Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Fair point, but it's still worth noting that dyslexia and ADHD have different histories and different reputations.
It's possible that the game of telephone here dropped a few key details, but the fact that they appear to have summarily dismissed the issue is sort of concerning.

A lot of schools will have their special ed teachers trained in doing some basic screenings for stuff like this, which would be a reasonable first step to determining if there's anything to it.
Even if there are reasons for it appearing not to bother when your kid is struggling isn't a great look.
Thats precisely the issue.We are hearing this at third hand at best; Alicia thinking about what Jane told her was told to her by her family(Which folks? Mom?Dad?Aunt?Uncle?Elder sibling?).

Are they dismissing it because they distrust anything tangentially related to mental health? Is it because this is of recent onset, and their previous image of the kid's academics havent been updated? Or is it just they cant afford assessment by an educational psychologist or pediatric neurologist, and the rest is just coverup?

First result that pops up for me on Google is an Atlanta center that charges $1265 for a dyslexia assessment.
Thats a chunky piece of change for most families.
Especially if your family dont have health insurance; Obamacare wasnt a thing in 2006.

Yet she had good enough grades to get into a charter school on academic merit, as implied by Alicia's impression that her failing a makeup test would mean she wouldnt get allowed back. Too many unknowns.
We are a blind person touching part of an elephant through gloves.

Not to mention that if this is dyslexia, this is the sort of thing you'd expect her teachers to pick up on, or ask the parents to look in on. Catholic charter school; they generally have rather better funding than your average public middle school.
Plenty of balls appear to have been dropped here, and not just on the parent's side.
I'm thinking less for the multilingual element, but more for the three extra dice in multiple forms of communication.
Yeah I understand.
The mechanical benefits are cool. But the Merit itself says things about the character that Im not sure necessarily apply to Molly.
Thats just my opinion, though. Nothing more.
 
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Using the energy drink thing in emergencies? Sure.
Using it for attempting to get more AP? Nope. Do remember the history of the girl who we are playing, and precisely what got her friends in trouble. Lifestyle drugs are unlikely to happen.
We disagree strongly here. You won't be able to convince me here. I will be voting to try and get into a habitual use of this potion as long as we can make sure it's safe. There is a strong difference between the recreational habit-forming health-degrading addictive drugs, and performance improving safe medicine. And yes, I'll refer you back to coffee.
A couple portable things she can stuff in a cheap backpack? Sure. War machines no.
And why the hell not? Why shouldn't she have a room full of war golems of various configurations waiting to be used? This is exactly the way Lydia can get up to our level of power, if not higher. Have prepared tools for every situation. Yes, made with our help, but powered by her. You can't even claim it's cheese. It's exactly how this charm of hers is meant to work, there's a clause in it for long-term storage of assets in a Dragon's Nest.
Mechanics covers everything in the transportation area, all the way up to largescale projects.
Not really. Mechanics doesn't cover material science of the transportation devices. Fuel handling, nozzles, electronic control systems, etc.
Jewelmaking/Jewelry? Clothes? Fashion? Cooking?
Jewelmaking is way too narrow. And ok, making various lenses and optics (huh, optics might be a good idea) out of jewels is an option. Clothes - yeah, clothes I like. Fashionable power armor, not just good power armor.
We are trying to make top-quality diamonds that dont stand out from other top-quality diamonds.
Stacking extraordinary succesess can result in diamonds that are too good to be sold, because they draw attention to the seller and questions about the source.

Not everything requires plus ultra levels of effort.
No they can't, as long as we specify that we are trying to make natural-looking jewels, not "extraordinary large jewels".

And we won't agree on CCC being "cheese". This is almost certainly how it was intended to be used. Infernal power set is meant to be "cheesed". It's a toolset designed to be worked around, to be used creatively, if we are to play something not evil.
 
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I am looking forward to Molly getting kidnapped or arrested. Sort of wish that there was a charm that would encourage that behavior in beings that would normally just kill us.

Maybe our kingdom can set up a ransom fund? The do call it a king's ransom for a reason.
 
It's exactly how this charm of hers is meant to work, there's a clause in it for long-term storage of assets in a Dragon's Nest.
The Charm is an orignally Abyssal Charm made for zombies with a defined statline.

Believe me when I say that the ability to have a small undead army on call is pretty irrelevant compared to the other options an Abyssal has.
 
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The Charm is an orignally Abyssal Charm made for zombies with a defined statline.

Believe me when I say that the ability to have a small undead army on call is pretty irrelevant compared to the other options an Abyssal has.
I understand. But Lydia is not an abyssal, and having a squad of war machines on hand is exactly how she could stay competitive in terms of combat when fighting alongside Molly.
 
