Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Well, here you are the QM.
Outside of it tho, I don't remember any white court sorcerers neither in books nor in RPG. Tho, I missed a couple of last books.
Even if they could, there are things like natural aptitude and low numbers. White court has to be born a wizard, Reds can turn a human wizard.
If it's possible, you'd think Thomas would be one, considering his mother's side of the family.
I mean he is a talent if not a very strong one, we see him use magic in the short stories. There is nothing to how White Court Vampires are described that would preclude them having a magical talent just as common as humans, and to be clear just as common as humans means wizard scale talents are very rare. There are a hell of a lot fewer white court vampires than there are mortals and, unlike the Reds and the Blacks they cannot just turn talents to their side. The best they can do is... sleep with wizards and hope they get lucky.
Why hello there Papa Raith how are you doing this fine day?
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It makes sense to spread the web of cyber devils further, especially when if means an opportunity to keep tabs on the White Court.
[X] Yes, try to plant a cyberdevil in her phone (Charisma+Technology)
So far we have been lucky that our cyberdevils haven't been detected.
Haven't been detected by someone willing to do something about it. Matthews did notice Clippy while she was sitting in Molly's pocket not doing anything overt.
Though that did seem to be a specialization thing; Harry hasn't noticed any cyber devil he's been exposed to until they did something to draw his attention after all.
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That's because cyber devils are clearly the best minions; the meatbag types have a lot of catching up to do.
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-They grow up so fast *sniff*
-Oho. She works for Lara?
Lara is driven in cars like classic Rolls. She could easily afford a CLS 63 AMG.
Hell, she pays her minions enough to afford cars like this. New.
So either the Whampire is here on behalf of someone else, or she is buying it for her boss not as a car, but as something else.
Maybe as a trophy, maybe as an arcane focus, maybe because they think there's something hidden in it.
-Going to note that Raiths have been known to use nom de guerres in their public life.
Lara went by Lara Romany during her porn star career, and Madrigal Raith's horror movie director career was as Darby Crane.
So Alyssa Catherine McGregor could be a Raith.
However, she doesnt seem to have the Raith coloring; they're all dark haired and dark eyed, while she's a blonde with green eyes.
So fair odds she is a hireling.
Still White Court, just not Raith family. Unless she's doing dyed hair and contacts, or magic.
-Noting as an aside that Lara has formally moved permanently out of the porn industry into investment banking.
Or maybe she was only doing porn acting as a hobby anyway.
Willpower 7. Intelligence + Craft/Science pool of 5 for Car lore.
She made Legendary rolls on both, and against DC6, which is standard difficulty, instead of DC7 which would be Challenging.
Now I'm curious.
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[X] Yes, try to plant a cyberdevil in her phone (Charisma+Technology)
Being a nosy parker is in theme for Molly.
Putting a cyberdevil on your phone is just next level listening at doors
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Whampires are human enough that the general human affinity for magic applies.
Plus, they have their Hunger, and I think I recall a WoG about them being able to use any stored energy to power magic.
Not many of them have the skills for it, but they could do it. In theory.
Thomas could (slowly and with difficulty)use a tracking spell in the short story Backup.
And Vittorio Malvora was apparently Cowl's apprentice in White Night, which is the next book by chronology. The only person we see who isnt a Warden with artifacts capable of blocking/counterspelling magic.
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About Wamps and Magic, IIRC there was an author statement somewhere that Wamps with talent do happen, though they generally wont reach quite reach the top levels human wizard have base power wise, but can compensate for that by using their hunger/stolen life to boost their power.
Given that Wamps can life for a very long time, and in the long term skill matters far more than raw strength, any ancient magic Wamps could probably be extremely dangerous, less raw base power or no. And thats leaving out the possibility that they could have gotten power boosts somehow, whether from deals with something nasty or via powerful dark magic (stuff like the darkhallow are things after all, and while we can be reasonably sure no Wamp has done anything on that scale, smaller scale things that exist, like what these Hags attempted in welcome to the jungle or the nightmares taking bites out of harrys spirit).
