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Monochromatic Ursine
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Hmm.... Has Taylor ever brought up the time difference? She's from a world in 2011, and is currently in one in 1996. That's like traveling back in time 15 years.
Harry Potter and the Skittering Spouse
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Quoted for reference; Albus talked about security and reporting at the welcome feast, then failed to provide for the former even in the face of the latter.
This is actually incredibly critical.
Exactly WHY was Albus deliberately fostering behaviors in Harry that would trigger the easily predictable taboo?
It didn't come up at the last Albus meeting, but it should seriously erode any remaining trust in Albus.
Ah, yes, differences in values and prioritization, i.e. What makes 'better' better?
A critical thing to always keep in mind when talking to someone else, or when trying to incentivise them or disincentivise them, or predict what they might choose or do.
So part of the problem with Dumbledore, and the adults in general, is that it *is* a childrens adventure story. So the adults have to be useless, or there'd be no adventure for the children to go on. So there's sort of a genre enforced inability for the adults to solve a problem, and be well, functioning adults.
That's why you see so many fics where we've got a 'evil dumbles with a master plan'. Because a competent adult who actually meant well wouldn't tolerate this many death traps in a school back to back. And if they did everybody's parents would fucking lynch the staff for it. Dumbledore secretly raising Harry to be a Martyr, and all the adventures being orchestrated to test/mold him is one of the more plausible ways to reconcile all of the adults actions.
I personally think the best way to deal with him is 'he means well, but sucks at this'. He's the previous generation version of The Man Who Won. He beat his Dark Lord, noticed the place was a shit hole and the public cast him as The Leader of the Light, and he's been faking it ever since. He's trying, but the man is a teacher, not a General or politician. He's just not good at it, and the world has told him he's awesome for the last 50 years. He believes his own press, and thinks he's the only one who can do it.
Worse he spent those 50 years in a school. So he doesn't see Walden McNair, mass murdering serial rapist, he sees Walden McNair the Firstie with a runny nose and thinks "this man can be taught better" instead of "You put down rabid animals for the good of all".
I think Taylor is a fantastic foil for Dumbledore, their worldviews (especially if Taylors had some time in her continuity first) and approaches to violence and acceptable levels are drastically different. Even their outlooks differ. Taylor looks at the Magic Nazi's in government and sees "you're about to have a civil war". Dumbledore still thinks he's got a political problem on his hands, despite how the previous blood war ended.
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If I had to characterize Dumbledore, I think he's a coward. He's not senile, he's not overly sentimental, he's not evil in any way, he's not even intentionally growing Harry as a martyr—but he's afraid.
The last time he indulged in his power, he murdered his sister and his boyfriend started magical World War 2. The last time he leaned in against an unsettlingly cruel child, that child grew up to be Voldemort. The last time he had faith in his subordinates, most of them ended up dead. All of his family is either dead or loathes him. His alchemical mentor committed voluntary suicide. His only friend and even marginal peer is another old man in Elphias Doge.
He's scared to trust anyone else to do anything because he doesn't want them to end up harmed on his orders. He's scared to act and make the wrong choice. He has so much power at his fingertips and he's afraid to use any of it for fear of making a titanic mistake again.
This is a fine attitude to have for a teacher. This is a terrible attitude to have for the leader of a counterinsurgency or insurgency, or indeed for a politician.
He's too scared to try.
The last time he indulged in his power, he murdered his sister and his boyfriend started magical World War 2. The last time he leaned in against an unsettlingly cruel child, that child grew up to be Voldemort. The last time he had faith in his subordinates, most of them ended up dead. All of his family is either dead or loathes him. His alchemical mentor committed voluntary suicide. His only friend and even marginal peer is another old man in Elphias Doge.
He's scared to trust anyone else to do anything because he doesn't want them to end up harmed on his orders. He's scared to act and make the wrong choice. He has so much power at his fingertips and he's afraid to use any of it for fear of making a titanic mistake again.
This is a fine attitude to have for a teacher. This is a terrible attitude to have for the leader of a counterinsurgency or insurgency, or indeed for a politician.
He's too scared to try.
That, and it's worth noting he was born in, as far as I can tell, 1882, and note that the abolition of chaining up misbehaving students and whipping them was something Dumbledore did. Meaning some of his problems might simply come from the era his formative years were in, because British boarding schools at the turn of the century? Hogwarts is actually based on them. Yes, including Snape. Hell, I've had teachers roughly as unpleasant to deal with as Snape. So yeah, Dumbledore is in over his head, but I don't think he's malicious. Just ill-equipped for the situation. (It's worth noting that Dumbledore took something like two decades to decide that jo, he had to stop Grindelwald, so Dumbledore letting his issues cloud his judgement in dealing with somebody is not new.)
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Nah. Dumbledore wanted to change the world when he was a teenager because he saw the injustice of it all and felt compelled to act. He got caught up with Grindelwald because of that passion.
Ultimately, Dumbledore wasn't anything other than a scholar. At any point in his life. The reason Dumbledore is bad at war is that he is, was, and always has been a scholar. Worse, he's a genius.
Dumbledore in 1995/1996 is also old. That means he has been in academia for decades, he's almost always smarter than anyone he meets anyway and also usually better educated, but he's not an expert in logistics or what is involved in soldiering or policing, let alone anti-terrorism.
His entire approach to every conflict in his lifetime has been a duel or talking.
