Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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Yes, which barely gives us about enough time to raise a successor to take his place in the Council.

A rather critical issue given our current shortage of Core Formations at the moment

I mean, for all we know we can still keep Heraclius alive for a thousand years if we are willing to pay the price.

He is slightly above his natural lifespawn for his grade but other methods to keep him alive have a maximum efficiency of 5X the natural lifespawn so while I don't expect us to be able to keep him alive for 3000 more years a few centuries to a thousand years might well be possible.
 
Wait, I just realised Heraclius survived that tribulation at the trial???
Damn..... We should get life saving treasures to most elders for the next trial..... Or the one after that, if we get there.....

Also, what kind of treasure did he had, that worked whole he was knocked out?
 
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Kind of spinning off the current conversation, could we spend a Manuel action to start looking for candidates to make nascent soul? If he were to put together a short list of possible candidates and take them on as disciples, we could farm for nascent souls over time without risking our current protostrator. The opportunity cost is still an issue, granted, but we'll be spending it to start actively looking for a successor/backup to Manuel and negating one of the lose conditions for the quest as a whole (the clan can continue as long as it has *a* nascent soul, after all).
 
That's what the constant cultivation lecturing is for (along with an easier tribulation). @occipitallobe, how many turns total can we extend his lifespan if we burn our lifespan treasures, is it possible to acquire more, and is it possible to ask for what the odds of success would be for this plan?

The odds of success would be quite low - Heraclius is a very poor candidate to try and ascend to Nascent Soul. He lacks the resolve to shatter his Core, which is the main thing.

It's pretty clear that Nascent Soul cultivators are a major measure of clan strength and translates into a lot of clout in negotiations (as well as extra tribute when we invite everyone to come celebrate). It might also translate into additional actions (if we get extra actions by having an extra Nascent Soul, I don't know). It's also the case that we're pretty much gutted for high realm experts right now and if this works we switch from being in a bad position to being in a strong position. Weakening tribulations also means we can get Core Formation experts more easily in addition to the extra Nascent Soul.

May as well ask @occipitallobe what having an extra Nascent Soul cultivator would do for us.

An extra Nascent Soul cultivator means an extra Nascent Soul Action every turn. In a purely mechanical sense, it's a 50% boost to your core set of choices each turn. In political terms, it offers you a lot of safety, a lot of power, and the knowledge that you are very difficult to take down. Killing one Nascent Soul is an exceptionally hard action which requires a lot of things to align, killing two takes you into 'why even bother' territory.

The Jingshen Clan would not be expecting the Golden Devils' poverty curse to suddenly be weakened all of a sudden.

@occipitallobe how well known are the curses or problems of the Golden Devil Clan? That is, does Old Jingshen know that "Ah yeah, the Golden Devils have terrible luck in prospecting or extracting tribute easily/profitably; whenever they got a new territory, the fields and wells and mines tended to dry up." If this is a known thing, then... Jingshen will be going into negotiations expecting the Golden Devils to not get as much benefit out of the lands.

Though to be fair, Manuel might not be expecting this as much himself... ... Then again. It is the Shadow of heaven that is doing this. So if anybody would notice, it would be Manuel.

Missed this one, but only realised today I could go back through my old mentions!

It's fairly well known - any Nascent Soul dealing with you would take it into account.

Do we know what happened with the other candidate for the position?

If she is alive, we might be able to nominate her as his replacement/assistant, unless she got killed or we have a better pick this time.

Olympia is alive, and given the war is wrapping up, Heraclius is likely to be retired very shortly - unless for whatever reason the Clan decides to go to war immediately again.
 
Then she might be a good candidate for nacesent soul, do we have any way to speed up her cultivation and chances with wealth or clan actions (bisieds having manuel lecture her)
Is she ready to ascend, to begin with? Though, if she can take over the military AND ascend...sure, why not? Unless we find someone with better chances.

I still think we should go all in for the trials, leaving the palace after it's done.... But we will see what choices we have...

Maybe, gain wealth on year 160 and train soldiers on 180?
With money spent for whatever helps with the trials..... Maybe the palace if it's cheap enough?
 
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Is she ready to ascend, to begin with? Though, if she can take over the military AND ascend...sure, why not? Unless we find someone with better chances.
Last time i herd about her (about 2-3 turns ago) she was 380 years old and in mid core formetion, so she probably isnt ready but I was asking if can use wealth or clan action to help speed her coultivetion.
 