I assume lord raith spend (presumably) a lot of effort becoming immune to magic not just because he planned to piss off the white council.
Given that Wamps can life for a very long time, and in the long term skill matters far more than raw strength, any ancient magic Wamps could probably be extremely dangerous, less raw base power or no. And thats leaving out the possibility that they could have gotten power boosts somehow, whether from deals with something nasty or via powerful dark magic (stuff like the darkhallow are things after all, and while we can be reasonably sure no Wamp has done anything on that scale, smaller scale things that exist, like what these Hags attempted in welcome to the jungle or the nightmares taking bites out of harrys spirit).
I assume lord raith spend (presumably) a lot of effort becoming immune to magic not just because he planned to piss off the white council.
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- Russia
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- He/Him
I have absolutely no idea!
[X] Yes, try to plant a cyberdevil in her phone (Charisma+Technology)
Yeah.
As Lord Raith demonstrated, an old Whampire can stockpile a lot of juice for quite a while.
Its not like being a human who needs to eat regular meals; they have much greater potential reserve capacity to just stockpile mojo and go through long fasts as long as they arent actively burning power.
Furthermore, they can potentially make bargains with other Powers for other things, like improved magical power, or in Papa Raith's case, immunity to mortal magic.
[X] Yes, try to plant a cyberdevil in her phone (Charisma+Technology)
So, I keep working on the kingdom proposal. This is probably going to be the most controversial part - native races. I haven't statted them mechanically (I kinda gave up), and if anyone is willing to help me there, that would be greatly appreciated. I tried to make them interesting and unusual, both in aesthetics and potential plots involving them. They haven't been min-maxed, but they were inspired by Exalted lore, and by Dresden Lore a bit.
Also, midjourney is a treasure trove for art design.
As always, I am very open to feedback on this, and am willing to adjust, modify and change most things. Especially on this part, since it's the characters that make the story.
Again, if anyone is willing to help me with mechanical part of things, I'd be very grateful.
Also, midjourney is a treasure trove for art design.
As always, I am very open to feedback on this, and am willing to adjust, modify and change most things. Especially on this part, since it's the characters that make the story.
The people making up the societies of the five cities are varied indeed. It is, in fact, almost impossible to quantify the total number of distinct phenotypes, as with good enough mystical support, almost any combination of participants is capable of producing viable fertile offspring, often with its own unique and rarely seen before features. Both academic and political debate is never-ending on if this means that everyone is a member of the same species, just differently shaped. That most beings currently alive have in their family tree ancestors of at least two different shapes further confounds the issue, especially with recessive physical and mystical traits sometimes manifesting several generations later.
The Total Indexing Society of the of the Infinite Library, however, posits five main races to exist. These races are distinguished by a set of common and, more importantly, stable physical, biological and thaumaturgical characteristics. They are
Holding the plurality of population at approximately 35%, humans are the undisputed masters of ferromancy – the art of changing the world through artifice and collective distributed rituals known as technology.
While lacking the distinct inherent powers of the other races, humans are able to excel in many areas. The malleability of their souls leads to easy attunement of most implants. As a result, the majority of those pursuing the path of cybernetic transcension start their life as humans.
The age of biological maturity for a human is approximately two and half hundred moon cycles. The full turn of the wheel is between eight and ten hundred cycles, though the advances of modern medicine and certain practices can extend this by over ten times.
While not the most common among professional thaumaturgists, nearly every human has some measure of the shaping gift. With proper coaxing and perhaps some supplementary rituals, almost everyone is capable of at least minor ritualized workings. Indeed, among the higher strata of society it would be hard to find anyone who doesn't have at least a passing knowledge of and skill in the arcane.
The oldest sophont still interacting with society at large is the human head abbot of the Red Hammer forge-monastery, Institutional Might of Forgiveness.
Second most common race of the world, tocatli, or spider-kin, are a multi-limbed mostly bipedal race, distinguished by the large variation of their body layouts, albeit all following a singular theme.
