I feel like Taylor should just give a quick non-answer until a more appropriate time and venue.
"Short answer: alien brain tumor superpowers. Long answer: You're not my therapist, I'm not telling you my life story."
Hereafter [Worm x Fate/Grand Order]
- Thread starter James D. Fawkes
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"Short answer: alien brain tumor superpowers. Long answer: You're not my therapist, I'm not telling you my life story."
The main problem is that real story isn't super believable without proof. After all what's more likely - some weird form of magecraft or the Earth suffering an alien invasion in the 1970s and that she can control bugs due to one of the aliens giving her that ability, and that is leaving out a lot of the more unbelievable stuff. It does not help that Joan does not have any real reason to believe the few people who can collaborate her story and that Taylor is telling the truth.
She does have the fact, that entities from beyond empowering someone isn't unheard of, going for her. As that's litteraly what the salem witch trials was about with abigail williams And that other dude who walked timelimes who got possessed by a demon god pillar had seen similar'ish stuff.
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While true the Outer Gods didn't technically exist until Salem happened that allowed them to actually appear in other times, if I recall, and regardless it is very unlikely that there are any actual historical or mythological records that mention the Outer Gods. The most important thing to keep in mind is that A, none of the Characters really have the means to know the exact details right now, and B, it is comparably more believable to suggest having made a contract with an Elemental/Terminal of Nature. Then something along the lines of saying I made a contract with an alien force, or it is the case that Talyor was unable to properly perceive reality due to having a psychic ability that enabled her to be something beyond baseline humanity?
TimeDiver
Herald of Dis Lev
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Re: Taylor's control over simple lifeforms via Queen Admin and Human Order's reaction to her (including Servants-at-large)
Consider the implications that Taylor may qualify as enough of a living Foreigner that XX (if and when she ever appears) may drop all pretense of being a joke Servant and go straight to breaking out Twinmyniad for a non-comedic ZENRYOKU... ZENKAI!!
Consider the implications that Taylor may qualify as enough of a living Foreigner that XX (if and when she ever appears) may drop all pretense of being a joke Servant and go straight to breaking out Twinmyniad for a non-comedic ZENRYOKU... ZENKAI!!
XX only goes after Foreigners when she's on the job, she gets along with them fine off of it. Also, as Taylor is not a Servant, it is unlikely XX will go after her.
I mean I could get some servants having problems with her, but the idea of the human order having a problem is kind of odd given that the only reason the human order wasn't snuffed out in 2013 is Taylor and QA.
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I think it would be funny if she's gives an obviously exaggerated joke answer first to deflect and then Rika's gonna be all: "Shit, she was right about the dragon dick rotting, so I guess that has to be true, too."
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I'd like to second what people said for the most recent chapter doing a great job highlighting just how capable Arash is while showing that he still does have some limits. He and Taylor already have the makings of a good team, and luckily despite being a fundamentally decent person, Arash is still pragmatic enough to really concern himself with whether his enemy is more than vaguely aware of his existence before he kills them. Servants with a strong sense of honor seem likely to develop problems with Taylor, so it's fortunate that that hasn't been a problem quite yet (even Jeanne, whilst interested in goodness and rightness, doesn't strike me as someone invested in fairness.)
Neah. Rika has to doubt the answer I wrote only for Taylor to be like "Dead serious. Alien super tumor, and I'm not going to talk about it."
Then after 'rotting a dragon's dick off' and 'space cancer superpowers' she ends up not knowing if Taylor is joking about things or not.
Taylor: "Why did you think I was being serious about Tamamo beating EMIYA up and ousting him from kitchen duty so she could be the one to cook for you?"
Rika: "Because every time you claim something outrageous it's TRUE!"
Taylor: "Listen I just completely made that up. It didn't happen and your dinner is completely safe."
EMIYA: *Stumbles out of kitchen clutching his groin. Falls over unconscious.*
Tamamo: *Steps out of kitchen. Rips 'Kiss the Cook' apron off EMIYA's body.* "Oh hi dear. How do you feel about fish tonight?"
Rika: *Turns to Taylor*
Taylor: "Those fox ears give you exceptional hearing don't they?"
Tamamo: "They do, but honestly I was listening in from spirit form behind Rika when you first brought it up."
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Goetia goal was to press the reset button and make a world without suffering by becoming God, since he already was a second class planetary entity he even had a decent shot at it. True Magic isn't as bullshit as it first apear after FGO so th Entities are advanced enouth that their powers could fight a Colony like Goetia so self-presevation of predators won the day.
To begin with Earth isn't that closed system we are leed to believe by magu's comunity close mindness, almost all gods were "adults" invited from the outside to take the hole of administrators so the existence of planetary predators like the entities isn't that surprising when we take into acount The Umbral Star "worker bee" soloed the Age of Gods. Hell, humans(A-rays and Lines) of Nodes even evolved into Viltramites-like beings that treaten Planets enouth that they so a preenptive strike to stop them from colonize the stars! The idea that humans and entities relationship will evolve into a long term partenership of symbiosis isn't farfetch when we look at Eidolon, dead apostles are basicaly honorary fairies of Big Red, for all we know this is thusday in Galaxy scale of events and the Entities themselves are small fry compared to whaever extinguished the civilization that created the Greek Machine-Gods ruled by a dyscosphere.