The odds of success would be quite low - Heraclius is a very poor candidate to try and ascend to Nascent Soul. He lacks the resolve to shatter his Core, which is the main thing.
Thank you for answering my questions. So that would remain the case even if we were to spend a large number of turns cultivation lecturing him? What does manuel's cultivation lecturing talent generally do for such efforts?

Also, how does Lightning from a Cloud affect our ability to raise new Nascent Souls (or have Manuel's cultivation progress a step)? And on that note, what would it take to progress Manuel's cultivation?
 
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That would remain the case even if we were to spend a large number of turns cultivation lecturing him?
Remember the opportunity cost.

It's entirely possible that given the time (perhaps centuries) it'd take to get him ready and for the expense of just extending his life long enough to make that possible, we could already have some other Core Formation Elder ready to go.
 
Adhoc vote count started by LonelyWolf999 on Mar 16, 2021 at 9:06 AM, finished with 288 posts and 60 votes.
 
Adhoc vote count started by LonelyWolf999 on Mar 16, 2021 at 9:06 AM, finished with 288 posts and 60 votes.

Wrong start point!

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Gaius Antonius Omake 16 - Much Ado About Dirt, Part 2
Gaius Antonius Omake #16: Much Ado About Dirt, Part 2

It ended up being a week before the stone creature returned to a form in which Gaius could interact with them, which gave him plenty of time to think, as well as time to muse on his own mortality.

Here he was, entombed miled beneath the earth alongside a powerful spirit. One which, by his reckoning, was far above him in cultivation, so far above that he couldn't be entirely sure which great realm they were in, as they hadn't exerted any real effort in the time he had been here. No one would ever find his body, should The Seeker lose his life here. Search parties might be sent considering his talent, but no serious undertaking could truly be spared for anyone in Qi Condensation.

It didn't bother Gaius, to not be given a funeral; honestly, he expected to die alone in some strange land, chasing his father. Still, to fall prey to his own foolishness and be swallowed up by the ground itself was particularly ignoble, and he did have some pride.

Gaius did his best to put such thoughts out of his mind when he cultivated. Yes, even under these conditions he continued the boring, frustrating work of chipping away at his own limitations. The Tenth Heavenstage was said to take as much effort as the first nine combined, after all, so a little thing like imprisonment couldn't be allowed to cut into that.

Still, he needed to approach the situation as delicately as possible when the spirit awoke, and the rest of his time was devoted to pondering that.

Effigy apparently was the cave itself, having achieved sentience after millenia of bathing in this rich pocket of subterranian qi. The process of resurrection drained the cave of some of its power each time, slowly killing it. Gaius had no idea how to help with that problem, and to be honest, he still wanted the treasure. But he had genuinely come to value his friendship with the spirit, so rather than just escaping, he wanted to genuinely help them in some way.

It was also clear that they didn't simply want to kill him; they could have done that already if they wanted to. Furthermore, they had been morose, not angry, when his deception was discovered. This meant Gaius still had a chance of getting through to them, one way or another. And so, he prepared tea, memorized some talking points and waited for his chance.

On the seventh day, the stones stirred once more, assembling into a blocky, stocky humanoid shape. Taking a few deep breaths to expel a small cloud of cloying, red-brown dust from their body, the spirit reluctantly turned to Gaius, their expression showing clearly that they were still hurting but not as raw.

"So. You wanted to talk? Let us talk."

"I'm sorry, I really am. I didn't think at all about how you might be connected to the cave; I merely thought you dwelled here." Gaius explained, bowing deeply.

"If you were so innocent, then why not just be honest with me?" The spirit pressed him. "Clearly you could tell that the power of resurrection is not so petty a thing."

Gaius stopped for a moment and thought hard on his answer. "I... you're right, honored spirit. I just wanted the treasure. I saw you as nothing more than an obstacle at first, it wasn't until later on that you became a valued companion."

Effigy scoffed. "I'm shocked you'd be so honest with me now of all times. Have you no honeyed words left?"

"No, it's because I respect you."

The spirit sighed; a rumbling, exhausted sound that conveyed the weight of their true age. "How dare you play with my emotions like this..." They muttered, holding their head in their hands. "I think, I hope, that your feelings are genuine; it would hurt too much if they were not."

It struck Gaius just how kind Effigy was. The Turtle World was one where ruthlessness usually paid off, and genuine benevolence was something to be restrained, leashed, given out in small portions. How many times had they been betrayed? How many people had hurt them?

How lonely were they?

"Is there anything I can do for you, Effigy? I want to help you, to prove that I care for you as a friend." Gaius said it on a whim. It was naive and foolish to do, a capitulation to his earthly desires, but it felt good to say.