Similar to the bestial spiders used for silk and poison production in the farms of the golden city, most tocatli are capable of producing long threads of silk. Common employ for lower class tocatli lacking talent or dedication to pursue a career is to produce thread for food and shelter. The dependency of the thread properties on tocatli diet, lifestyle and mystical ability results in its wide implementation and incredible cost range: from suits fit for upper middle class men made by the desperate lower class, to bindings of the most precious mystical tomes, formed by enlightened keepers of the Infinite Library. Some of the tocatli manifest other spider-like abilities, such as the ability to stick to surfaces.
The common gift of tocatli, thought to be an extension of their web-making ability into the mystical realm, is the power to see the future. In most so gifted it manifests as incredible intuition towards the potential consequences of their actions. With dedicated training, a mystically trained tocatl can glimpse the weave of probabilities connecting objects, events and places via metaphysical threads.
Biologically tocatli are perhaps closest to humans among other sophont races. Aging at the same rate, the full turn of their wheel is a bit shorter than a human one – six to nine thousand
The versatility and relative mechanical simplicity of their multi-limbed body layout makes tocatli the most common pattern for the pursuers of cybernetic augmentation. J
Gurvel, also called the dragons, are, probably the species most adapted to the Waste environment of the world of five cities. It's possible that they are, in fact, the only natives of this world, unlike the other races.
Gurvel body is covered and partially composed of organic crystalline matter. Their skin acts as a natural armor and a source of nutrition – like some of the Wastes inhabitants gurvel are capable of photosynthesis, or, rather, a light-catalyzed radioactive decay control, which they use to process the stores of unstable elements they consume as food. While their skin crystals also serve as a good radiation insulation and has, in fact, been used as such by other races, it is inadvisable for members of other races to remain close to a wounded gurvel for prolonged period of time. The presence of radioactive materials in their bodies resulted in both significant healing abilities and a highly increased cancer rate. All these factors combined resulted in a statistically large percentage of gurvel taking up medical professions.
A distinct advantage gurvel hold over other races is their ancestral memories. In the process of procreating, a number of most commonly used memories and skills is passed to the offspring from both their progenitors, which will slowly manifest over the course of their maturation, resulting in a significant maturity and experience advantage over the youths of other races. In gurvel hybrids with other races, and in their more distant descendants, this trait can also manifest, but only when said descendant reaches certain levels of mystical power and skill, as the biological components of the mechanism are either lacking or underdeveloped.
Gurvel are the shortest lived of the mortal races, their turn of the wheel taking only 400 or so lunar cycles. Specific treatments can extend this time by more than ten times, however the rate of cancer occurrence increases dramatically after the first thousand cycles, and most gurvel prefer the renewal to life extension.
Standing at nearly two and a half meters high during their mature mobile period, seta are a fungoid race. Unlike other embodied sophont races, setas are biologically immortal, and keep growing throughout their life, eventually transitioning from a mobile form to a sessile colony, which then spawns its offspring sired through cross-pollination. To enter a new turn of the wheel is seen as both a great sacrifice and a great opportunity by members of this race. Few take this step, preferring, instead, to interact with the world through remote drones or summoned familiars.
Possessing of highly developed optical and olfactory systems, setas are normally deaf. In modern day many young setas use cybernetic audio systems as a path of cybernetic transcension.
Seta are the race with the largest percentage of professional thaumaturgists and priests, professions which, for them, often overlap. Mirror of the Changing Moon, the founder and spiritual guide of the Covenant of the Empress-to-be is a seta from the City of Endings.
The Total Indexing Society of the of the Infinite Library, however, posits five main races to exist. These races are distinguished by a set of common and, more importantly, stable physical, biological and thaumaturgical characteristics. They are
While lacking the distinct inherent powers of the other races, humans are able to excel in many areas. The malleability of their souls leads to easy attunement of most implants. As a result, the majority of those pursuing the path of cybernetic transcension start their life as humans.
The age of biological maturity for a human is approximately two and half hundred moon cycles. The full turn of the wheel is between eight and ten hundred cycles, though the advances of modern medicine and certain practices can extend this by over ten times.
