Harry Potter and the Skittering Spouse

So you think you know bad guys? New
So you think you know bad guys?

"-Do you even want to fight?"

"Young Lady, no one should want to fight. It should always be the last resort." Dumbledore answered with just a touch of scorn.

"It's not about craving violence, Albus. It's about understanding that violence is a tool, and others will use it. Knowing when to respond with violence is just as important as knowing when not to.

You seem so sure your enemy is so insurmountable - let me tell you a little about my enemies.

Lung - the dragon. Leader of the ABB, a pan-asian street gang. Their main products were protection fees, human trafficking, illegal gambling and drug smuggling. Lung himself could become stronger as his enemies became more dangerous. At his height, he supposedly fought Leviathan head to head. Didn't stop it from sinking Kyushu in the end but he survived it's attention which is more than most can claim.

He had subordinates, Bakuda and Oni Lee - she made bombs with more potential effects than even you wizards could claim to use. He was a teleporter who made clones. Together they were a supplier and repeat suicide bomber.

He made a big deal of the 'known and unknown' fears. His strength was the known fear, the anvil. His temper was the unknown fear, the hammer.

He threatened to kill kids, so I rotted his crotch off on the first encounter, tore his eyes out on the second, and handed him over to the police. A man like that doesn't discuss, and so it wasn't a discussion.

Kaiser - the Fascist. You'd like him - lots of backstory and talk of family. He's also an unrepentant terrorist who would get along well with Tom if either of them could share power. He had an army of Neo-Nazis at his beck and call, heavily infiltrated the local police and politics. He liked to use underlings for his terrorist activities and only showed up to a fight in person when it suited his image - also very like Tom.

He ran into Leviathan, something that he couldn't fight with rhetoric and died in the street. Funny all that talk about superior race but Lung walked away from a fight with a true monster and he didn't.

His gang split afterwards but still stuck around - Nazis don't disappear when you chop off their leader's head. We chased them out of the city later, disappeared one or two to keep them compliant. Keep that in mind.

Next up was Coil - very much the pure Bond villain. Power for the sake of power, taken with efficiency and calculus. Came the closest to killing me but Lisa was better than him in the end. Also my first kill. Some enemies should not be left alive.

Leviathan was an Endbringer. They show up every few months, kill entire cities. Cold, impersonal slaughter. You don't fight these things with anything but violence. I did some damage, it broke my spine. I survived. Not much more to say.

Finally we come to the Slaughterhouse Nine.

The Nine were monsters. They delighted in causing suffering. Unfortunately for them, we eventually decided to play their game. Jack was always a scary bastard but face to face he's also very much the poser. Everything is about image. So we decided to play Slaughterhouse against their Slaughterhouse. Chased them out of the city, killed half of them.

Didn't get Jack.

Would have liked to have gotten Jack.

Still might if I ever get home.

I seem to have forgotten my point, but suffice to say your lich is not my first 'bad guy' and based on my experience, he's not the only one of them needing to get dead.

I appreciate you're trying, Albus, but it might be time for you to move aside and let the professionals work."
 
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Skeeter got off lightly considering that her libel encouraged people to send a caustic substance that burned Hermione's hands through the mail and God knows what else.

Hermione was positively restrained by just keeping her in a jar for a couple of months.
 
Remember kids, if someone writes something mean and libelous about you in the paper, it's okay to torture them for a while and then threaten them with more.

I mean, Skeeter also committed a felony: She didn't disclose that she's an animagus and abused that ability to invade the privacy of dozens of people. Let's not forget that she's an adult sneaking into kids' rooms. No matter her intent, that's simply not okay. If the threat was only about the libel, the blackmail wouldn't have been very effective.
 
You know, it's weird there have been 3 separate people that have turned into animals and snuck into Hogwarts that way. You'd think with McGonagall on staff she'd do something about that.
 
You know, it's weird there have been 3 separate people that have turned into animals and snuck into Hogwarts that way. You'd think with McGonagall on staff she'd do something about that.

Dealing with that is one of my favorite parts of Intercession (the extras, it's not in the main story)

Also you forgot: and incites a bio-terrorist attack against your person.

It's not inciting it, it's libel. You're not liable for what other people do unless you make it clear it should be done/want it to happen/tell people to do it.

Edit: I concede I was thinking purely of American law, let alone British or, god forbid, magical
 
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It's not inciting it, it's libel. You're not liable for what other people do unless you make it clear it should be done/want it to happen/tell people to do it.

In the US you aren't, in the UK things are a bit different, and certainly Skeeter's actions were exceptionally reckless, as she accused Hermione of (IIRC) using a love potion on both Harry and Krum- and while it's been years, I do recall her actually suggesting somebody needed to stop Hermione.

Meaning that I could easily see a judge ruling agianst Skeeter, because that's functionally both a rape allegation and suggesting somebody needed to do something about it because the authorities weren't. Which sounds alarmingly close to a deliberate attempt to incite a lynch mob.
 
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Dealing with that is one of my favorite parts of Intercession (the extras, it's not in the main story)



It's not inciting it, it's libel. You're not liable for what other people do unless you make it clear it should be done/want it to happen/tell people to do it.
Example of libelous vs non-libelous: a made up lie about a person that incites someone else to inflict harm upon a person or not use their services\buy their product.

On the other hand, if the statement is the full truth, not half-truth, a complete fabrication or a "guess" (all of which fall under libel laws) then even if someone cites an article which features that piece of knowledge as their motive to attack, it's not libelous.

But since Rita Skitter outright makes shit up, creates scandalous "guesses" and presents it as the most likely truth as well as presenting half truths, any action taken against the people she writes that way against is indeed libelous.
 
