breath, with the wastage lost in each exhalation. Meridians of organic bronze shuddered as power flooded into them, flexing and expanding where they must--the ancient blood of the Sea Conquering Army enduring a torrent that would cause any less-blessed Cultivator to burst.

The ring that was Rina's Pillar spun faster and faster, the output climbing as required to compensate for the increased spillage brought on by the increased pressure. She began to feel a sense of pins and needles throughout her body--the usual sign that she was pushing a bit too far and needed to wind things back.

She ignored that instinct--the Archgetes had not yet told her she was at her limit. She continued her circulation of Qi--and the pins and needles escalated into fiery hot pokers through every inch of her Meridians--the heat actually building up to the point where she was starting to feel a little nauseous as it slowly started to impact her other organs.

She continued to ignore the impulse to stop--her Foundation continued to revolve, and the fiery hot pokers jabbed with greater and greater force, her blood starting to reach a boil inside her veins. Was this enough yet? This had to be enough, how was this not enough?

Rina quashed her anxiety with the practice of nearly two centuries of Cultivation, and continued her circulation--her fingers and eyelids twitched and she could almost swear she saw her tears starting to turn to steam and her body was just too small for her she needed to burst out of i~~

"Stop"

Her circulation froze, and Rina gasped for air as the Archgetes bid her stop. Her nerves were twitching! And this couldn't have done good things for her organs either.

How was this a good idea? There's no way this kind of technique didn't leave residual damage!

And yet--as she turned her mind's eye inwards to assess her current state… As sore as she felt, she… Hadn't actually hurt herself?

Oh sure, her body temperature was running nearly a dozen degrees too hot and her nerves were screaming in terror… But nothing was actually damaged--her peerless constitution had weathered the strain with admirable grace.

"Again"

Rina gulped, and recovered her composure--letting her Pillar begin its rotation anew. It seemed she was beginning to see one of the downsides to her Paragon Body--she could safely drive her Qi at levels that would kill someone else.

But it didn't make the pain any less!

And yet… Rina felt that suffering pain here--now--in this place, to determine her absolute limit was the safer choice in the end. Even if it was only a single percentile of strength that she could tap using this method--sometimes, a single trace of advantage can make all the difference.

So she continued to complete the exercises, embracing the pain of overheated Meridians and stressed nerves, clinging to the steel core of conviction that had led her to challenge the Five Element Tribulation to support her.

And Rina had endured to the end--one of the eight-hundred remaining when the Archgetes had called to an end for the day's training. Covered in sweat and feeling like she had been fighting for days.

But she had gotten the trick of it in the end--the precise point at which damage would begin to accrue even for her own body.

For even a one percent gain in strength, from a single day? It was worth it.

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The next day had the remaining eight-hundred disciples that remained standing before the Archgetes--the ancient Cultivator standing with his hands folded behind his back--Rina thought she felt a trace of pride from him…

But that might just be Rina's imagination talking, this was only the second of three Lectures after all.

The wizened Elder began his speech.

"The next lecture is simpler. The Soul is the thing that understands and comprehends, the thing that understands the Dao and pursues truth. It does not obey physical laws for the most part, and once coupled with sufficient understanding of the Dao and Qi can exert its will on the world. The thing we tend to think of as the Soul, though, is the connection between Soul and Body. If broken, the body is killed and the Soul goes elsewhere, though I cannot say where. This is the truth of the Nascent Will. It snaps the connection between Soul and Body, leaning on the understanding a Nascent Soul has of that same connection."

This… Conflicts a little bit with what Rina thought she knew about the Soul--but she supposed the Callista House hadn't had a Nascent Soul since Athenia's fall--and most of the records didn't go back that far anyway. At any rate, she doubted the Archgetes would straight up make things up for a test like this.