While not the most common among professional thaumaturgists, nearly every human has some measure of the shaping gift. With proper coaxing and perhaps some supplementary rituals, almost everyone is capable of at least minor ritualized workings. Indeed, among the higher strata of society it would be hard to find anyone who doesn't have at least a passing knowledge of and skill in the arcane.
The oldest sophont still interacting with society at large is the human head abbot of the Red Hammer forge-monastery, Institutional Might of Forgiveness.
Humans are often the "default" race. I dislike this a bit. In exalted humans are the ones who can take an exaltation. In Dresden Files we are the masters of ferromancy – the science and technology (this is what Jim calls human technology in at least one interview, so I ran with it). Thus, I lored humans to being more easily able to do soul manipulation than other races (attune to cybernetics). I also made a human (with distinctly Alchemical Exalted name, take it as you will) the oldest still publically present inhabitant of the world.
"Turn of the wheel" is the term of the natural lifespan. Because remember, Fivefold Courts of Frozen Fate have Endless Suffering trait, and you can't die, even from old age. I figure that, when you do die of old age, your reincarnation rakes longer, but you get back in your prime. But if you kill yourself, you don't get age reversal. Which leads to all kind of skewed perspectives: do people suffer without treatment, perhaps even worsening their own conditions to rebirth faster, or do they go for expensive life exension treatments? For ten time lives extension - my argument is that in the society of advanced magic and science, Alchemy 4 would be avaialble, if pricy, so it's justified.
With the images I wanted to show that humanity is both a more broad category in five cities where mixed ancestry is commonplace (the first girl's inhuman features are not makeup), and that cybernetics and alien aesthetics are also a part of society (the second girl's nose is a cybernetic implant - an advanced airfilter and chemical sensor).
"Turn of the wheel" is the term of the natural lifespan. Because remember, Fivefold Courts of Frozen Fate have Endless Suffering trait, and you can't die, even from old age. I figure that, when you do die of old age, your reincarnation rakes longer, but you get back in your prime. But if you kill yourself, you don't get age reversal. Which leads to all kind of skewed perspectives: do people suffer without treatment, perhaps even worsening their own conditions to rebirth faster, or do they go for expensive life exension treatments? For ten time lives extension - my argument is that in the society of advanced magic and science, Alchemy 4 would be avaialble, if pricy, so it's justified.
With the images I wanted to show that humanity is both a more broad category in five cities where mixed ancestry is commonplace (the first girl's inhuman features are not makeup), and that cybernetics and alien aesthetics are also a part of society (the second girl's nose is a cybernetic implant - an advanced airfilter and chemical sensor).
Similar to the bestial spiders used for silk and poison production in the farms of the golden city, most tocatli are capable of producing long threads of silk. Common employ for lower class tocatli lacking talent or dedication to pursue a career is to produce thread for food and shelter. The dependency of the thread properties on tocatli diet, lifestyle and mystical ability results in its wide implementation and incredible cost range: from suits fit for upper middle class men made by the desperate lower class, to bindings of the most precious mystical tomes, formed by enlightened keepers of the Infinite Library. Some of the tocatli manifest other spider-like abilities, such as the ability to stick to surfaces.
The common gift of tocatli, thought to be an extension of their web-making ability into the mystical realm, is the power to see the future. In most so gifted it manifests as incredible intuition towards the potential consequences of their actions. With dedicated training, a mystically trained tocatl can glimpse the weave of probabilities connecting objects, events and places via metaphysical threads.