"In Qi Condensation? No, there is not much that you could do to help me. Come back when you've made a core, then you can help me... or perhaps you'll harvest me." They said bitterly, though there was no venom left in their voice, just melancholy.

"I will. I'll come back for you one day, friend, so please let me leave." Gaius asserted, putting a hand on their shoulder.

"Alright. I have an idea." declared the rock creature, stomping one foot and raising a table and two chairs between them. "I will let you go either way, but I won't let you just take a piece of myself without resistance. Let's gamble on it; you want a second life, so you'll bet the one you have now."

With that, they trudged off to pick out a gameboard from their surprisingly extensive collection.

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The rules were simple. The two would play various games together, and each time he lost, Gaius would lose a large amount of qi. The spirit posited that since they had ten times more experience at playing these games, Gaius would bet one tenth of his qi each time. Upon being completely drained, Gaius would die, but if he won a single time, he would get his prize. Gaius was also free to give up whenever he wished.

"If you defeat me and win this vial back, you're free to go. You may also leave at any point if you give up." Effigy concluded, setting it down next to their chair.

And so it went, devil and spirit, sipping tea and playing games as they made their deadly gamble, and Gaius quickly realized the wall he was up against. His opponent was masterful at ever single one of these games, having studied countless possible avenues of attack. Yes, it was as if they could Gaius his moves before he even thought of them.

Card games. Dice games. Kingslayer. It didn't matter what it wass, The Seeker lost them all handily, and with each defeat, felt himself grow more weary. By the time the fourth game began, a curious foreign oddity involving black and white stones placed on a grid in formations, Gaius was already in far from ideal condition.

"You said this was called go, correct? How in the world did you even learn about it?" Gaius inquired as he turned a stone end over end in his hand, planning his next move.

"A Seven Colored Seabird I know likes to leave the fish she catches in caves to pickle, and sometimes uses mine. She learned it from a foregin beast with a bowl in his head."

"I see. You seemed like a hermit at first, but you're quite a well-connected person."

"No, I've just lived long enough that some people have decided to put up with me."

And so the games continued without pause, and things were going very bad. Gaius lost another three, and it wasn't even close. He was getting woozy and his vision was beginning to blur, impacting his performance even more. He fished out a cigarette and lit it, hoping to regain some mental focus.

"So, for what reason did you do so much adventuring anyway?" Effigy pondered, turning the game piece end over end in their deceptively agile fingers. "The protection you seek is potent, but you no doubt risked losing the life you already have more than once to find it."

"I've been drafted into a war, you see." The Legionnaire responded, taking a long drag. "I've got to protect myself, even if the commander I'll be working under is one I respect greatly."

"Must be quite a momentous war, if one of your cultivation can't refuse."

"It's not like that, I'm doing it because I want to; we of the Golden Devil Clan prize loyalty above all else. Traitors are harshly punished."

"You say it's because you value loyalty, but then say a lack of it brings punishment. Which is it?" The spirit asked, tilting its head. "I don't understand the appeal of building such a large society."

Gaius stroked his chin in thought for a moment. "Think of it as using the rules to mold people into the right kind of citizen. We teach people to prize loyalty, and if they're loyal they'll listen, so that the loyal become even more loyal. If they're not gien to loyalty n the first place, then the pressure from their peers and the threat of punishment keeps them in line."

"But if it must be taught by those who control bulk of society's capacity for violence, then how is it loyalty?"

"Because it is earned. We provide for our citizens and in turn they learn to be loyal, it's a transaction."

This conversation continued, jumping between several topics, the two going back and forth both in conversation and in the game. Gaius lost two more times, and went through several more cigarettes.

"But is that not a paradox, to Seek the thing you already believe yourself to be?"

"No, it is by Seeking that I become The Seeker. The Seeker is my ideal self, my god, and me. I am not my ideal self or a god. My god is not my ideal self or me. My ideal self isn't me or a god. Yet all are The Seeker."

"So you seek to embody a tri-part entity of your own design? Fascinating. When you die, you will almost certainly reincarnate as a spirit, I think. The metaphysical limitations of humanity do not suit you."

"I'll consider that a compliment coming from you, friend." Gaius nodded, extinguishing yet another cigarette in a glass tray.

Effigy turned their head away, and Gaius got the sense they would have wrinkled their nose if they could.

"Could you plese stop smoking those? They're such low quality. They stink."

"I'm trying to focus! I'm under a lot of stress here, risking my life on these games. Come on, at least let me smoke." Gaius protested with a smirk.

