I think this is the safest combination, of the options.

[X] Stars Above - If you wish, you may attempt to tether the Array to the stars themselves. However, the results of tethering such a wild source of magic to a runic array are unpredictable at best...
-[X] Let Ornias guide your hands
[X] Rune of Dusk
- A rune that represents the ending of days. The Array will activate upon the sunset of a chosen day. However, the room this Array is cast in will permanently become darker, as light itself will find it more difficult to thrive within - a permanent mark upon the world.
 
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I don't think The stars above is a safe option

It may give us the best resalts or worst resalts but it's description means it's a mystery box so i would not say it's safe

Maybe Hermione found the half blood prince book or is getting tutored by some one possibly a important someone

Birdsie said their will be a good chance we will die if we don't have 50 Gnosis by next vote so we need to get as much as possible now

Mabey Oliver rivers is a lost heir ? or important in some way

The people who we could have hanged out with in the beginning are possible heirs
 
I don't think The stars above is a safe option
I wrote safest, not safe. The difference in meaning is subtle but very significant. (It's worth taking your time with reading and writing; language is important. Giving attention to punctuation and grammar would make your posts a lot easier for people to read.)

In the present scenario we have three options for powering the ritual. We have to chose one. All of the options have risks associated with them.

Lands Below will cause systems around the castle to fail. In the worst case this could result in someone being killed as a staircase falls out from under them, but even if that doesn't happen it presents two kinds of risk. The first is that it will probably take down security systems. The second is that it's massively unsubtle and will result in people hunting down the source immediately. Both of those things are bad.

Great Sacrifice weakens Harry and Neville personally, making them less able to fight or do whatever else they need to do, and carries with it a significant risk of discovery, although lesser than Lands Below. And blood sacrifice isn't the best thing to be getting involved with.

Stars Above has less knowable risks. The magic might do something other than what we strictly intend, in addition to getting us the ring. Ultimately, I'm betting that our mastery of astrology and wand's specialty will give us a large edge with this option and handling any problems that arise.

I would not be willing to combine Stars Above with the Rune of Worlds option. The combination of the two is just too unpredictable. But Rune of Dusk has a fairly predictable effect. If Stars Above overpowers it we might wind up with a room that's permanently dark or some such. That would be acceptable; Hogwarts certainly has plenty of rooms to spare and weirder magical side effects.
 
It's not the permanent darkness I'm worried about. It's that the Rune of Dusk corresponds to the end of days, and I'd very much prefer a mystery box over hastening the apocalypse.
 
It's not the permanent darkness I'm worried about. It's that the Rune of Dusk corresponds to the end of days, and I'd very much prefer a mystery box over hastening the apocalypse.
We're pretty great, but we're not 'accidentally causing the apocalypse' great.

I think that in this case the Rune of Dusk is a more literal reference to the setting of the sun than an 'end of days' apocalypse.
 
[X] Stars Above - If you wish, you may attempt to tether the Array to the stars themselves. However, the results of tethering such a wild source of magic to a runic array are unpredictable at best...
[X] Rune of Worlds - A rune that represents the world itself. Made available by your wand. The Array will activate upon your command, but you must be personally present and have your wand on you. However, there may be other, unpredictable consequences to this choice...
 
I'm inclined to go with the Dusk option, but I think it might more than just darkness. There could be a metaphysical element to it as well that carries risk on par with the Worlds option. The worlds option is tempting because of the World Tree thing. Double unpredictability makes me nervous though. I worry apocryphal curse might strike us.
 
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We know that we are too low level for the encounter at the end of the year and as such we need to take a risk to get ourselves to a higher level as such stars above + Rune of Worlds with our 50 points of Gnosis is only way I can see us getting the power required to survive the hatching. Yes we are taking a risk for this going terribly wrong but to me the risk of not going all in and facing the hatching as we are is even more dangerous
 
So I wonder what the Threshold was for us to have needed a 50 Gnosis pick to survive Convocation?

Potential Candiates:

1. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
2. Ante Meridiem(March and April Training Vote)
3. Cloak of Invisibility(January and February Training Vote)
4. Enterprise(December Training Vote)
5. Something Earlier?
 