Biologically tocatli are perhaps closest to humans among other sophont races. Aging at the same rate, the full turn of their wheel is a bit shorter than a human one – six to nine thousand
The versatility and relative mechanical simplicity of their multi-limbed body layout makes tocatli the most common pattern for the pursuers of cybernetic augmentation. J
Since this is Fivefold Courts of Frozen Fate, and a lot of stuff is inspired by exalted, I asked the question "how would descendants of pattern spiders and humans cross-breeding look like, warped by reality itself reshaping itself?". This is the result. As a race tocatli (nahuatl for spider) are meant to make the world different and, dare I say, more tolerant? Arachnophobia is a common and biologically encoded in human species. In a world where spider-kin are common, and you can't run away from them, and they are accepted as members of society, to the point where humans pursue their forms through cybernetic augmentation, how would that warp human psychic? They are an indicator of how this is indeed hell, even if it is a functioning advanced society. Unprepared visitors are unlikely to find it comfortable.
The first tocatl image is meant to be an artsy photo on a cover of some journal (possibly an erotic journal).
That they can and do sell their bodily fluids on the industrial scale is a fringe horror aspect. This is, after all, hell.
The first tocatl image is meant to be an artsy photo on a cover of some journal (possibly an erotic journal).
That they can and do sell their bodily fluids on the industrial scale is a fringe horror aspect. This is, after all, hell.
Gurvel body is covered and partially composed of organic crystalline matter. Their skin acts as a natural armor and a source of nutrition – like some of the Wastes inhabitants gurvel are capable of photosynthesis, or, rather, a light-catalyzed radioactive decay control, which they use to process the stores of unstable elements they consume as food. While their skin crystals also serve as a good radiation insulation and has, in fact, been used as such by other races, it is inadvisable for members of other races to remain close to a wounded gurvel for prolonged period of time. The presence of radioactive materials in their bodies resulted in both significant healing abilities and a highly increased cancer rate. All these factors combined resulted in a statistically large percentage of gurvel taking up medical professions.
A distinct advantage gurvel hold over other races is their ancestral memories. In the process of procreating, a number of most commonly used memories and skills is passed to the offspring from both their progenitors, which will slowly manifest over the course of their maturation, resulting in a significant maturity and experience advantage over the youths of other races. In gurvel hybrids with other races, and in their more distant descendants, this trait can also manifest, but only when said descendant reaches certain levels of mystical power and skill, as the biological components of the mechanism are either lacking or underdeveloped.
Gurvel are the shortest lived of the mortal races, their turn of the wheel taking only 400 or so lunar cycles. Specific treatments can extend this time by more than ten times, however the rate of cancer occurrence increases dramatically after the first thousand cycles, and most gurvel prefer the renewal to life extension.
Radioactive miniature godzilla dragon kings. With cancer, because hell. The ancestral memories is a warping of dragon king reincarnation. Radiation is from Malfean themes. Again, this is about tolerance and suffering and insular societies and all that. Also exploitation - they are at home in the Wastes outside cities, and can be dangerous to those around them, but only when actively harmed. If you puncture a gurvel's (gürvel - lizard in mongolian), you are likely to suffer radiation poisoning. So, don't puncture their skin. Does society push them out into exclaves outside the main cities? There are probably at least some settlements in the forest zones, and even in the closer wastes.
Mechanically, this is where i gave up on trying to make the races with actual traits. I don't know how this would work (armored and hell's hide, probably, and maybe some sort of toxic/radioactive blood effect? Plus regeneration).
Mechanically, this is where i gave up on trying to make the races with actual traits. I don't know how this would work (armored and hell's hide, probably, and maybe some sort of toxic/radioactive blood effect? Plus regeneration).
Possessing of highly developed optical and olfactory systems, setas are normally deaf. In modern day many young setas use cybernetic audio systems as a path of cybernetic transcension.
Seta are the race with the largest percentage of professional thaumaturgists and priests, professions which, for them, often overlap. Mirror of the Changing Moon, the founder and spiritual guide of the Covenant of the Empress-to-be is a seta from the City of Endings.
So, seta (plural setas, seta meaning mushroom in mayan), are my way of sneaking the potential for both ork type characters (seta-gurvel hybrid could both reproduce via spores and have ancestral memories), and metropolis-type characters. They are literally magic mushrooms. Not much more here, really. I am, however, attached to the design. And to how these benigs are different from all others. Where for other races death and rebirth are a natural part of life, with its own upsides and downsides, seta are biologically immortal. At some point, however, they become sessile and that changes them a lot, it's a different stage of maturity, different mind state. Rebirth literally uproots them.