"It's not that you're smoking, it's that you're smoking absolute garbage. Fine, I'll give you some of mine." Effigy conceded, conjuring up a long pipe and getting up to retrieve a bag of some custom blend. "You're a cultivator, have some self respect."

"My, that's extremely generous of you." Gaius remarked, holding out the pipe for the spirit to fill up, then light with a flash of qi.

"Yes, because I'm hoping to butter you up so you'll concede." The spirit explained with pleading eyes. "You look terrible. Please give up now and don't throw your life away."

Gaius went silent, propping an elbow up on the table and leaning over to look at the board from another angle, wondering if he'd missed anything. After another moment of thought, he moved a piece, mounting a cautious advance. Now silence fell over the table, as The Seeker struggled to keep his eyes open. He'd greatly underestimated the exhaustion. This wasn't like using too much qi in fight; Effigy was sucking out portions of his total qi, including that which was keeping him alive. Forget ten losses, he might die from his ninth.

And losing he was. He'd done his best, but his pieces were surrounded - Gaius had perhaps three turns until he was defeated. It was now or never. He pointed at a piece on his side of the board. "I'm going to move this piece one square. That's not my turn, I just moved it illegally last turn." He explained, taking a drag on the pipe.

"I don't think that's correct." Effigy mused, leaning forward to examine the piece. "No, that move was not illegal, you can't-."

He never got a chance to finish, as Gaius exhaled as hard as possible, exerting the full force of his superhuman lungs. The pipe shattered and the still-burning ashes were blasted into the spirit's face. Specifically, the two holes in their head that acted as eyes. The fire, created from Effigy's own qi, burned hot enough to hurt them, causing them to rear back and scream, clawing at their eyes.

Obscuring the spirit's senses would do nothing, as they could observe him through the whole cave. Only pain would work; that's what Gaius had decided. But against such a powerful being, he lacked the ability to even cause them pain. Hence, the plan to burn them with their own qi. If this hadn't worked he would have conceded before the final game. In a flash of explosive movement, Gaius leapt forward and took back the vial of dirt. The stone closed around where it was a scant few milliseconds too late.

"Looks like I win." Gaius said nervously, holding up the siezed vial. "Since we played more than one game, you just said I had to get it back." Spirits tended to operate on exact truths; that was a very common trend with the sapient ones, at least. If Effigy didn't accept then he would have to beg for his life.

The earth rumbled ominously, and a few chunks of rubble rained down from the roof of the cavern. Sweat poured down the man's face as his companion said nothing, seemingly still in shock by what had just happened.

"Yes, that's fair." Effigy conceded, shrugging their massive shoulders and moving to put the game away.

"You're... not mad?" Gaius tentatively put forth.

"No, of course not, I set the rules, why would I be mad?" The spirit responded with seemingly genuine innocence.

Had it actually worked? Was Gaius actually getting away with it? This seemed almost impossibly fortunate.

The rock-person stomped their foot, opening the tunnel back up, and began putting away all of the game boards. "You may leave whenever you are ready."

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After a few hours of letting a Qi Replenishment Pill work its way through his system, then making sure he had everything he needed, Gaius was ready to leave. He turned to Effigy one last time with a contrite look. "I'm sorry things happened this way. I need to have this, but I swear never to take from you again, and never to speak of this place to others who might exploit it."

"Hmph. If you really value me as a friend, then give me a piece of yourself just as I give you a piece of myself." The spirit muttered dejectedly. "At least then you'd understand what you're doing to me..."

"Okay."

"What?" Effigy whipped their gaze around to stare at Gaius.

"Okay, I'll do it. You're my friend. I don't care if you never want to speak to me again, and I certainly won't ask you for treasure again, I'm genuinely glad I got to meet you." Gaius insisted, drawing a knife. "So tell me, how many ounces is enough? I want to prove my determination to you."

"I didn't mean it; there would be the point to such a thing." They said dismissively and crossed their arms. "I wouldn't get much use out of your flesh, not like you'll get out of that soil."

"It's not about use. I want you to understand my feelings better. And more than that, I want to be worthy of this treasure, so I will inflict upon myself the same pain as I have upon you."

"You're insane. I suppose that's why you get along so well with spirits." Effigy muttered, shaking their head. "Very well. Please don't cripple yourself, but if you really wish to leave an offering, go ahead."

The knife flashed, and The Seeker gritted his teeth through the pain, trying not to scream too much.

When Gaius finally limped out of that cave, one pinkie toe lighter and with his hard-earned treasure safely tucked away, he walked with his head held high, for he had gained a second thing. Something not as important in a practical sense but every bit as bolstering to his confidence: a new friend.