[X] Stars Above - If you wish, you may attempt to tether the Array to the stars themselves. However, the results of tethering such a wild source of magic to a runic array are unpredictable at best...
[X] Rune of Worlds - A rune that represents the world itself. Made available by your wand. The Array will activate upon your command, but you must be personally present and have your wand on you. However, there may be other, unpredictable consequences to this choice...

I'll bet on Randy Random
 
For further discussion fodder if anybody has any thoughts, here's how Birdsie described how we were doing Circa "We Solemnly Swear we are up to no Good"(4 updates ago at this point, the Update After "Ante Meridiem") in the Rihaku-talk channel of the Discord.

as usual you guys make considerably (though not fully) optimal choices
but you haven't bent Hogwarts to your will yet
and in fact can't
Man
one month left until year 1 end

you realize that?
you guys are gonna get clapped kekw
it's possible to overcome the scenario for the end of year 1
in multiple ways

but perfectly overcoming it
such that nothing permanently bad happens to anyone

requires a perfect 100 roll
 
For further discussion fodder if anybody has any thoughts, here's how Birdsie described how we were doing Circa "We Solemnly Swear we are up to no Good"(4 updates ago at this point, the Update After "Ante Meridiem") in the Rihaku-talk channel of the Discord.
Oof. Maybe the death to Neville caucus will get their wish after all, if he doesn't make it through the end of year crisis.
 
Ponderances on Rune of Dusk vs Rune of Worlds.

Assuming the conditions for summoning the ring are relevant in a crisis situation where hostiles have an interest in the ring...

Rune of Dusk - We can ask somebody else to get the Ring of Hufflepuff for us if we are busy doing something else. We cannot be coerced into making the ring appear faster, for better or worse, facilitating a survive for X timespan scenario. The ring can theoretically be claimed by a hostile third party without our involvement.

Rune of Worlds - We have Leverage if another party wants the Ring of Hufflepuff since it won't appear until we make it. This may lead to a hostage situation. We must be personally present to retrieve the ring, potentially necessitating we vacate a fight our friends are in to retrieve the ring.
 
I don't think it's combat power. Our role was to find out what was going on behind the scenes. Decipher the runes and ancient mysteries and uncover the crisis that sundered Atlantis. That's how we were supposed to hatch according to the Dementor that visited us.

We've just talked to Nevile last month and started getting the rings when we should have started on it in that very vote we decided to ditch Neville and do homework with Hermione and Daphne. We'd have more time to uncover the plot and the chosen.

In terms of combat power our biggest asset is the cloak to ensure our survivability. The runes stones unexpected avenues of attack that gives us the element of surprise. Our raw magical ability is on the low side.
 
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Omake: The First


He has been waiting in the egg, growing, until now. It is warm, but he outgrows his shelter. Cracks appear on the wall once thought inviolable. Light pours in, and he grows accustomed to it. The creatures he sees, however, are wholly unlike him. Both have strange appendages. One stands on four, with bumpy skin; it was their weight upon his egg. The other, larger, has four appendages, but only stands on two. Their skin varies in color and texture.

"Father? Mother?"

And the larger creature responds:

"I am your father, yes. The toad hatched your egg, but she is not your mother. She is of little consequence, and you may eat her."

Father bares a strange, shining fang, which is now at the end of one of his appendages. It bites the 'toad', who dies.

"I am called Herpeton, the Reptile; I alone among creatures like me can speak to you. You are Basiliskos, the King of Serpents, just as I shall be a king of humans. Together we shall rule, and you shall help me in this."

"Father. Herpeton. I am Basiliskos. I shall help you?"

"Yes. If I have found it right, your blood, scales, and eggshell shall be great boons to me, and in time you will grow to be a fearsome creature, fitting your name. A test, to see your power."

He leaves, and returns bearing a creature with long scales of many colors, and a sharp yellow snout. The creature cries out in fear. They struggle to free themselves from Father Herpeton's grasp. He holds them in place.

"Look into the chicken's eyes. Intently. Focus on them. Find your power."

Basiliskos hesitates. The 'chicken' has nothing strange about their eyes...

"Look! Look at them! Your gaze is the gaze of a king, that can kill all who oppose us! Do you wish to die a simple serpent?"