The newest form of sapient life to join the society of Five Cities, machine spirits are beings of pure thought and magic, lacking a native physical form, and instead possessing various pieces of ferromantic mechanisms. Some of them trace their ancestry to the animating principles of the Ancestral Prison's systems, others to the immigrants from other realms, summoned by magi over the ages.
Similar to setas, the wheel of machine spirits existence does not turn normally. As long as their housing device keeps functioning, they keep living, and, in fact, the mature and experienced spirits can transfer from one device to the other with skill and effort. Only a relative minority of machine spirits have achieved sapience so far, but the trends of nooshperic developments indicate that as time passes, more and more such beings will emerge, and some of the already sapient spirits might achieve greater degree of enlightenment yet. Different projections predict vastly different rate of this process, from a slow linear growth, to an exponential explosion occurring some times in the next five hundred lunar cycles. Even the greatest tocatli augurs are markedly unable to provide any insight on the matter.
The freedom from bodily bindings and a potential of limitless growth machine spirits have led several radical pursuers of cybernetic transcension to pursue the path of complete noospheric transmigration, trying to completely separate their souls from their bodies and to become akin to machine spirits. So far, none succeeded, but efforts continue, marked with insanity and cruel rituals alike.
Similar to setas, the wheel of machine spirits existence does not turn normally. As long as their housing device keeps functioning, they keep living, and, in fact, the mature and experienced spirits can transfer from one device to the other with skill and effort. Only a relative minority of machine spirits have achieved sapience so far, but the trends of nooshperic developments indicate that as time passes, more and more such beings will emerge, and some of the already sapient spirits might achieve greater degree of enlightenment yet. Different projections predict vastly different rate of this process, from a slow linear growth, to an exponential explosion occurring some times in the next five hundred lunar cycles. Even the greatest tocatli augurs are markedly unable to provide any insight on the matter.
The freedom from bodily bindings and a potential of limitless growth machine spirits have led several radical pursuers of cybernetic transcension to pursue the path of complete noospheric transmigration, trying to completely separate their souls from their bodies and to become akin to machine spirits. So far, none succeeded, but efforts continue, marked with insanity and cruel rituals alike.
As soon as I made SUTRAs, I knew that machine spirits had to be a part of the setting. Thematically, they are a young race of slumbering giants. They are a threat of the future. Yes, most of them are not sapient at all, and never will become such. Do they get the same rights as the ones who achieved sapience? What should be done about the potential future rise of superhumanly intelligent godlike AI? Is total upload a form of suicide or transcendence in a setting with magic and souls? Machine spirits are exploited by definition since they inhabit tools, devices, weapons, and wouldn't be present without those. Yet, they also have their own power. These are all the questions that can be played with by including them into the setting.
So, I won't lie and say this was all thought out before I set down writing. It wasn't. Partially, I worked off aesthetics. The explanations are in many parts ex post facto, unless I buy into doing a lot of this subconsciously. I wanted to make the Court society to be hell. It is one by defintion. I wanted it to be alien to modern western society in many ways. But I also wanted it to be something born from Molly's soul. A soul of a rebel, a magician, a modern girl touched and enveloped in powers ancient beyond belief.
So, a lot of themes in the designed five races (yes, it's fivefold symmetry again) are about social acceptance, bodily change, different life cycles, and strange practices.
A lot of it (spider-kin, dragon kings, at least some human aesthetics) are also meant to be inspired by exalted, but put through a twisted mirror.
So, a lot of themes in the designed five races (yes, it's fivefold symmetry again) are about social acceptance, bodily change, different life cycles, and strange practices.
A lot of it (spider-kin, dragon kings, at least some human aesthetics) are also meant to be inspired by exalted, but put through a twisted mirror.
Again, if anyone is willing to help me with mechanical part of things, I'd be very grateful.
Sort of an aside, but could MiS let Thomas touch Justine again?