Here's the second half of that LST mini-arc. This isn't the last we'll see of Effigy, most likely. At the very least, I have may ideas for what to do with them in the future, but I can't be certain since I don't know what will happen to Gaius.

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Maria 12 - Wall Duty
Wall Duty
Maria Turn 8 Tenth Omake

The legionnaire looked up as Maria approached. He was young, she'd guess – couldn't be out of training for more than a few years, at most. He still had that fresh faced look. Like the world hadn't found a way to get at him yet.

Well, give him time. Some cannibal will take an arm and eat it. That ought to take the shine off him.

Bad joke.

Accurate, though.


"Easy, Legionnaire," she said out loud, raising a hand in greeting. "Just me."

"Senior Maria," he said, bowing slightly. She bit down a sigh. She'd not made captain yet, let alone centurion. All this bowing just felt… wrong. Still. Not his fault.

"Did say stand easy. Drink?" She opened her canteen and waved it a little, wafting the sweet, heavy smell towards him. "Good stuff. Great Drunkard honey wine, if you so fucking please. Merchant I know bought it in Jingshen, sent me a bottle."

"Kind of him," said the legionnaire. She couldn't remember his name. "But I can't drink on duty-"

"Good thing you're not then. I told your captain I'd take a shift, relieve one of you. You get to go sleep in a barracks. Lucky boy." She smiled a little as she said it. He blushed, smiled back, bowed again.

"You are kind, senior." Well. Not trying to fight her. That, at least, was in his favour. She'd had legionnaires waste a good hour trying to argue her out of their shift. She won eventually, but Heaven's guts, it pissed her off. The legionnaire took the canteen from her and supped at it. He handed it back, grinned appreciatively, then coughed as the alcohol hit him. From the sound of it, a donkey kicking him in the face would have been kinder. Maria strangled a laugh.

"You alright, boy?"

"Yes, Se-" he began, before descending back into hacking coughs. "Your merchant friend is… generous," said the legionnaire eventually. This time Maria actually did laugh.

"Lu Xu, his name is. Just scored a contract with the clan. Supplies us luxuries on a very wide scale."

"That is a luxury?"

"Put hairs on your chest and fire in your guts. Best kind of luxury, I'd say." She took a long pull herself, and revelled in the way it burnt. The legionnaire gave her a disapproving glance. She smiled back, disarmingly, but stoppered the canteen and hung it at her waist again. "Sorry. You're right."

That seemed to mollify him a little. He turned back to look out over the plains. The night sky was starting to pale a little as the sun began coming up. The stars vanished one by one, but their reflections stayed a while longer – the smoky torches and bonfires of the cannibal camps. The legionnaire glared down at them for a moment, then back to her. "I think-" he began.

But Maria wasn't looking at him. Instead, they were locked at the swarming horde of dark figures that poured as one out of the camp.

"ATTACK!" she bellowed. "INCOMING ATTACK!"

The cannibals accelerated. The numbers said starved ones, and lots of them; the bastards could afford to throw those at them in such massive, pointless offensives. They'd been fending them off since the siege started.

The Legionnaire had already snapped back into position beside her. The sound of running feet signalled the rest of his formation falling in around them. Maria darted back to free her space up so one of the unit's trained members could fall into it, and settled into a support spot; she wouldn't disrupt their routine there.

Qi cycled. Synchronised. Linked.

A hoplite bloomed above them. Shorter than usual, with broad shoulders and a large, square shield that it immediately settled across the ramparts. It brought its spear up, forward and down, ready to strike down at any who crossed. Up and down the wall, Maria saw other Hoplites flickering into life and settling into defensive stances. They were ready. But from what she could see, it didn't seem to stop the cannibals – they kept up their lunatic charge.

And now the part she hated most; the agonising collection of moments between a formation locking in and contact with the enemy. Each second seemed the stretch out forever, and flash by like a lightning strike at the same time.

This is why we prefer charges.

Yeah. Sounds about right.


She set her teeth, forced her hand to loosen on her spear, and breathed. Any second now. Any second-

Thud. Pressure on the Hoplite's shield. The spear scissoring down through the air. The reverb running up the shaft into its hand as the spearhead stabbed into living flesh. Scream. Pain.

Battle.

She breathed out. This. This she could do. She kept her qi cycles tight and efficient, pouring her power into the hoplite in an even stream.

Another spear strike. Another. Another. The pressure on the shield building – must be getting higher – strikestrikestrike, wet gasping scream, pressure lessens-

Strike.

Strike.

Strike.

Time becomes an abstract, the Hoplite a metronome.

Strike.