I understand. But Lydia is not an abyssal, and having a squad of war machines on hand is exactly how she could stay competitive in terms of combat when fighting alongside Molly.
I also liked your make a transformer idea to take advantage of her summon ride charm. Although we might be better off trying to find her some mystical mount.
 
I also liked your make a transformer idea to take advantage of her summon ride charm. Although we might be better off trying to find her some mystical mount.
True. We would want either a mighty mount (ideally one affected by Speaker to Crow and Hound - do lesser d dragons count as "death associated"?) or a technological one. I prefer the technological one, because:
1) It's much easier modified and upgraded. As Molly gets experience, new charms, access to her kingdom, meets advanced aliens (joking), finds Autochtonia (almost certainly joking), etc, it would be easier to upgrade what started out as a car than to make improvements to a dragon / hippogriff / giant raven / bear / mammoth / whatever. And yes, we could armor said mount, and they'd probably be more mentally active (until and unless HMP or Lydia does something similar but with a ghost).
2) If it has a "normal" form, it would be much more appropriate for the city environments
3) Iron, iron everywhere. Lots of supernatural stuff doesn't like iron, unlike Lydia, I would note. She has affinity for it, meaning that iron (well, steel) based summon would be logical.

So far, "summon armored car with a trunk full of war golems" seems like a viable strategy for her. It would certainly make her a heavy gun.
 
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Arc 5 Post 1: The Man in Magic Shoes
The Man in Magic Shoes

28th of August 2006 A.D.

Unfortunately dad isn't home, he's with a client doing some measuring on site and talking through their order and he won't be back before for a couple of hours. That just leaves..."That's OK mom... yes really it's OK, Father Forthil will be there, if he's not adult enough I don't know who is. Mom you have been meaning to go to the salon today for ages, got all the jawas sorted and everything. No I won't stop calling them that, it's funny. Bye, love you mom."

You shake your head a little as you put down the phone, wondering if mom will ever come to the point of seeing you as t he adult. Probably not anytime soon.

"Saint Mary's please," you tell Black Rider as you consider your expression in a conjured brass mirror. A lot of things can be tools if you consider them just right.

Too many piercings to meet a librarian? you wonder. The Library of Congress sounds fancy. The pictures you see online are certainly fancy and was founded in 1800, about as old as any American institution gets, but that does that have to do with the FBI or project Daedalus? Absently you banish the mirror. If they want to know about the people who put an illegal tracker on your car then they probably have more important things to worry about than how proper you look. At least they darn well better have more important things on their mind.

Lost 1 Essence (TTC mirror) -> Now at 11/21

As Black Rider parks in front of the church, pulling the handbreak even as you get out you look around to see... Wow looks like that secy librarian thing works both ways.

Howard Hyde could be any age between mid twenties and thirties, a neatly trimmed beard just starting to go a little wild around the edges, a strong jaw and a wide forehead currently lined with intrigue as he watches you come out of the car. He's dressed seemingly to ride the line between professional and cool with a dark silk shirt underneath a leather vest and leather trench-coat. You do like a man in a trench-coat, but there is something about his shoes... Something glimmering.

The shadows twist in an unfamiliar way and suddenly you are looking at the silver stitch work of the stranger's shoes and realize it's script, Latin in fact: Sit tibi non labuntur in glaciem aut sanguinem A subtle power, but a useful one. Something tells you all that lather is not there just to look cool, but it does not have any overt signs of spellwork that you can see.

Lost 1 Essence (All things betray) -> Now at 10/12


As you approach a polite smile on your lips, though not perhaps in your eyes, you hear the stranger's breath catch slightly in surprise... in spite of the fact that there is traffic going on behind you, not that you are about to look a gift horse in the mouth. "Miss Carpenter," he reaches out his hand a little stiffly and while you would like to think that it's because of your stunning good looks, its' probably the twenty degrees drop in temperature from being around you.

At the surge of annoyance you feel a click two inches behind your temples and hear the faintest echo of an alien note resounding from within. Just like that the air around you warms, not all the way to the muggy August afternoon, but certainly a lot less obvious. The change, unlike being able to hear someone's breath at twenty peaces feels solid, permanent.

"Mister Hyde I assume?" you shake his hand firmly, but without turning it into a test that you are quite sure you would win. "Father Forthil said you had some questions for me about a meeting last month. I have to say I'm glad someone is asking questions about him. He was being quite forceful in matters that do not respond well to force."

"Or respond too readily , on the rebound," he gives a dark laugh, then catches himself, perhaps startled at having made the joke.