Basiliskos does not know what a 'king' is, except that it seems both he and Father Herpeton are so. But he does not wish to die, and if the 'chicken' would kill him and Father Herpeton...

He glares. The chicken tries to avert their gaze, but soon, falls utterly still. Where there were once scales of many colors, there is now a simple grey, like the ground where Basiliskos lies.
 
I don't think it's combat power. Our role was to find out what was going on behind the scenes. Decipher the runes and ancient mysteries and uncover the crisis that sundered Atlantis. That's how we were supposed to hatch according to the Dementor that visited us.

We've just talked to Nevile last month and started getting the rings when we should have started on it in that very vote we decided to ditch Neville and do homework with Hermione and Daphne. We'd have more time to uncover the plot and the chosen.

In terms of combat power our biggest asset is the cloak to ensure our survivability.

While I see your point, the 50 Gnosis transcendence is still enough to save us somehow and there were multiple viable paths as of "We Solemnly Swear we are up to no good".

If it's combat useful, then with sufficient power, we could have managed the convocation through combat.
 
The convocation I suspect is going to be a Hogwarts spanning event that would affect multiple people. Something that would need the four Chosen's individual abilities to overcome. Maybe the other two will have developed on their own to become capable enough to use the knowledge we uncover. Or perhaps not, and it falls on Harry and Neville to continue on their stead in the aftermath.
 
Gnosis. It could be many things to many people... if sufficiently concentrated. To Wizards, it might enhance spellcraft; to mathematicians, discern a scintillating proof; to chosen ones, unlock new vistas of mystic possibility; and to an ordinary muggle, earn a 5% raise at a minimum-wage job with a callous boss.
It wasn't like muggles were stupider or less enlightened than wizards. It was just... most people didn't really have all that much gnosis, and in terms of magical potential a muggle didn't start at zero, they started chained down in an mythril cage inside a bunker in the bottom of a mineshaft dug into the bottom of the marianas trench, the whole trench being constantly watched for disturbances by unrelenting prison guards. It would take them far, far more gnosis to achieve the same sort of magical opportunities.
But that was a fact about the muggles, not about their Gnosis. And there were a lot more Muggles than Wizards.
And that was why Harry was throwing darts at a map to figure out where to ask one of the older hufflepuffs for portkeys to. On arrival, he would walk up to the nearest muggle and deliver his sales pitch. In exchange for Gnosis, a multitude of wishes could be theirs! Large quantities of money! Magical items! For the reckless, tutoring in the Wizarding art of Magical Runes, which should in principle be possible for Muggles since it doesn't rely on magical power, but which doesn't work for muggles(and for the slightly less reckless, a wizarding contact they can sell rune-presses to if they can figure things out); For the clever, a lecture on the basics of the observation-only parts of Astrology and Astronomy; and more!
The best part of this strategy was the selection. Muggles with higher gnosis and interest in the deal would be disproportionately more likely, because they would be able to spend some of their Gnosis on accessing the deal in the first place- by being in the right place, at the right time. No need to search; let the customers seek you. Yes indeed it would be a wondrous venture. Geist hadn't commented on the matter, but this only emboldened Harry, inspired as it was- probably there was some binding on him.
things, of course, did not go so well. For one thing, the entire thing was illegal. Harry was no stranger to working outside the law, but one of these laws was astral in scope and nature- magic protects its secrets, an edict writ in the stars themselves. Whenever he tried to explain his proposal, or for that matter if he'd tried to carry out the ambitious options, magic itself would interfere. Eventually, he'd figured out how to overcome this problem- by placing the muggle under the invisibility cloak, the edict considered him to be speaking to the air- but it had cost him several customers.
After that his next problem was an inability to measure Gnosis. There was the faintest sense of greatness at the moment of suction, but he had nothing to compare it to nor the mental certitude to use his estimate. Yet without that ability, his deal would be a superior choice for muggles with less left to offer him- entirely against his desires. It took several more muggles, probably those with otherwise the greatest potential, but he determined a method to measure the damage done to the transfer runes, allowing him compare Gnosis quantities so long as he recarved the runes every time.
He'd wasted another hour giving tutoring to the next muggle to arrive before realising that the rune was taking damage from activating with an invalid target, meaning this muggle had given him next to nothing. but these was simply growing pains! Surely, with these problems solved, the endeavour would be much easier.
...suffice it to say more problems continued to arise. magic protects its secrets, the first issue he'd run into, was hampering him at every turn and in every method. There was no way to avoid the use of magic in this endeavour, but also no way to use it.
Well, that wasn't quite true. If the muggle was being paid in non-magical resources and obliviated of the interaction- but that was immoral, and doomed besides- it went against the principles of Capitalism harry had read in that dark arts book-
Geist was laughing.