Strike.

Strike.

Her eyes glaze over as she forgets to see out of them, and the Hoplite blinks as she (and the unit) gaze down at the rising horde.

Strike.

Strike.

Strike.

She is nothing, a ghost, a part of a whole – only the Hoplite is real.

Strike.

Strike.

Strike.

Stri-lesseningpressurefewerbodiesthespeardivesintotheoceanofacannibalschestandturnsitredbutthevictimlooksupandsmilesteethstainedwithbloodherownandhermealsandstaresatthemandasshefallsbleedingdyingdowndowndowntothegroundbelowshespeaks-
"Fools."
-ke.

Boom.

The explosion rolls across the wall. She feels it run through every inch of her, drive the air out of her lungs. She stumbles. Catches herself. Her connection to the Hoplite is gone, and she's shocked by her own flesh. The unit holds together without her, the great spear still lashing out over and over again, starting imperceptibly to slow.

Maria turns/ed. She doesn't/didn't understand. Then, as her mind scrambles/d back into being one person, unique, alone, and she begins/began to process what her eyes tell/told her, horror set/s in.

The wall. They'd blown a hole in the wall.

It was a fucking diversion.

Let me.

What?

Let me. That's a skirmish. No set formations. They need to be pushed back.


Maria-

Freezes/d. This- she has/had no precedent for this. But it's right.

Eyes flick back- unit captain catches her glance-calculation flickers across his face-"Go."

Decision.

Maria jumps. The fall is vast, but she can handle it-

You're in after the landing. There.

Her/it's/their eyes flick towards the impact spot.

Yes.

Cycles qi down through their legs to take the brunt, push into a forward roll, land on a target-

Cannibal face looks up, shouts, he'll do-

Lets the Red Place guide her spear back into position, just her arms, doesn't need them for this-

Cannibal's shout becomes a scream-

Heel hits his jaw, foot rolls forward to stamp on his face, curl forward even as he breaks beneath her-

Bone-deep shudder of impact-

Roll-

forwardforwardforwardUP-

Now.

And the Red Place takes her.

She watches the scarlet corridors unfurl around her. The bellows and roars of battle gone, in an instant. Cool air, entirely imagined, fills her lungs.

But-

This way.

A thin line of red light flickers into life, unfurling from her heart and leading deeper into the Red Place. She stares. Today is almost entirely impossible, it seems. But fuck it, what else is there?

Follows the line. Walks at first, then jogs, then runs. Halls blur into each other, every detail a patch of half-visible maroon/rose/crimson/viridian as she bolts past.

A doorway she's never seen before, ornate and massive. Blasts through.

Skids to a halt.

In front of her is a vast window of stained glass. Red, of course. It's the only window she's ever seen in this place.

But beyond-

Breath catching in her throat-

-is the battle.

The Red Place is showing her what it's seeing.

Their spear is a dizzying halo around their body, sharp edge slashing as much as stabbing. Cannibals press against it, bleed, fall back to be replaced by another. The blows are sloppy, she realises in some distant, frozen part of her mind. Little precision. Poor form. But it doesn't matter, because they are applied with a ferocity that borders on the sadistic. Guts are slashed open. Hamstrings sliced. Dantians punctured. Meridians hacked.

And against it all, she hears her own voice, layered with that ground-glass burr she hates, howling with mad, hungry laughter.

This is not who she is. This is not who she is.

Maria reaches out for control-

The spearhead dances past an incoming sword cut, slips across the wrist, opens the radial artery, curls back to knock the blade aside-

And stops.

Life or death. No time for distractions.

She sinks down numbly to the floor, and watches.

Time becomes fluid again. Halfway between the immediacy of battle and the agony of waiting. She watches herself fight. In the distance a face flickers past (she half recognises it – Yan, a stranger she'd seen around the city - ) and is gone. It is one among many.

The Place kills and kills and kills. Wounds open up on their flesh in response. It doesn't matter.

The sun is high over the horizon.

The last Starved One dies.

For a moment, nothing.

Let me out.

It's a test. She wants to snatch back control, close her eyes, wait, pray that this never happens again. But today has been impossible, and impossibility is fragile as a butterfly's wing, and she's not sure she wants to go back to the possible yet.

Instead waits.

Waits.

Waits.

Fine.

Another mind-shocking transition, and she is back in her own flesh.

Maria breathes.

Breathes.

Breathed.

She let the sounds in her ears finally penetrate. The battle was almost done. By the sounds of things, not far from here a field hospital had sprung up. The starved ones had launched a half-hearted assault on it, but they'd been driven back. Her body, finally catching her attention, passed on the laundry list of minor wounds. She had to force herself to stay upright.

