That is not entirely true, they generally mean ill to most of humankind in the same way a gremlin might, it is funny to watch people run around in a panic, they mean well to Molly and her known allies.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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That is not entirely true, they generally mean ill to most of humankind in the same way a gremlin might, it is funny to watch people run around in a panic, they mean well to Molly and her known allies.
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Molly might be a little biased.
Dresden might actually have an applicable intimacy.
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'Night guys, see you tomorrow with some family drama this time not starring Molly.
The fun thing about that particular charm is that the base effect just compares successes to permanent willpower dots, it doesn't actually allow for a will save unless you have 5+ permanent dots and the infernal indirectly does something that would distress them.
At which point they're then allowed to roll will to try to notice the infernal.
Harry definitely has more than 5 willpower, but until we do something specifically antagonistic he can't actually use it.
That plus BMI would make it fun to be someone we're angry at. An apparent shapeshifter with a strong SEP field is no joke.
Especially one that can do Agg damage essentially at will.
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So 10 successess makes us ignored by everyone. l don't think that there is anyway to get more then 10 willpower. Molly could just walk into area 51.
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Mostly. Beings that have Primacy Mantle equivalents just shrug it off entirely. Mab, old mages who bothered to protect their minds, so on. 10WP + True Faith also a way to shield yourself.
That said, outside of a very privileged club of magical heavy hitters, relevant defenses are likely to be very rare.
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So if we buy Etiquette to 5 dots and use an Excellency, we average 11 successes and change. If we only use our current Etiquette dots we would average 4.9 successes without the Excellency and 9.8 with it. So yeah, basically invisible to everyone for 2 essence. And that's before calculating the effect of Etiquette being a key ability that ignores 1s or dumping water on our head.
I believe I already mentioned that this is the only stealth charm we need?
I believe I already mentioned that this is the only stealth charm we need?
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About that one clause:
Take five minutes to imagine it's an NPC who's using this to hide from Molly while engaged in invisible shenanigans, and ask yourself if you feel distressed at the vague thought of powerful people sneaking around in your vicinity doing hidden things.Anonymity Through Propriety said:
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In exalted there was because everyone in exalted of any importance whatsoever has a perfect mental defense of some kind. In DF it's possible to become very powerful with only limited mental defenses. Hence the whole senior white council being subverted by Peabody.
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Okay, yes, but I don't think there are any stealth charms that work better on Mab in the native Infernal charmset. The anonymity one is basically the best in the bunch, and only fails against superhuman willpower or perfect mental defenses, and both of those are rather rare outside of Exalts themselves.
Also a funny thought: if we ever activate that charm for the purpose of sneaking out of physical confinement, CCC adds a -3 difficulty reducer to a difficulty 4 roll, and we basically turn dice directly into successes. If we add our 5th Etiquette dot and stunt the roll, we can basically stroll past even the most strong-willed of mortals on the way out and cut open any locked doors with our sword. Which means we can just walk out of any mortal prison.
I mean, we can already basically walk out of any mortal prison, but this would let us do it without having to fight the guards or raise any alarms, assuming that we use cyberdevils on the automated systems.
Perfect mental defenses might be a basic requirement for exalts, but Dresden Files doesn't have much like it. Reflexive mental defenses as opposed to things like more advanced versions of the white council's mental warding techniques are likely even rarer.
It's unlikely that it'd work on Mab or that Rakasha, but I don't think we've run into anyone else who could stop it coming in blind yet.
Better than invisible for some applications depending on how you read the charm.
Specifically on how it eats attention, making it an impossible burden to pick up on the infernal or mess with what they're doing.
Which could be interpreted to mean that it covers what we're doing to an extent. If we steal stuff from a shop people don't see stuff floating off the shelves, they mentally gloss over that anything interesting is happening at all.
Then note that one of the examples given as an indirect provocation that allows willpower 5+ people to act is murdering their spouse in front of them.
By implication, that means even something that extreme isn't enough for anyone with 4 or less willpower to take note of our actions.