I know that it doesn't make people immune to their banes, but I vaguely recall something to the effect of his issue being that both he and his hunger want Justine and being in love making it basically impossible for a WC vamp to suppress the reflexive feeding attempt.
If MiS basically numbs that reflex so that a WC vamp has perfect control of their feeding then they might be able to make (chaste) contact again without inflicting an unfortunate burning sensation on Thomas.
I know that it doesn't make people immune to their banes, but I vaguely recall something to the effect of his issue being that both he and his hunger want Justine and being in love making it basically impossible for a WC vamp to suppress the reflexive feeding attempt.
If MiS basically numbs that reflex so that a WC vamp has perfect control of their feeding then they might be able to make (chaste) contact again without inflicting an unfortunate burning sensation on Thomas.
Depends on where she sits in the organization; Lara probably doesn't pay Rolls Royce money to every two bit vampire in her orbit. She could be the white court equivalent of the JP Morgan guys here to buy something to make them look a little more important than they actually are.
@Yog first of all I have to say that is a wonderful write up for a dark, but still interesting and nuanced technological future. Part of me is already thinking about how the various people Molly know would react to all these people being part of her soul and, at least in part, her worshipers. On the other hand I really cannot promise anything about the form of the hell until it is voted on. Still even if this does not get made canon I for one really liked the worldbuilding.
Huh. Up to this point I assumed that people just didn't age past a certain point, or simply aged without declining, since your description of the courts didn't include a cyclical reincarnation element that I recall.
Either way works, but personally I think the idea of them not really knowing about mortality as an inherent property until they interact with the wider world would be more interesting in terms of culture clash.
Overall it's very neat; I'd vote for it if we're given the option to.
Pretty sure the answer is yes.
More pertinently, he has a sister who is apparently deranged and kept in confinement.
That might be pertinent.2011 WoJ said:
Rolls start between 300k and 400k. Maintenance costs would be interesting, but she can probably afford one.
Starting basic pay for a Chicago fireman now is $62,000, going up to $98,000 after 5 years. Plus overtime and benefits
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Lara recruits quality ex-military for security, and she takes family security seriously. She's going to easily beat those renumeration figures. Never mind for a Whampire who actually has responsibilities beyond "shoot who i tell you to".
I'd be surprised if the lady isnt pulling down doctor/stockbroker money in the 200-300k range yearly.
That wont buy you a Rolls in cash, but it will keep you comfortably in a revolving parade of high end Mercedes, BMWs and Porsches.
Especially if you're single.
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Oh, I perfectly understand. This is just me working on my future vote. I am trying to cover all the bases.
To be honest, I didn't think about inhabitants becoming ageless. If pressed for a reason, I would point out that Endless Suffering is called Endless Suffering. It's immortality, but it isn't intended to make life better. It's intended to make suffering of hell inescapable even in second death (because remember, there are souls trapped in there of people who already died). Some form of reincarnation makes sense.
Besides, it's described as follows:
Note that the mechanism of perpetuation is explicitely "reconstitution after perishing".
As to not knowing about death - well, there's a built-in way to escape the cycle of reincarnation, which has been described previously. It's not a "natural" way, but it is there. So, most assume they'll be there forever, but going through the cycles of life.
Good news: all of this is covered by the Fomori rules from Werewolf and Riot of Flesh, no issues.
Bad news: boy that's still a lot of work.
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nice work. This does look like a more pleasant world of yomi. Notably close in themes to Wicked City. A couple notes here from what I remember from "1000 Hells".
In general, more Yang aspected worlds can be teeming with life, with demons, sinners and guests from other layers of reality interbreeding into bizarre forms of life. More Yin aspected ones are usually more barren.
Humans - indeed there are a plethora of humans (souls and alive) in Yomi. Wicked City has similar cyborgization going on.
Spiders - Yomi in WoD has a very large population of Kumo (werespiders). Who procreate prolifically pretty much anywhere a (demon) spider can survive. So again - fits well. For the other parts of it - thematically very fitting once again.
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