Heaven's guts, she hurt. Field hospital it was, then. She staggered forward, leaning on her spear like a walking stick. It was exactly what she'd expected – some ruined inn near the wall commandeered in service to saving lives. Every table was strewn with exhausted soldiers. Under the dust and blood and grime, it was hard to tell who was clan and who wasn't. Today, they probably all were. A dozen walking wounded like her were clustered in the doorway, waiting to be tended to as a nurse darted back and forth between them, snapping questions as she triaged.

"You," she said. Maria forced herself to stand at attention. The nurse didn't notice. "What have you got?"

"Slices and stabs, a few burns from a cannibal with fire techniques."

"Anything else?"

"Pain in- pain. Can't tell if it's normal fatigue or not. I can wait."

"Glad to hear your medical opinion, doctor idiot."

Maria winced, but didn't respond.

"Go sit down," said the nurse, pointing to a corner not far from the door where a few other mostly able-bodied cultivators sat collapsed like destringed marionettes. Maria went, found herself a spot, and sat.

"…Senior," muttered the legionnaire. She turned. There he was. Beaten, exhausted, but still alive and – amazingly – still metaphorically gleaming like he'd walked out of the Dawn Fortress yesterday. The laugh leapt from her throat.

"Junior," she responded. "Looking good."

"Feeling it," he said. The ghost of a smile danced across his lips.

"What happened?"

"We held. Captain ordered us down off the wall when they started withdrawing to help with clean up. I took a few knocks. He sent me here."

"Few knocks?"

He winced. "I- may have stepped out of formation."

"Ooooooh. You're going to get drilled on that, little brother."

He nodded. "So I have been informed."

Maria laughed again. "Well. If you're already fucked, might as well enjoy it." She pulled her canteen from her hip and pulled out the stopper. "Let's get fucking drunk."

"That can't be good before a hospital check up."

"You turning down booze?"

The legionnaire considered. Then he took the canteen again, and took a long swig.

"Good boy," said Maria, grinning. "We'll make a legionnaire of you yet."

---

It struck me, given Maria's on the "siege of three frogs city" mission, that I hadn't actually *written anything mentioning the siege*. Given that @uri wrote this cool little scene about Yan kicking ass during an assault on the walls, I figured I should follow suit. And then Yan showed up for a cameo. The tense thing running throughout is an experiment. I like writing fights best when they're in the present tense, because it always feels (to me at least) a lot more visceral and real. Having said that, I know it puts people off sometimes, so I tried shifting back and forth to show when Maria's fighting purely on training and instinct, and when she's consciously deciding what to do next. I don't necessarily know if it works, but fuck it, written now.

...Ooooh, that's a lot of explaining. Sorry. @Kaboomatic @Humbaba @BungieONI , may I have a threadmark, please?
 
Negotiated End has clearly won. Blind the Thief has barely won, but hey, either-or. Negotiations post up in a little bit.
Scheduled vote count started by occipitallobe on Mar 13, 2021 at 2:19 AM, finished with 363 posts and 72 votes.
 
Year 152 - The Spoils of War
The negotiations had been tense.

Short, but tense.

Manuel had spoken first.

"I think a seventy-thirty split is fair. After all, we won the war - to give thirty percent is giving our friends in the Jingshen Clan great face."

Old Jingshen raised a single eyebrow.

"Won the war? What cities have you taken? What land do you hold? If I choose to send my clan south, we shall secure easily the majority of the territory. Don't speak to me of past victories, speak to me of what you can take and hold."

Things, Tisamenos felt, should have degenerated from there.

Instead Old Gold simply smiled.

'I suppose that is true. Yet to take the land you must hold it, and if I do not concede it to you, can you hold it against me? Are you truly so eager to fight?"

Old Jingshen frowned.

"I doubt that's your bottom line. Glorious Strike, I can offer the revenues from all the lands we gain for five hundred years if you rule in our favour and cede eighty percent to us."

The mood turned black.

For all her inhuman beauty, Lady Glorious Strike's face turned remarkably ugly in a moment.

Before she could speak, Manuel interjected.

"Surely my esteemed friend from the Jingshen Clan did not mean to openly impugn the honour of the Strength Purity Sect? After all, it is their famed reputation for neutrality as trusted mediators that has led to much of their pre-eminence in the world. I myself would never suggest that your Sect would act in the slighest way untoward, Elder Glorious Strike."

The grimace resolved itself, and she smiled. Tisamenos felt she probably wasn't used to do so.