A connection… Rina recalled the Heavenstages of the Qi Condensation Olympian Keystones. First Purifying the Body--which almost seems like a second pass to remove any remaining impurities that might drag it down? Then purify the body's ability to generate Qi--which ensures that the power generated and stored is as efficient and gentle as it can be--and flows just as smoothly.

Then came Soul Purification--which was shockingly easy when you consider how ephemeral the Soul actually is. Was the term then a shorthand? That the Soul itself wasn't purified so much as its connection was? It would explain why the Twelfth Heavenstage was so easy compared to the Eleventh and Thirteenth that surrounded it--if all you were doing was cleaning up your link to your Soul, it would explain why it was almost as easy as some of the Orthodox Stages--but also so powerless until one reached Nascent Soul themselves.

A thought occurred then. Did that suggest the Thirteenth Heavenstage was the true Soul Purification then? Purifying the Soul's ability to think and conceptualize? Which permitted a much deeper understanding of Dao than should otherwise be available in that critical moment when nothing was yet set in stone?

A perfect Body, and a Soul capable of fully grasping a Dao before so much as one Pillar was established. Was that why the Single-Pillar Method was so potent?

"For our second lecture, I will be strumming on that connection, as though a string on a lyre. Your job is to try and replicate that feeling after I do so. It will be unpleasant and dizzying. For those with the patience, even a Qi Condensation disciple can develop that feeling into an effective suicide art to prevent interrogation. I will disrupt the connection between soul and body three times over three weeks. At the end of the month, if you cannot replicate the feeling, my experience has taught me you are unlikely to do so. If you can succeed, we will proceed to the final lesson.""

Rina looked back up from her reverie, and blanched. The Archgetes was going to play music with their Soul Link? That was going to be…

*Twoooooooonnnnng*

It had been a very long time since Rina had last thrown up.

Heh, that was funny, it sparkled a little bit!

She needed to learn how to do that to herself? On Purpose?

Rina would just… She'd just need to make this work! Somehow! It was her own soul, right? She should be able to make it go 'Twong' whenever she wants for any frivolous little reason!

Heck! Maybe she'd make it a training measure! If she could keep her cool even while 'Twong''ing herself, then she'd be good against any kind of distraction!

Three weeks? She'd master it in one and spend the rest of the time training under those conditions!

She just needed to visualize that link--that band of shining gold at the back of her mind. Just reach out a bit and..

*Twunnngueofogeuo*

Rina blinked a moment later, flat on her face lying in her own vomit, glasses fractured after faceplanting in with full speed.

Okay, maybe this wouldn't be quite that easy.

That wasn't going 'Twong!' at all! That was making a completely different horrible noise!

Was… Was all this training just a scam to cost a lot of contribution points?

No, even if it was, she'd make it work somehow! She had been good at self study even before she was a famous up-and-comer! It was just playing her own link to her soul like a lyre! If she couldn't do at least that much, what was she even doing all of this time?

And so it was, Rina Callista pushed herself back up, wiped her face off, and turned her peerless focus on the new task at hand. Three weeks would be plenty of time, she was certain.

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Three Weeks did--in fact--happen to be a gross overestimation. Once Rina had a little practice reaching into her soul link, making it go *Twong* on command wasn't actually too hard! Disorienting--yes, but not difficult. Her Qi was a work of art! And her Soul-Link was something that it was surprisingly easy to get a grasp of in its current state.

Was this the upside of Soul Purification?

Not one to rest on her laurels though, Rina took that idea and extended it further. If the Soul had to be reached through that link, then wouldn't one be able to adequately defend against Soul Arts by making it go *Twong* in response? Nobody below Nascent Soul really knew what they were doing when it came to the Soul after all--based on the fact everyone had it wrong all this time after all.

So Rina practiced, she trained, she mastered making her Soul go *Twong* and *Twang* and eventually even cracked *Tween!* after great effort and at least one all nighter in a frenzied fit of study in the Dawn Fortress' library

It was all very disorienting and she had thrown up more than a few times, but that was okay--this was all about pressing one's limit!

