Hakazin Plays: Mods for Hearts of Iron 4 (Old World Blues) (ON HIATUS)
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[X] Crush Thoraxian Opposition
Playing as nice Changelings seems like a waste of a perfectly good playthrough, why choose the emotion eaters if you aren't going to viciously parasitize some thinking beings?
Playing as nice Changelings seems like a waste of a perfectly good playthrough, why choose the emotion eaters if you aren't going to viciously parasitize some thinking beings?
Aww, so the Dread League is broken? That's a shame, the idea of vampire/necromancer world domination is really cool.
Hakazin
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Well, it's apparently not so much broken as it is poorly balanced. By the time the Black Crusade starts, the Griffonian Empire is normally in full "R E C L A I M T H E B I R T H R I G H T" mode, and there simply isn't enough industry in the north to outproduce them. What use are shambling hordes of the undead if they get mowed down by tanks and machine guns?
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[X] Crush Thoraxian Opposition
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Ahem. I'll refer to you an earlier post of mine:
Maybe you guys are different, but I don't like playing evil. Yeah, I've designed evil characters for D&D and such, but they always get a redemption arc. (Or death, or the campaign falls apart. The point is they're designed with redemption arcs in mind.)
Yeah, I will admit choosing "evil" options can make for a more interesting story overall. Like I said, won't be too upset if we stay Chrissy.
But going full evulz? Either you're crushed by your enemies, who've had enough your shit, or you win. The world is united in terror under a single nation, fueled by the painful deaths of thousands of ponies each day. We've already seen that with the Solar Empire. I don't want to see that again.
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My problem with going full evulz is that is so cliche.
Look everybody, a nice and happy setting!
Internet: Let's make it ultra-realistic and grim!
Me: ugh, again?
Let me guess, we will eventually create concentration camps for ponies so we can farm their emotions. >_>
Look everybody, a nice and happy setting!
Internet: Let's make it ultra-realistic and grim!
Me: ugh, again?
Let me guess, we will eventually create concentration camps for ponies so we can farm their emotions. >_>
The main problem with going peaceful in a strategy game is that, well, it kind of defeats the point of playing. That and I couldn't even say what the Thoraxians do in terms of events.
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Hey, I don't mind war and fights, I would love to see the Gryphons Revolution, but fighting for evulz? Meh.
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"Not going full evulz" isn't the same as "going full pacifist", though.
Look at Stalliongrad! We were pretty damn benevolent, and we still instigated a a civil war in Yakyakistan, and were planning on doing the same in Equestria. Yeah, it was little skeevy, but we cared for our people, weren't commiting genocide, and still got our wargame on.
My point is, this is Hearts of Iron. Of course we'll try to conquer the world. Just don't be a dick about it.
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This ain't a quest thread, so we can't do no tally, sadly.
However, counting by hand puts the votes at:
[ ] Thoraxian Betrayal: 7 votes
[ ] Crush Thoraxian Opposition: 8 votes
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No one has said anything about realism, it's just that playing as the bad guys can be fun (depending on your tastes) and the previous playthrough was fairly unambiguously benevolent. So a change of pace would be a nice IMO, nothing cliche about it.
tankdrop24
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The main reason I'm going for the Chrysalis path is that I'm just not convinced Thorax has any interesting content yet.
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I get your point but: Unambiguously benevolent?
You do remember that not only we caused a revolution, we waited at the side while thousands of ponies were getting killed waiting for Celestia to ask for help first, right?
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As unambiguously benevolent as any nation-state can be within the frames of relative morality and the need to defend their national interest, from a narrative point of view I think it's clear they were meant to be 'good guys'.I get your point but: Unambiguously benevolent?
You do remember that not only we caused a revolution, we waited at the side while thousands of ponies were getting killed waiting for Celestia to ask for help first, right?
Obviously, depending on one's politics there could almost certainly be disagreements but compared to the Changelings I think more people would consider them good than bad.
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[X] Crush Thoraxian Opposition
So what is the point of picking the warmongers if we aren't going to war?
So what is the point of picking the warmongers if we aren't going to war?
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Aaand, we're at another tie.
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We clearly need another tiebreaker, unless it's voting for the option I dislike, then we don't 
tankdrop24
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Look, you can just think of this as the bad end timeline to see how bad things get if Chrysalis succeeds, making any victories against her in future runs all the more sweeter.
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Actually, does Thoraxian Betrayal instigate a (relatively) peaceful transition to Harmony, or a full blown civil war? Wiki doesn't specify.
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