For his part Father Forthil seems glad that you are getting along so well, though he quickly ushers the conversation into his office. Once there he lays out to you why a librarian wants to talk to you about spooks messing with spooky things. You know some of it from the Daedalus files. Jefferson himself had bequeathed upon the fledgling library along with his personal collection the task of cataloguing and making available to Congress all branches of human knowledge including the occult. The objections to 'irreligious texts' take on a different meaning in that context.

Lost 1 Essence -> Now at 9/12 (Empathy Excelency to keep your poker face)

Hyde himself explains that while the Library had initially been concerned with collecting all manner of arcane texts and understanding such as may be necessary for the work of Congress, it quickly became apparent that some branches of knowledge were too dangerous for human hands, quite the opposite to Jefferson's original idealistic charge.

"Sad though it might be the librarian must at times wield the torch," he sighs, though he is quick to add. "But we have been rightfully resistant I think to attempts by Congress and other branches of government to press us into an enforcement role. This means we have seen many such attempts by other institutions, which has in turn lead to something of an oversight role. Think of my task here as an audit into agent Wright's actions. Did he ask you to do anything that made you uncomfortable? Anything odd, suspicious or as you said too forceful. Rest assured that I am not acting in any sort of enforcement quality vis a vis you." He hesitates a moment and in a manner that sounds less like boilerplate reassurance finishes: "I am aware that the clandestine nature of magic might have seen you take action to protect yourself which are not wholly under the light of the law, particularly as those laws were not designed arcane powers in mind or the threats of the unseen world."

What do you recount of your experience with Wright and Daedalus?

[] Just the brief meeting with Wright

[] The fact that they tried to bug your car, probably illegally

[] Explain Katrina and your suspicion that someone associated with her might be manipulating the FBI

[] Write in


Do you have any questions for Wright?

[] What is the Library of Congress' relationship with
-[] ...the Catholic Church?
-[] ...the White Council?

[] When he says his organization destroys knowledge what does he mean?

[] Are they open to collaboration? You are already writing that book with Bob after all, offering them a copy would cost you nothing.

[] Write in


OOC: Hope the new charm and the frost reduction integration into the narrative worked out well.
 
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[X] The fact that they tried to bug your car, probably illegally
[X] Explain Katrina and your suspicion that someone associated with her might be manipulating the FBI
[X] What is the Library of Congress' relationship with
-[X] ...the Catholic Church?
-[X] ...the White Council?
[X] When he says his organization destroys knowledge what does he mean?
[X] Are they open to collaboration? You are already writing that book with Bob after all, offering them a copy would cost you nothing.
[X] If they are a library, how do you get the library card for their occult section?
 
[X] Write in - "Well, to start with he arrested a man he knew for a fact was innocent in an attempt to pressure him into working for them, without any real protections stopping that man from twisting them into a knot save his own moral code. That was both deeply unethical and dangerously stupid."
 
[X] The fact that they tried to bug your car, probably illegally

[X] What is the Library of Congress' relationship with
-[X] ...the Catholic Church?
 
[X] Write in - "Well, to start with he arrested a man he knew for a fact was innocent in an attempt to pressure him into working for them, without any real protections stopping that man from twisting them into a knot save his own moral code. That was both deeply unethical and dangerously stupid."

A small note here, you only know Daedalus was aware Harry was innocent because you hacked their internal communications. Do you want to reveal that? Or by contrast do you want to have that be Molly's suspicion of what they were doing with no proof to back it up?
 
[X] Write In - "Look, they're not very competent, and in their bumbling around they're going to offend someone far more scary than me eventually. Or worse, get suborned. I thought they were fishy after they tried to illegally bug my car, so I hacked into their systems and discovered that they deliberately arrested Dresden - a White Council Regional Warden Commander - when they knew he was innocent to try and blackmail him. Dresden was at the time pursuing a group of Kemmlerite Nazi Necromancers and their intervention meant the Nazi's almost managed to get away.'
 
[X] Yog

I'm gonna go with Yog here. I like their write-in.

Also, I don't think Fouredge's and Friedice's write-in is a good idea because revealing Molly's capability to bug their phone and mess with tech (despite being somewhat magical) is a terrible move. That's the kind of ace in the hole you try to keep a secret as long as possible.

Best to just pretend that the mishaps with Dresden never happened. Molly can rag them on their other mishaps like bugging her car or FBI fuckups.
 
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So, first of all, we should decide - are we interested in cooperating with the Library of Congress? I am. They are a human organization dedicated to the human safety. They are a legitimate power with a mandate from a real government. They are competent (enough).