The fact she still stood before the Archgetes after the second great winnowing--the once mighty company of over twelve-hundred reduced to just over two-hundred was proof positive that she knew what she was doing.

There was a definite trace of pride on the Archgetes face here--but also a sense of gravity that had been lacking in the past few lectures. Rina had been waiting for the other shoe to drop since this began--the reason why a common lecture was rated as a Five Star Danger. She suspected she was about to find out.

"You now know how to manipulate the connection between your soul and body the tiniest amount. For those who have stepped through the 12th Heavenstage, your connection is many times stronger, a pure link between soul and body. This is why you mastered this art in hours instead of weeks. Some of you may have come to it on your own."

Mostly what Rina had already suspected--he gave three weeks, but she had the basics down within a day and had spent the rest of the downtime extrapolating on it to develop two more 'Resonances'--sure, it was probably not going to be relevant. But maybe it would be, and if that was the case, Rina would definitely prefer to have more options than fewer.

But she felt the sky darken further, as the Archgetes continued his speech.

"Now we come to the simplest truth. You who remain are among our greatest talents, and recent events have shown me that you are not immune to the assault of a Nascent Soul. While you cannot hope to survive a serious attack without protection, you might preserve your life for a few key seconds, or perhaps resist a mass-scale attack on an army. To assist you with this, I will be bringing your soul-connections to the breaking point. This will challenge not only your manipulation of your soul as previously taught, but also your will. Without sufficient will to persist, your connection between body and soul will shatter, and you will die. I cannot teach you to resist such attacks without truly threatening you with death. My blows will be at the absolute limit of what you can endure, and if you are not confident in the strength of your will, simply leave. I will not hold it against you."

Oh.

That was why.

Rina recalled the events of Sha Yu City--the assault of Kinslaughterer and her own brush with mortality--all of the talent in the world useless in the face of a Nascent Soul with killing intent. That she survived was more an element of the rudimentary instruction she had received on that very scenario than any talent on her part.

Many of the remaining disciples withdrew at that offer--there was training and then there was being subject to the killing power of a Nascent Soul. Even if it was not struck with full might--it was still a force that no mere martial artist could hope to endure.

From over two hundred, merely one-hundred-fifty remained. Rina among them--for she knew more than any other that she was on a point of no return. Perhaps Kinslaughterer singling her out was a one-off…

But that was only while she was still an ordinary Foundation Establishment disciple. Even if she gained nothing more from the Single-Pillar Method than what she had already seen and inferred--bringing that onto the stage of Core Formation…

She'd be a major target--worthy of a Nascent Soul's attention.

So she took a deep breath, steadied herself--and shifted her inner-eye to the connection she had experimented with all of this time. She memorized the resonances mastered in the past three weeks--if she could deflect the attack even by a moment.

Rina thought she felt a hint of approval from Old Gold as he slowly raised his hand--Rina braced herself.

He clenched his fist.

*night fell without mercy upon the newborn realm, the primitive inhabitants and childish spirits ceasing their games as they turned their eyes upon the empty sky above. clever wind baffled, and without an answer for this phenomena--though he promised he would have something soon. void was the first to witness the approach--mustering its ward as it did against other threats. strange harmonies played off of the clash of stellar radiation and the skin of void's ward--a measure to deflect more fierce blows.

it lasted precisely three nanoseconds before void died, crushed by the weight of the withered hand of darkness that engulfed the world. pulling it from its orbit--almost admiring for a moment.

then the fist clenched. wind cast aside, torn asunder in its force. flame rendered still and dead, water evaporated. stone alone endured as it always had when the ancient devil finished its task and moved on. the orb scarred and battered, perhaps never to rise aga--*


Clarity slowly returned to Rina's mind as her eyes slowly began to recover--the taste of blood and snot and tears in her lips as her mind floated in a haze of bewilderment.

That?

What… What even was that?

"I will return in three months. Those who truly wish to follow down this path, come see me then."