"Grand Elder Jingshen meant no offense, Grand Elder Konstantinos. It was merely a..."

She lapsed into thought for a second.

"...set of poorly chosen words. Can you not forgive his mistake."

The very soul of courtesy, Manuel inclined his head.

"Of course. After all, it is so easy to make a mistake. I forgive you, Elder Jingshen."

The other man's face flickered only for a moment, but even Tisamenos caught the angered look.

He thought, again, someone would explode, but the topic returned again to the negotiation of benefits.

He sat there writing for nearly two hours as they spoke, the Nascent Souls going over the distribution of benefits. Old Cannibal glowered in the corner, presumably not permitted to leave. Over that time, Tisamenos saw the shape of three possible proposals emerge.

Tisamenos could feel them all dancing about them, each proposal gaining and losing traction in their turn. In the end, they agreed on...

[ ] The Simple Split

Manuel negotiated well, and nearly forty percent of the territory would go to him. Forty would go to the Jingshen Clan - though it was likely they would grant almost all of it to a series of minor vassals - and twenty to a buffer of neutral powers in-between. The neutral powers in question would be formed from mortals taught cultivation in the Cannibal lands, and would permitted to develop for five hundred years without interference, though this would not be enforced via a binding oath. It was undeniable that the Jingshen were taking land to deny it to the Golden Devils - Tisamenos doubted they got all that much out of it. A simple split, with little complication.

+ Straightforward, no complications.
+ A large buffer zone, no raids from the Jingshen likely.
+ Represents a rough 1.8x increase of your potential cultivator population in the long run, though this will be Wealth-neutral - the Cannibal lands are the poorest part of the desert and oversee no major trade.
+ Makes you far more powerful relative to your vassals.
- The smallest amount of land on offer

[ ] The Stork Bloodline Clans

The Gemstone Justice Sect had faced massive damage to both its core interests and to many of the subsidiary Clans who served it. Three of them, Longevity Stork Clan, Fecundity Stork Clan, and Fortune Stork Clan were originally part of a greater whole under the Guan Clan, a major vassal of the Gemstone Justice Sect. Under this proposal, the Golden Devils would gain sixty percent of the territory and the Jingshen would take only thirty, but of that sixty - half - or a full thirty percent of the former Cannibal lands would go to the Stork Bloodline Clans, who would pledge themselves to the Golden Devils as vassals. They would technically be considered demonic, but being Clans who focused mainly on trading and various magics they were unlikely to see battle either way. These Clans were completely devastated and would be generations if not centuries in recovery, but their current lands in the Great Battlefield had been pillaged so many times there was virtually nothing left. As virtuous merchants who had worked hard to help fund the war against the Demonic Altar Sect, this would be remuneration from the Righteous Path for their sacrifices.

+ Aids relations with Strength Purity
+ A massive amount of land overall with no additional benefit to the Jingshen.
+ Gain Clans focused on various sorts of longevity, fecundity, and luck magic, as well as trading. Useful assets to have in your pocket in the long run.
+ Immigrants from the Stork Bloodline Clans will mean your land is up and running more quickly.
- Less land going to you, representing a rough 1.5x increase of your potential cultivator population in the long-run, though Wealth-neutral.
- A smaller buffer zone, raids might occur if the Jingshen decide to raid.
- Half your new land goes to new vassals, keeps you at rough parity relative to all your vassals.


[ ] The Scorpion Gamble

Perhaps it was merely a gamble, or perhaps it represented something more, but Old Jingshen offered an eighty-twenty split in Manuel's favour, in return for a one hundred and twenty years cessation of tolls and tariffs on the Scorpion Road. While this would devastate the Clan's income in the short-term, in the long-term it represented a massive increase of strength for the Clan. If the Jingshen could bring about their plan to dominate the desert in that time, it would mean the end of the Clan. If they couldn't however, it would mean their dominance in the Desert forever!

+ A massive gain of land. Represents a roughly 2.5x increase of your potential cultivator population in the long run, though this will be Wealth-neutral.
+ Makes you tremendously dominant compared to your vassals. In the long run they won't be able to act out of line.
- Zero buffer zone. Raids can occur more easily.
- A loss of 10 Wealth per turn for 6 turns. Total of 60 Wealth loss, though this is a good price for those lands...
- If this pushes the Jingshen over the edge to gaining a third Nascent Soul, you might lose everything. High-risk.
 
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Well, I'm leaning vary hard in the direction of the stork bloodline clans, getting less land directly isn't actually a problem as we have great relations with are vessels and I don't see how in the long run this will be any different.
 
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