Meaning that I could easily see a judge ruling agianst Skeeter, because that's functionally both a rape allegation and suggesting somebody needed to do something about it because the authorities weren't. Which sounds alarmingly close to a deliberate attempt to incite a lynch mob.
Considering her status and the others involved it's also implying line theft to improve her social status.
 
I mean if Dumbledore wanted to not get misunderstood he could bother to explain anything at all.

Yes Taylor goes a bit overboard but that is often because they dont bother to keep her in the loop or prove they can make a situation better.

Stop Sucking and she will not have to step up and Escalate.
 
I mean if Dumbledore wanted to not get misunderstood he could bother to explain anything at all.

Yes Taylor goes a bit overboard but that is often because they dont bother to keep her in the loop or prove they can make a situation better.

Stop Sucking and she will not have to step up and Escalate.
I usually seeth when Taylor unnecesarily escalates, which fits what happened the last chapter too, though she gets a pass this time. Dumbledore explicitly isn't telling anyone his reason because he thinks himself a "Hard man, making Hard decisions while Hard", he's riding this whole thing on a mixture of prophecies (with Harry's birth being tied to the center of them all) and manipulation. He's stacking a deck of cards as a tower which is stupid since any problem can make it all crash down. Taylor wants to create lots of smaller decks with only some cards shared between the decks. The above is a metaphor for information sharing. And since she's the dictionary definition of Paranoid and Authority Averse so she'll always gravitate towards compartmentalization in an organization. It also fits with her background as the daughter of a union worker.

And not surprisingly, it's actually the correct choice for an organization that is fighting against a terrorist organization that infiltrates all levels of society, especially the upper echelons. They're essentially operating as an insurgency because technically they ARE an insurgency organization.
 
I mean if Dumbledore wanted to not get misunderstood he could bother to explain anything at all.

Yes Taylor goes a bit overboard but that is often because they dont bother to keep her in the loop or prove they can make a situation better.

Stop Sucking and she will not have to step up and Escalate.
To be generous to Dumbledore on this, demanding someone cut you in on all their info and justify themselves is a pretty big ask...and he's not used to anyone challenging him on anything.

Of course, Taylor has been aggressively clear from day one that she was making that sort of demand, and he's just seemingly assumed he could deflect and distract instead of engaging. Which completely fails because Taylor is focused (she has no competing priorities, really) and not at all interested in cutting him slack.
 
I think you are focusing too much on Taylor in the last scenario. Harry was the one that decided not to call off the operation. Harry was the one that made the decision to ignore Dumbledore's empty words.
 
Shaking my head I jogged after him and held him back long enough that we could tail the newcomers at a distance as they went up. Meanwhile I maneuvered several pixies into place so they could properly eavesdrop.

"-assure you all there is no threat to the school." Dumbledore said as he attempted to dissuade the group of red robbed aurors.
Looks like Ron is living up to that larcenous streak I mentioned earlier...
 
Just adding my two cents to the Dumbledoor pile.

When I have to write in I take his base character "Well-meaning meddler" and then check which of his MOUNTAIN of issues and traumas the situation is triggering and then ignore all the rest.

Seems to have worked and has been more constant than the J.K.R.'s version.
 
Just adding my two cents to the Dumbledoor pile.

When I have to write in I take his base character "Well-meaning meddler" and then check which of his MOUNTAIN of issues and traumas the situation is triggering and then ignore all the rest.

Seems to have worked and has been more constant than the J.K.R.'s version.

Out of curiosity, how often do you do an 'issues check' to see if he switches from one to another? Every paragraph?
 
Just adding my two cents to the Dumbledoor pile.

When I have to write in I take his base character "Well-meaning meddler" and then check which of his MOUNTAIN of issues and traumas the situation is triggering and then ignore all the rest.

Seems to have worked and has been more constant than the J.K.R.'s version.
Dumbledore's Real problem is that he's two mutually exclusive characters forced to be one character. He is the omniscient, All powerful, Wise, and Kind Grandfatherly Mentor Figure who leads the hero to glory and he is also The fuckup Athority figure upon whose failure the action and plot of the Young Adult Series Rests, and that just doesn't work. Dumbledore is overly complex and contradictory as a character because he's not one character he's two and those character's aren't compatible. Sure all sorts of characterisations and explanations can explain dubledore on a Watsonian Level but on a Doyalist level its a simple matter of He should have been Dumbledore the 2nd coming of Merlin and Harry's Mentor, or he should have been Dumbledore the Authority Figure with too much Authority who fucks up spectacularly every year and is saved by literal schoolchildren.

My personal Watsonian Explanation is that Dumbledore is a wise and powerful man but he is a wise and powerful man with so much on his plate and on his to do list that even when stripped of most of his powers and positions in book 5 he still has enough shit on his plate that majorly important things still fall through the cracks. Basically Dumbledore is a fuckup not cause he's a fuckup but he's a fuckup because He's both a foreign and domestic politician, He's the head of the courts, He's the headmaster of the only wizarding school in Britian, He's looking first for voldemort's method of immortality until year 2 and then for the horcuxes, He's Looking for a way to destroy Harry's scar Horcux without killing Harry after year 2, He's Organising a tri school Tornament (which would have been years 1-4 cause don't tell me that shit just was decided and the government did all that work between year 3 and 4), and so on and so on and so on with all the problems every year and being more and more on his plate and all the things that when you think about them he'd have to have been doing for years to have the revelations in later books. Basically He's one man doing the work of one or more teams of men and he can drop none of it because he literally is the best choice for doing everything even when being the best choice for everything makes so so so many things fall through the cracks and makes him fuckup so fucking hard every year.
 
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