Rina blinked, and tried to raise her head to meet the face of that… Thing

That? That was a Nascent Soul?

A quiet, halfway hysterical giggle spilled from Rina's lips as Old Gold left the disciples to their own devices. She thought she was coming a long way by now! She thought that maybe things were okay--that she managed to survive the attention of one that sought her death, maybe she could stand against one!

But there and now--she had seen the truth. Against a Nascent Soul, the only hope you had was to die slightly slower, in hopes one on your side will save your life.

It wasn't anything to do with you, it was everything to do with them.

She struggled to clench her fingers. When she thought of it that way… What did it matter if she was a little weaker than her generation at any given moment? Everyone was dust to a Nascent Soul.

It was all just games until then--games to prevent the Nascent Souls from waging war until one had an advantage on the other.

Yet so many people died in those games. Where was the justice in that?

Rina gasped as her lungs finally started working again, and coughed out the slurry of fluids that had filled her throat while she was paralyzed. Her arms finally started working, and she rolled herself over, facing the ground.

"Nothing's changed…" She whispers--more for herself than anything else. "Still… Has to be done."

She wiped her face off, and felt feeling return to her legs. "Not… going to go away, just because it's hard."

Rina wasn't finished yet. She wasn't going to be scared off yet--if this was what it felt like to gain the ire of the Region's peak…

It was going to happen anyway.

It was best that she learned how to survive at the hands of one who genuinely didn't seek her death.

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So it was that three months later, the final sixty four stood before the [i}Archgetes[/i]. Pale faced, quivering in some cases, and very much wanting to be anywhere but here.

Rina stood among them, trying her best to keep a good example despite her own raging terror about what would come next. The previous event was just a taste of what the true instruction would incur.

Yet people were still here. Even with that taste of a Nascent Soul's power, they were willing to stand up again.

Rina had never been prouder of her kin.

"Final chance to leave."

Rina gulped, and steadied the layers of defenses she had devised since the sample. Even imagining she could resist a Nascent Soul was hubris--but the words Old Gold had about Will struck her in hindsight.

It wasn't about winning the fight--he wasn't trying to kill the disciples standing before him here after all.

It was trying to fight back that would keep the Will intact. Futile as it may be, the act of defiance was what allowed the Soul and Body to remain linked even under conditions where they should be shattering.

Her eyes widened then--that… That felt important somehow. But before she had a chance to follow that line of thought further…

The blow came down.

*since the last dark era, the peoples of the small world had prepared for the return of the evernight devil. when the sky turned to pitch once more, the people were ready to face it. void dispersed its defenses, concentrating its occlusion to critical points of impact--stalling the great hand for precious moments before reaching his limit. lightning lashed out, the friction between the devil's fingertips and void's body enough to empower it, blasting infinitesimal fragments from the implacable hand before expending his strength and fading.

wind sent word to the other spirits, and when the hand dropped to the world's surface, they were ready to stand in concert. Stone granted shelter to the weaker fighters, guarding them with his immutable body as the devil's hand tore canyons and craters through it. emerging from their places of safety rose the other three elder spirits, flame and water and wind lashing out at the hand, forming binding chains and oscillating blades to rip and tear at the hand. all futile as the spirits died once again. stone stood strong even as the hand sought his heart--and from that came the little peoples of life, many having gained power to fight from the last appearance of the evernight devil. magic techniques and martial weapons rained down on the hand--warriors self detonating on proximity to buy just a fraction of a moment's more time. wise fate directed the final line of defenses as courageous man gathered his strength together, stabilizing his condition as the others stood to fight.

stone's flesh finally broke down, and the hand began to clench upon the heart of the land--but man stood against it. he had no claws to fight, no innate magic or divine body. he was not an undying guardian or a wielder of holy weapons.

but he bore the heart of the land in his breast, and he did not know to submit. forever unconquered--he rose again and again even as his body turned to dust. he rose even as his blood evaporated. he rose even as mind itself collapsed.

for the spirit of man endures, no matter the danger, no matter the threat. and so long as the spirit of man fights on, the world endures.*


The sky was a clear blue as it always should be.