Wow, so much of that is wrong
Nope, he was just going recreate Humanity as he wanted us to with 'no suffering' as the primary goal, but a lot of other stuff was going to happen, he also didn't need to change any to do that, he just needed to wipe out the existing Humanity first.
He is a Gestalt of 72 Demon Pillars that collectively decided to act like how they thought Solomon would act, leading to FGO, he was going to succeed but Chaldeas stopped him
On the contrary, True Magic is exactly as bullshit as it appears, the problem is that the enemies have equivalent bullshit. Zelretch can just decide which timeline is real, Aoko accelerated the heat death of the universe, but True Magic is and always has been defined by the limitations of Humanities ability.
It is effectively a closed system so long as nothing comes in from the outside, just because there isn't really anything keeping shit out, doesn't mean it isn't a closed system.
From what I remember, Sefar was sent by the Velber specifically to cull the the gods, also it only started the decline of the Age of the Gods, other things happened that did more to end it.
That in completely untrue. Notes was caused by the TYPES responding the Gaia's request to come over and eradicate Humanity because Gaia saw that they would continue to live on it's corpse when Gaia died. This is roughly equivalent to the microbes in your stomach gaining sentience and growing a thriving civilization on your corpse. So, Notes happened explicitly because Humanity didn't colonize the stars, if we had left Earth when Gaia died, non of the TYPES would have done anything, it's only because we continued to live on Gaia's corpse that they tried to kill us, because we were the equivalent of a zombie horror movie. Also, no the A-rays and Ether Liners of Notes weren't anywhere near as badass as Viltrumites, only Gun God and Ado Edem could meaningfully affect the TYPES, the rest could barely slow them down.
What dies Eidolon have to do with anything? Zion was going to destroy Earth as a whole across every timeline, it didn't care about Humanity at all, Humanity doesn't really have anything to offer Zion that it wants. In a partnership or symbiosis, both sides get something from the relationship, what are the Entities supposed to get from us?
Dead Apostles are faeries, which means they count as part of Gaia, who the fuck is this 'Big Red', the only one I can think of is from DxD.
Earth is only planetary level in a whole ass Galaxy, news at eleven. The Velber wiped out the race that created the terraforming ships that became the Machine Gods. You'll note the also destroyed the Machine Gods.
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Dead Apostels aren't. True Ancestors are.
Fairly sure there's a wog that the entities have tried symbiosis but it backfired as the species of the planet tried to kill them, either a wog or we are straight up told in ward.
Straight up told. In an Interlude. Scion's perspective. It wasn't really symbiotic though. Scion and Eden were always parasitic in nature. Even if they were entirely benevolent for a whole cycle they still ate everything then blew the planet up at the end. Early on a civilization cottoned on to the danger and managed to disrupt the cycle enough that they just wrote it off as totaled and blew that petri dish early.
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I think it should be "the utterly ridiculous quantity had to overwhelm even a hero as celebrated as that".
No? It's correct as it is.
It is technically grammatically correct, but at least in my opinion is more awkward phrasing than what bob suggested.
Well you do you, the original read better to me, so, to each their own.
I'm actually wondering if we are going to see any "cape" heroic spirits in this story. We know that Khepri could have been one if Taylor died but I'm wondering if we will see any of the triumvirate summoned would be interesting to see a post GM Taylor talk to a post GM Eidolon or the sheer awkwardness of Taylor/the twins summoning Alexandria and her having to work with the person who killed her
Windborne
Devourer of Stories
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Even if they are recorded on the Throne I highly doubt we'd ever see them especially since there are no catalysts available. They'd be far, far too weak to ever be summoned. Like they're weaker than any other Heroic Spirit. 20ish years is not nearly long enough for a legend to accumulate enough spiritual weight to allow for a Heroic Spirit summoning.
If Grand Order took part in the 24th century they might have gained enough, but even then they might just be forgotten about and left much too weak to be summoned, probably even with a catalyst.
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Age mattering for a Heroic Spirit's power is just one of very, very many guidelines that said spirits only sometimes follow. I'm not saying you're wrong, but we've got plenty of Servants that are barely (or not even) a century old (Mata Hari, Anastasia, Helena Blavatsky, Nikola Tesla, etc.) Mata Hari may just barely make the cut, but I'm pretty sure that Tesla and Anastasia hold their own pretty damn well. And then there's weirdos like Voyager who are only a few decades old but have some stuff going on. We're definitely never going to get heroic spirit Velocity, but I wouldn't bat an eye at heroic spirit Alexandria.
Isiri Pudireach
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If nothing else we can always make omakes about them. After all, how else am I going to get a scene of Taylor and Emiya bonding over wanting to kill their past selves?
As another example of a very young heroic spirit we have Neil Armstrong. Additionally I think people underestimate just how famous the triumvirate are given that they have the biggest role in driving the endbringers and other S-class threats back. I doubt there are many people on Earth bet who do not know who they are.