We obviously shouldn't reveal any wrongdoings on our part. Katrina is very, very iffy (anything and everything you say can be used against you), and we shouldn't tell them about hacking the FBI. But we could talk about someone using first the police and than the FBI as catspaws.

We might also want to tell him about Pathfinders. They are a dangerous cult operating on American soil with foreign interests. But maybe not now.

[X] The fact that they tried to bug your car, probably illegally
[X] Explain Katrina and your suspicion that someone associated with her might be manipulating the FBI
-[X] DO NOT tell him about murdering anyone. At all. In general do not tell him anything that can be used against you in the court of law.
-[X] Explain how first the police was used against Dresden, and then the FBI.

[X] What is the Library of Congress' relationship with
-[X] ...the Catholic Church?
-[X] ...the White Council?
[X] When he says his organization destroys knowledge what does he mean?
[X] Are they open to collaboration? You are already writing that book with Bob after all, offering them a copy would cost you nothing.
-[X] DO NOT mention Bob

[X] If they are a library, how do you get the library card for their occult section?


I keep tinkering at it.
 
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[X] Write in - "Well, to start with he arrested a man he knew for a fact was innocent in an attempt to pressure him into working for them, without any real protections stopping that man from twisting them into a knot save his own moral code. That was both deeply unethical and dangerously stupid."
[X] The fact that they tried to bug your car, probably illegally
[X] Explain Katrina and your suspicion that someone associated with her might be manipulating the FBI
[X] What is the Library of Congress' relationship with
-[X] ...the Catholic Church?
-[X] ...the White Council?
[X] When he says his organization destroys knowledge what does he mean?
[X] Are they open to collaboration? You are already writing that book with Bob after all, offering them a copy would cost you nothing.
[X] If they are a library, how do you get the library card for their occult section?
 
So, first of all, we should decide - are we interested in cooperating with the Library of Congress? I am.
I tentatively agree with it. The Library has a shit ton of resources and opportunities for an Exalted to access.

I also think we should spy the hell out of them because government agencies are prone to fuckery, especially the deep cover magical branch like this Congress.

It's also canonically confirmed that other supernatural factions has their hooks in them like the Wild Hunt, the White Court and goddamned Nemesis, so it might be good for Molly to get her hooks in as well.
 
Fair

[X] Write in - Oh, god, they are... um... really really unprepaired to deal with basically, well, anything to do with the supernatural while mistakenly beliving they have a handle on it due to the tiny drop of power they have. I know. I was in the same place too. I got impaled on a spike of ice in Arctis Tor for it and now I am... well, you noticed the cold. Please, if you have that sort of authority, intervene. They should not go through what I did.
 
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But, really, should we bring up Pathfinders? They are something that a legit government institution should be interested in - essentially a religious cult terrorist organization.
 
[X] Write in - "Well, to start with he arrested a man he knew for a fact was innocent in an attempt to pressure him into working for them, without any real protections stopping that man from twisting them into a knot save his own moral code. That was both deeply unethical and dangerously stupid."
Might want to start with specifying that they pulled this on a white council warden too. If they pulled that on Morgan he'd have just burned whatever ID he was using and broken half the bones in their bodies on his way out of the city.
So, first of all, we should decide - are we interested in cooperating with the Library of Congress? I am. They are a human organization dedicated to the human safety. They are a legitimate power with a mandate from a real government. They are competent (enough).
I'd like to know more before getting in too deep.

With Daedalus the thing that killed the idea of eventual cooperation for me was the knowledge that they knew Harry was innocent and arrested him for their own purposes. The incompetence prior to that was manageable, but not the complete violation of their oaths and the basic requirements of their position as an organization.

The Library of Congress looks good, but we just met one guy whose job is to make them look good.
Best to just pretend that the mishaps with Dresden never happened. Molly can rag them on their other mishaps like bugging her car or FBI fuckups.
We could just talk about the issues with the arrest. We think he was innocent, but even independent of that arresting a wizard by walking into his home and demanding he come along quietly with the backup plan of letting the cops storm his apartment is incredibly stupid.

Especially when that wizard is a warden and the white council is at war. The red court would pull stuff like this if they thought it would work to get wizards out from behind their wards. All it would take to kick off a tragedy would be that thought crossing the right wizard's mind while Daedalus was trying something like that.

Really their whole approach could be used to substantiate the claim that Dresden was innocent and they knew it. A wizard that's started to kill people is hellaciously dangerous, and may have gone full warlock depending on the circumstances.

Nobody with the sense God gave a baby duck just walks up and starts demanding things of someone like that without a damn good idea of how they're walking away from it.
 
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