Every particle of Rina's being was pain. her cultivation base was in chaos--and even her Pillar was cracked and unsteady. To speak of the status of her soul-link would be to recite a litany of horrors.

And yet…

She couldn't help but smile a little, even as she tried to pull herself upward. She was still alive, and she didn't even feel driven to madness!

Not bad for… how long was it?

She didn't know--what was time anyway? It was just a ticking little thing that kind of did its own thing.

Didn't matter.

Her euphoria at surviving was dimmed somewhat as she counted the bodies of the remaining disciples… Six less than there were at the start of this… Dead? Mad?

She didn't know yet.

But there was Old Gold, suspended in a meditative position, overseeing everyone.

She… She couldn't really look fondly on him at the moment--she understood the logic behind what he did, she walked into it willingly.

But it was just too raw right now, she'd… She'd get over it--anyone who can't get over a little pain isn't going to get far in Cultivation. But she'd let herself resent him at least for a little while.

She took the opportunity while the other disciples awoke to shore up her cultivation base--to prevent any regression from occurring. She marveled at her newfound control and precision from the lectures of the past… Four months now was it?

It was worth it, she thinks--even if it was awful to go through.

When the final disciple woke up, the Archgetes' eyes snapped open, and he began to speak.

"This will assist you in resisting soul attacks in future."

Rina stifled a scoff at that. Well, of course it would! If you just survived a Nascent Soul applying pressure to your spirit, anything less than that is just kind of tame in comparison, isn't it? There had to be more to it than that.

And she was right--because he smiled--and there was Definitely pride in there this time, no doubt about it!

"You have experienced the tiniest sliver of Nascent Soul cultivation. If you truly seek to climb the heights to immortality, this is the price you must pay."

Rina blinks then, disbelieving as Old Gold turns around and returns to his chambers in the Fortress. He was just going to leave with that?

That was what a Nascent Soul goes through Every day?

The amount of strength that requires… That someone can go through… That--no, wait, it's even worse, he said that was only a sliver!

Rina sighed, and slumped to lie on her back--on her own power this time, instead of from a terrible moment of weakness. She had so far to go before she could even think about making her dreams reality.

She couldn't let this peek at the top deter her.
 
Carvos - Another day for Hera
Another day for Hera


Hera let out a slow breath letting it out slowly before breathing in Qi through her nose. Letting it circulate throughout her body pushing her cultivation a little further along the path to immortality.
She could feel her Doa whisper to her the healing and creation aspect was warm, gentle and kind like her mother, the destroyer aspect was like her father violent sudden and protective and final but never cruel.

Hera was in Carvos home meditating to recover her energy after healing carvos who had gone to the lecture. That lecture had been intense she had hardly needed to force the battle mad fool to come along as receiving a lecture from the Archgetes. The lature had been going smoothly as once again the battle-hungry gorilla proved that things such as pain or fear did not deter him in the slightest. The second part of the lecture had proved easier for her than Carvos but somehow he had managed it.
However, it was the last part of the lecture that had been terrifying. Hera had nearly soiled herself at the sheer pain. While Carvos had attacked the Archgetes Again and again in a howling fury before having to be sedated. While Hera was barely holding on to her composer and life she could just hear him shouting about defending her cuteness or something.


Hera could not help but smile a bit at that and was a bit flattered at Cavos misguided attempt to protect her. It may just be his Doa that had made him act this way but Hera hoped that he considered her that way. It would be nice to have a real friend. Most people found her to be abrasive; her temper did not help it.

There was a groan from Carvos bedroom and Hera ceased her meditations and went to check on the oaf. Hera arrived to see him rubbing his forehead hearing her come in Carvos turned his head his normal fiendish grin was even wider than before.