Ultimately, Dumbledore wasn't anything other than a scholar. At any point in his life. The reason Dumbledore is bad at war is that he is, was, and always has been a scholar. Worse, he's a genius.
Dumbledore in 1995/1996 is also old. That means he has been in academia for decades, he's almost always smarter than anyone he meets anyway and also usually better educated, but he's not an expert in logistics or what is involved in soldiering or policing, let alone anti-terrorism.
His entire approach to every conflict in his lifetime has been a duel or talking.
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For the sake of future discussions between the Potters and the staff, I would like to remind everyone that Harry murdered his DADA teacher in his first year and didn't even get detention for it.
Consistency is the key to discipline, after all, so dealing with the current death eater/DADA professor is entirely acceptable.
Consistency is the key to discipline, after all, so dealing with the current death eater/DADA professor is entirely acceptable.
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Hogwarts is not so far off from the Scholomance as you might first assume, and frankly it's at its best when it's the most similar. Give me bloooood
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While Snape generally only rises to the level of asshole, and we've all dealt with assholes, I rather doubt any teacher you've ever had threatened to murder your pet if you failed a class exercise.
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Point of order! He manslaughtered his DADA professor in first year and it was clearly self-defense.
An important thing about the Scholomance is that it has no teachers. Well, if you mean Naomi Novik's Scholomance. The traditionally attested Scholomance seems to have had at least one. (Specifically, the Devil.)
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so if they can prove that Snape was a threat, like by pointing his wand at them and having a history of throwing curses at innocent students, it's legit? Or perhaps by showing that he had the Dark Mark?
Lycanthromancer
The Arcane Fuzz
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Was that sarcasm?
Because that first thing was discussed in this chapter, and he definitely has the Dark Mark (and has had for decades now)...
Hmm.
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Monochromatic Ursine
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Year 1: Harry murdered his DADA teacher.
Year 2: Harry caused the Identity Death of his DADA teacher and killed a ghost of Riddle, an ancient rare snake, and several spiders we know are people.
Year 3: Harry attempted to murder his aunt, his godfather, his DADA teacher, and his friend's pet rat at one point or another and failed to kill anyone despite trying his best.
Year 4: Harry got Diggory killed, and probably almost unintentionally killed Skeeter atleast once.(honestly how has noone ever smacked the annoying beetle before? Woman was flirting death her whole career.)
Year 5: Harry got his godfather killed (unintentionally this time), and attempted to murder Bellatrix, and he basically tried to have Umbridge killed by centaurs and I legitimately have no idea how she got out of the forest alive.
Year 6: Harry definitely really really wanted to murder Draco.
When will this savior's bloodlust be sated?
Though seriously, it's funny his kill count dropped off as he got older.
Year 2: Harry caused the Identity Death of his DADA teacher and killed a ghost of Riddle, an ancient rare snake, and several spiders we know are people.
Year 3: Harry attempted to murder his aunt, his godfather, his DADA teacher, and his friend's pet rat at one point or another and failed to kill anyone despite trying his best.
Year 4: Harry got Diggory killed, and probably almost unintentionally killed Skeeter atleast once.(honestly how has noone ever smacked the annoying beetle before? Woman was flirting death her whole career.)
Year 5: Harry got his godfather killed (unintentionally this time), and attempted to murder Bellatrix, and he basically tried to have Umbridge killed by centaurs and I legitimately have no idea how she got out of the forest alive.
Year 6: Harry definitely really really wanted to murder Draco.
When will this savior's bloodlust be sated?
Though seriously, it's funny his kill count dropped off as he got older.
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That's not manslaughter! That was a simple allergic reaction; Quirrellmort was simply deathly allergic to some part of a Potter. Harry can't be charged with being an allergen any more than a pixy or doxy or spider or wasp or acromantula can!
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Monochromatic Ursine
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Point of order the Ministry fully held a trial for a giant bird horse for cutting a student, found it guilty, charged it with attempted murder(I honestly don't know what they called this crime of shutting up an annoying peacock...), and executed it.
They would definitely do the same for all those creatures, especially the talking giant spiders.
Which are actually illegal immigrants and an invasive species that have tried to eat school children.
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Lycanthromancer
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"The-Boy-Who-Caused-Anaphylactic-Shock-(Twice!)" doesn't really roll off the tongue, though.
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They are native to Scotland though...
Debatable since they are Scottish, in Scotland.
In fairness, it's more ethical (albeit icky) to eat schoolchildren than fully grown adults because schoolchildren may not be sapient yet and really, is there anything worse than being an adult? They were simply saving children from having to worry about bills and taxes and having children of their own. Those spiders were doing the children a mercy, if you think about it.
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Monochromatic Ursine
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No, they are not.
They are native to the island of Borneo. Which is near Indonesia. In Asia.
Hagrid got the original spider from some smuggler.
It's literally described as 'an egg brought from a traveler in a distant land'.
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To be clear, the DADA teacher caused his own identity death trying to curse Harry.
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Did you read the rest of my post? Cause that's the joke.
No, though given one ignored another student screaming "die"at me literally right under his nose (As in, I was standing right next to the teacher at the time) that's more likely lack of opportunity. Not to mention I was referring to Snape being a general arsehole and shitty teacher.
[hjk] I mean... Zordon was a wizard of some sort, wasn't he? [/hjk]
Lycanthromancer
The Arcane Fuzz
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So who else wants to see Draco's face when he's sentenced to Azkaban for the rest of his life?
Also Snape's and Dumbledore's.
Also Snape's and Dumbledore's.