If we had an invisibility charm and started killing people in a crowd they'd panic, but ATP could make them incapable of caring that they happened while we're involved.
Then there's the combat difference. I doubt many minions have more than 5 willpower, especially among factions like the red court and fomor who beat it out of their servants as a rule.
You can try to fight an invisible person, but why would you do that with someone you know and don't care about?
Sure some people will have better than 5 will in a sufficiently large group/among leadership, but it does drastically reduce the effectiveness of chaff. Which is good since drowning an exalt in adds is a decent mote-tap tactic.
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We can, but if we get thrown in jail it isn't going to be the walls holding us in. Dresden could have blasted his way out any time he wanted to.
Fortunately CCC also works for legal ways to get out of prison. Also recuiting all other fellow prisoners and guards to become our minions.
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Yeah, I forgot about that. BT is right in particular that DF's method of opposing such things is rarely a convenient almost automatic reflexive charm.
Considering we explicitly are aiming for sellable products wouldn't it be more a matter of making more or bigger diamonds rather than making unsellable novelty rocks?It would have been 10 otherwise, which still cleared the hurdle for inhuman skill and you did not quite make it to 15 which is when they start dong weird things like fluoresce because of the perfectly shaped crystalline structure or each produce a separate and extremely specific note when struck such that hitting them in order makes a famous piece of music, you know being a show off even by Celestial standards.
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They would be very sellable. It isn't as if we are trying to pretend they are natural with the current plan. Might as well make them better than diamonds.
Incidentally CCC means that if we have problems with Cops it's even more important then average to immediately ask "Am I under arrest?". Because the instant they say yes CCC starts applying.
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Infernals are made to be recurring villains therefore this set of powers is just the 'end of season episode cliffhanger special'.
That's one thing we probably should discuss with her. Something along these lines, in order to help us with our homework and such. If we are planning to go to college on merit, and to excel (because we are an exalt, and not excelling is just below us), we could exploit CCC like this.
Vote closed.
I kind of hope that the cyber devil can see and interact with the gaurdian angel asigned to Leech. It'd be like some horribly awkward buddy cop movie.
"One is an Angel of the Lord, ancient and unspeakably powerful. The other is a least devil borne of mortal angst, with 20 seconds of life experience and an encyclopedic knowledge of memes.
Together theyfight crime encourage funny crime attempt to keep one unruly child out of trouble"
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Wait, did Molly have one of those up until she willingly involved herself in the supernatural? I think that's how that worked in canon.
We might owe someone an apology note, maybe an edible arrangement.
Whoever it was would have to have watched over Molly at least since she was old enough to go outside, protecting her where and when it could as she grew up. Then been forced to stand aside and watch helplessly as she made choices that stopped it from saving her from threats it'd otherwise be able to erase with a thought.
… Damn, I actually feel bad for Generiel or whatever their name is now.
"One is an Angel of the Lord, ancient and unspeakably powerful. The other is a least devil borne of mortal angst, with 20 seconds of life experience and an encyclopedic knowledge of memes.
Together they
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Wait, did Molly have one of those up until she willingly involved herself in the supernatural? I think that's how that worked in canon.
We might owe someone an apology note, maybe an edible arrangement.
Whoever it was would have to have watched over Molly at least since she was old enough to go outside, protecting her where and when it could as she grew up. Then been forced to stand aside and watch helplessly as she made choices that stopped it from saving her from threats it'd otherwise be able to erase with a thought.
… Damn, I actually feel bad for Generiel or whatever their name is now.
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Arc 5 Post 7: Of Shadows Small and Great
Of Shadows Small and Great
30th of August 2006 A.D.
You find Leech in the middle of a pile of crumpled out papers and books opened haphazardly to reveal a plethora of colored notes, not all of them her own. In fact you recognize almost all of the textbooks, not out of any stinginess on the part of your parents, but because ever since first grade your sister had caught on that used books have clues as to the right answers to things and she's a good detective.