Hera knowing what he was about to say from that look was halfway across the room smack at the ready before the battle lover had finished half of his stupid sentence.

"That was FUN I am going to enjoy fig…" Smack Heras palm connected with the fools face in such a way that he was sent flying. Though a hole in the wall halfway across the fortress and landing in the training ground Hera leapt after him. She was going to have to fight at full strength as Hera would be damned if Carvos thought about anything but her for a while. A certain grin spread across her face but she suppressed it. She did not know why she had started grinning when it started to happen. But at the moment such questions coil wait as she was going to have Carvos have eyes on her for months. With that, she landed into the training ground ready to begin distracting Cavos from trying to challenge the old gold. Just another day for her and her Battle hungry moron.

@ReaderOfFate freash hot omake i would like to know peoples thoughts on this one
 
So just gonna post a short summary of my Q&A with Occi on discord regarding Wealth since i think we've been misunderstanding stuff.

- Namely, the wealth from Clan Lands is set to 15 regardless of how much land we gain. Which also makes the wealth debuffs more painful then expected.
- Wealth is abstract enough that it will likely scale up to the the Clan. So stuff might be cheaper, but we'll be unlikely to get more wealth unless econ activities are taken
- Blind The Theft - Is an option that increases our Cultivator Cap over increasing the amount of wealth we get

So any future plans might need to take into account that with the debuffs, we only get 13 wealth per turn unless econ activities are taken.
 
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So just gonna post a short summary of my Q&A with Occi on discord regarding Wealth since i think we've been misunderstanding stuff.

- Namely, the wealth from Clan Lands is set to 15 regardless of how much land we gain. Which also makes the wealth debuffs more painful then expected.
- Wealth is abstract enough that it will scale up to the the Clan. So stuff might be cheaper, but we'll be unlikely to get more wealth unless econ activities are taken
- Blind The Theft - Is an option that increases our Cultivator Cap over increasing the amount of wealth we get

So any future plans might need to take into account that with the debuffs, we only get 13 wealth per turn unless econ activities are taken.
Thank you for posting this, as it differs significantly from how I was understanding things.

I wish we'd known this earlier this turn, as whilst I'm not convinced it would have altered the outcome I think it would have changed the discussion around sending our array engineers to the SPS in return for forgiving all our debts.

I think this is also important to bear in mind when considering the inefficiency penalty.

@occipitallobe In light of this information, could you put a standing option in the turn plan for removing the inefficiency penalty. I know the option exists but it seems to be something we'd have to remember to write in. It would also be good if we had a standing (crossed out due to cost) option for repairing the 888 technique palace, to remind us of the benefits of saving up.[/QUOTE]
 
Thank you for posting this, as it differs significantly from how I was understanding things.

I wish we'd known this earlier this turn, as whilst I'm not convinced it would have altered the outcome I think it would have changed the discussion around sending our array engineers to the SPS in return for forgiving all our debts.

I think this is also important to bear in mind when considering the inefficiency penalty.

@occipitallobe In light of this information, could you put a standing option in the turn plan for removing the inefficiency penalty. I know the option exists but it seems to be something we'd have to remember to write in. It would also be good if we had a standing (crossed out due to cost) option for repairing the 888 technique palace, to remind us of the benefits of saving up.
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No worries. I had the same misunderstanding until i asked Occi about Blind The Theft and the lack of wealth gain from the new lands since i was rereading old stuff and came across how a key part of how Blind the Theft was picked was under the assumption that it increased wealth gain for us.

And like i said. It also makes the debuff a bigger issue that what we thought since it's eating into our max cap
 
Adhoc vote count started by RebelYell on May 23, 2021 at 9:35 AM, finished with 70 posts and 27 votes.


Seem's to be a bit of a lull with map votes but just so everyone know's there's a tie between Noble Knowledge and Magic Oak.
Whereas Spirit Oasis is leading by 3 against runner up 12 City Alliance.
 
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