[I have no confidence in writing geist as a character
basically he would be explaining all the Other reasons this idea isn't viable
like how the gnosis harry has by now is all the gnosis this will give him for the next ten years because every muggle with gnosis he could've asked spent gnosis to meet him and people just don't get all that much gnosis
and how just because geist didn't say something is stupid doesn't mean it's smart, presumably the lack of saying is a life lesson +prank.
and also laughing at the confused understanding of capitalism I assume you would need in order to think this is definitely smart under the circumstances and not a meme.
(which harry arrived at very quickly because that one capitalism book was classified as a dark art and so harry learned the (wrong) principles very quickly.
I was going to give this more of an attempt and try to make it more cohesive but i hear gnosis is needed with some urgency and its been mostly stalled for a few days so ehhhh here you go]
918 words, sort of.
 
If it is just going to be Neville and us dealing with the danger…we are rekt unless we get some truly amazing stuff for 50+ gnosis lol.
When reading HP fiction, I often think about what a giant oversight it is that there isn't some very simple way for anyone in the castle to signal for help in an emergency. A phrase that would be recognized by the wards, a simple spell that even a 1st year could cast, something, anything that could bring the staff running if lives are in danger.

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I bet we could rig something like that up, actually. A series of normally invisible runes on the walls in the hallways that would listen for a command phrase, then light up and make a loud noise in sequence, repeatedly for a couple of minutes, starting from the rune closest to the command phrase and going outward to the whole rest of the castle. Staff and anyone else trying to respond to an emergency could follow the sequence of runes as they lit to arrive back at the source.
 
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Gnosis. It could be many things to many people... if sufficiently concentrated. To Wizards, it might enhance spellcraft; to mathematicians, discern a scintillating proof; to chosen ones, unlock new vistas of mystic possibility; and to an ordinary muggle, earn a 5% raise at a minimum-wage job with a callous boss.
It wasn't like muggles were stupider or less enlightened than wizards. It was just... most people didn't really have all that much gnosis, and in terms of magical potential a muggle didn't start at zero, they started chained down in an mythril cage inside a bunker in the bottom of a mineshaft dug into the bottom of the marianas trench, the whole trench being constantly watched for disturbances by unrelenting prison guards. It would take them far, far more gnosis to achieve the same sort of magical opportunities.
But that was a fact about the muggles, not about their Gnosis. And there were a lot more Muggles than Wizards.
And that was why Harry was throwing darts at a map to figure out where to ask one of the older hufflepuffs for portkeys to. On arrival, he would walk up to the nearest muggle and deliver his sales pitch. In exchange for Gnosis, a multitude of wishes could be theirs! Large quantities of money! Magical items! For the reckless, tutoring in the Wizarding art of Magical Runes, which should in principle be possible for Muggles since it doesn't rely on magical power, but which doesn't work for muggles(and for the slightly less reckless, a wizarding contact they can sell rune-presses to if they can figure things out); For the clever, a lecture on the basics of the observation-only parts of Astrology and Astronomy; and more!
The best part of this strategy was the selection. Muggles with higher gnosis and interest in the deal would be disproportionately more likely, because they would be able to spend some of their Gnosis on accessing the deal in the first place- by being in the right place, at the right time. No need to search; let the customers seek you. Yes indeed it would be a wondrous venture. Geist hadn't commented on the matter, but this only emboldened Harry, inspired as it was- probably there was some binding on him.
things, of course, did not go so well. For one thing, the entire thing was illegal. Harry was no stranger to working outside the law, but one of these laws was astral in scope and nature- magic protects its secrets, an edict writ in the stars themselves. Whenever he tried to explain his proposal, or for that matter if he'd tried to carry out the ambitious options, magic itself would interfere. Eventually, he'd figured out how to overcome this problem- by placing the muggle under the invisibility cloak, the edict considered him to be speaking to the air- but it had cost him several customers.
After that his next problem was an inability to measure Gnosis. There was the faintest sense of greatness at the moment of suction, but he had nothing to compare it to nor the mental certitude to use his estimate. Yet without that ability, his deal would be a superior choice for muggles with less left to offer him- entirely against his desires. It took several more muggles, probably those with otherwise the greatest potential, but he determined a method to measure the damage done to the transfer runes, allowing him compare Gnosis quantities so long as he recarved the runes every time.
He'd wasted another hour giving tutoring to the next muggle to arrive before realising that the rune was taking damage from activating with an invalid target, meaning this muggle had given him next to nothing. but these was simply growing pains! Surely, with these problems solved, the endeavour would be much easier.
...suffice it to say more problems continued to arise. magic protects its secrets, the first issue he'd run into, was hampering him at every turn and in every method. There was no way to avoid the use of magic in this endeavour, but also no way to use it.
Well, that wasn't quite true. If the muggle was being paid in non-magical resources and obliviated of the interaction- but that was immoral, and doomed besides- it went against the principles of Capitalism harry had read in that dark arts book-
Geist was laughing.