"Whatcha doin'?" you ask plonking yourself on the couch next to her.
"Time capsule," she replies with an eye-roll that is only about half-theater. "I swear there has to be a better way to ask us 'what do you think matters in the world' without also asking 'what do you think will stand up to being buried two feet deep in high humidity high-biomass alfisols for decades'."
"Uhm..." How do say this without getting her mad at you? Big sister brain engaged. "I don't know that any of the teachers at Saint Marry care that much about soil composition."
"Then why...? Urgh!" With that rather approximation of a growling badger your little sister slams books shut. "Like it isn't bad enough that we have to use 'information from school-approved materials' now you are telling me the basic premise of this stupid thing does not matter?"
"What can I say school is a silly place," you shrug. "Speaking of being silly at school..."
"Ah so she told you, thought she would." You recognize the determined look she gives you down to the crease between her eyebrows, mostly from having seen it in the mirror more times than you can count when you were getting ready to explain something to mom. Lucky for her you aren't mom...
That is how you find out that the girl Leech had been helping out has dyslexia and worse she had been afflicted with the curse of stupid parents. To their credit the girls had done everything reasonable, talked to the teachers, talked to the school nurse, Leech had asked mom about the bullying. But when that had not been enough... one thing lead to another lead to demonically assisted hacking.
"I'm proud of you for helping your friend. And for talking to mom first, even if it didn't help. Now, what I am not proud of is not using all resources available to you before risking a lot by yourself and with no backup. You have an awesome older sister after all." you say, before fishing out a new mobile phone, with its own cyber... spirit. Yeah, that's what you'll be going with. "Catch."
With the skill of years of softball practice she does, looking wide-eyed at the whirl of Matrix-like ones and zeroes that made up the preferred guise of the spirit that called themselves Wraith, a good fit for the voice formed seemingly out of a thousand carefully arranged hisses of static.
"Did... did you just buy me a phone?" your little sister manages.
And used up all my reserves yesterday trying to get the spirit to stick without managing a permanent binding. Maybe there is something about Samsung S200s that just does not work with denizens of the Wicked City. Still a year's binding should do her well enough. "Yep and a little something extra. They'll help you if you are in trouble, and no, they won't report to me. Think of them as a mix of a digital bodyguard, and Navi from Zelda."
Lost 400 $
She nods absently. "OK but like... what are they? I never got into the whole magic thing you know but computer spirits? Wicked cool."
"In more ways than you know, just don't use them as a moral compass."
"But I'm not going to have to talk about this to Father Thomas, right? I don't think he can take it."
"Dad said my magic was fine and they are part of my magic, bound by it at least." How much can you explain you wonder. Leech might be sharp as a tack, but she is eleven, you don't want to give her nightmares.
"Good enough for me," she nods happily.
That night your dreams are darker, getting back to her homework now with less study of soils, but doubt lingers in your mind. Should you have exposed your sister to entities which, however loyal are still born of man's darker nature, given to spite and cruelty for your own amusement? the thoughts follow you down the icy corridors of your dreams filled with the mocking voice of the fetch. You try to fight it, to summon your sword, to burn to to ash, but nothing works, you have no power, no crown upon your brow rests and when the thing drags you kicking, screaming, shivering into the depths of the fortress yous see Leech nailed to the tree.
The scarecrow leans close, its foul breath seemingly the only warmth in the world and it whispers: "You did this."
You wake up screaming.
For hours you just lay in bed too afraid to go back to bed until morning's light peeks through the blinds and Usum mentally prods you to face the day.
You are Exhausted: -1 die for all actions
Essence Restored to 12/12
How do you react to the nightmares?
[] Ignore then, they will go away eventually, you are just working through some stuff
[] Look into therapy, sure the evil fey would be hard to explain, but you are sure you can come up with a story that gets the point across without magic
[] There has got to be some kind of magical solution to control this, you just have to find it
OOC: You had to fail that roll eventually just by the law of averages, this is not the worst time it could have happened and at least you did not botch.
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