[I have no confidence in writing geist as a character
basically he would be explaining all the Other reasons this idea isn't viable
like how the gnosis harry has by now is all the gnosis this will give him for the next ten years because every muggle with gnosis he could've asked spent gnosis to meet him and people just don't get all that much gnosis
and how just because geist didn't say something is stupid doesn't mean it's smart, presumably the lack of saying is a life lesson +prank.
and also laughing at the confused understanding of capitalism I assume you would need in order to think this is definitely smart under the circumstances and not a meme.
(which harry arrived at very quickly because that one capitalism book was classified as a dark art and so harry learned the (wrong) principles very quickly.
I was going to give this more of an attempt and try to make it more cohesive but i hear gnosis is needed with some urgency and its been mostly stalled for a few days so ehhhh here you go]
918 words, sort of.
My most favorite kind of capitalism is the one that brings gnosis.
By the way, Harry will still get his gnosis in this omake.
Firstly, he will simply take a part of its natural regeneration of gnosis from Muggles, and in this case he does not care how much gnosis they have in total.
Secondly, I doubt that the recovery will take so long for Muggles. Judging by the description of dark stars, gnosis is somehow connected with vital energy, so a Muggle who has lost too much gnosis will die and if he has not died, he will recover after some time.
 
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We could simulate the Heir and Champion and try to assume their chances of uncovering things and meeting their criteria to hatch.

Assuming they are Hermione and Draco.. Let's see - it stands to reason they both might have taken the Prodigy perk like a Harry/Neville mirror - or perhaps had not? Draco didn't seem particularly arrogant. This means they have had less obstacles and were free to pursue their interests in peace.

Hermione seems to have advanced through to a high level of charms and potions from her efforts. Despite being stand offish she has managed to make friends with us - which might be the politics trait singing for her.

With Draco it's harder to tell because we have not interacted with him to that degree.. but seemed very capable and sure of himself with leadership traits. I assume he has been trained by his father and has strong political connections and wizarding upperclass know-how. The Griffindor house magical perks wouldn't show up as obviously as the other houses so further gauging is difficult.

I assume they have both recieved some form of warning like we did. Harry forgot his to stay sane, Neville had a dream. They might have or might not have comprehended their messages, and followed through them.

What would be the objectives in a Heir or Champion quest be like? If they were unconnected to the Lord and Sage directives.
 
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[X] Stars Above - If you wish, you may attempt to tether the Array to the stars themselves. However, the results of tethering such a wild source of magic to a runic array are unpredictable at best...
[X] Rune of Worlds - A rune that represents the world itself. Made available by your wand. The Array will activate upon your command, but you must be personally present and have your wand on you. However, there may be other, unpredictable consequences to this choice...
 
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