Yes.
Bond to a Dragons Nest, and her Essence regen goes up IIRC.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Bond to a Dragons Nest, and her Essence regen goes up IIRC.
I would say the sort of beings the Oblivion war targets are a whole lot more hardy than any Old Gods and I cannot say more than that without spoilers
- Path magic does not need Mana when you can throw as many successes at it as an Exalt can so the mana path is kind of superfluous.
- Ah... no I was referring to the bleach bath special (TM) letting her regen Essence
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Why not? We can get XP quite quickly with this. This is exactly an option to gain XP before meeting Mab. Do a bunch of short term low hanging fruit side-quests to gain XP.
Difficulty modifiers and dice adders are far more relevant here. I see more opportunity to gain XP in technology excellency than I do in etiquette 4.
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It got edited out, but here's a quote of me quoting the original charm to pull up that section of the discussion.
Not being able to handle this one way or another is a critical issue for someone whose job is to hunt necromancers. I don't expect him to be perfect, but getting played that hard when he was specifically coming for them isn't really filling me with confidence in him.
In regards to drive, we can just put a demon in the rented car for the length of the trip.
That changes the equation a little; my understanding of canon was that losing worship didn't kill you, it just meant you had to hang out in the nevernever instead of the mortal world. Which is basically the majority of existence anyway.
No we cant.
Earth is not free real estate.
Much of this territory has claimants, even places as remote as the Andes. Most shipwrecks of any value has claimants.
Attempting to launder this stuff will draw more attention than we can currently afford.
We dont need and cant afford the aggro when we have much less perilous ways of making money.
I dont really agree.
Social combat is a very big deal.
IIRC, a couple of really powerful spells and rituals needed 1 point of mana to activate? Might be misremembering, tho.
I was mostly thinking about Infusion ** and other effects that would've allowed to expand Lydia's small essence pool into something far less limiting. Higher dots also allow a bunch of other cool things, but they are not super important rn.
In such cases mana can be replaced on a one on one basis with Essence, still not really worth the buy from what I can see
For someone who has 6 points of Essence at E2 and no way to quickly regain it, essence conservation is pretty important, and throwing away essence on something that could be powered with Mana kind of hurts. Given that mana stockpiling starts at 2 dots and gets better, it might be a decent buy for Lydia, if - big if - her Path XP costs are decent.
It is not a great buy, given that she can't convert mana into essence - alas, that would have been a pretty sharp boost - but if she does go deep into Sorcery...
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I could swear there's a quote in the ExWoD book that Exalts can utilize their Essence as if it was Mana for the purpose of augmenting Path Sorcery.
You are both putting words into my mouth and making a very strong claim.
The words you are putting into my mouth are "we are going to be looking for treasure in terms of monetary value". The claim is "there are jo unclaimed or abandoned ruins, places of power or artifacts in the Earth's oceans". Even you used "most" rather than "all".
I am proposing looking for abandoned places and objects that no one has a claim to. That's specifically designed not to draw aggro. And I am specifically proposing to look for magic, not monetary, treasure
Yes it is, but we are good at it already.
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You have seen his big moment of failure and then him laying low to escape the consequences of it.
Against Kemmler, who is anything but the norm for Necromancer, or mortal mages at all.
The guy was a genius who could have gone on to be this world's Nagash if there hadn't been a lot of powerful actors working to kill him for good.
Before that Arawn had several centuries of success in his job.
IIRC, I remember something like that. Even if it isn't a thing... It makes sense for it to be a thing?
But Lydia got pretty limited pool so I have been wondering if we can't do anything to effectively expand it, or pay for stuff with less valuable resources.
I am not looking forward to getting dunked on by Mab in social combat because she actually did prepare properly this once, and we decided to just waltz in with nothing but our broad-spectrum adjusters like BSM and No Honor.
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If this was the last charm buy before meetings Mab, I'd be the first to go all in for social stats. It's not. We need to generate as much xp as we can right now, to be in the best position to meet Mab. As such, we need as many possibilities as we can. Etiquette is not an investment that is likely to bring in much xp in short term.
Either RVD (for visiting stuff) or technology excellency (for various types of renovations) would. At least in my opinion. And I am considering switching to RVD.
We will obviously need to up our game by thr time we meet Mab.
Yzarc
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Please ping me once you add the 2xp atheletics to your vote. I will change accordingly.
OctarineShrike
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I may as well try making a plan here. Our upcoming concerns AFAIK are Rosie and protecting her against hostile spirits/ensuring she is not some destitute and homeless single mother. Preparing for another conversation with Mab. Talking to Odin. Finally there is Upgrading Porter's domain.
We've got supplies stashed in a walled off tunnel in the sewers of Cleaveland Ohio and have the skills/tools already. We need to get them into Chicago Undertown in Illinois(344.3 Miles via I80 W) or acquire another source of supplies. Potential approach. Get the White Court renegades in undertown to bring it in if they've got cars. Find a way in the Nevernever to shorten the distance between our stash and Chicago. We also need a higher technology rating for the best possible results. Nevernever plans necessitate Lydia's help or us purchasing a Charm/Calling the Calibration Gate. We could theoretically ask about what the fastest route is from the Carpenter household through the nevernever to that place in Cleaveland. The Nevernever however, is the kind of place that is worth making the effort to avoid unnecessary fights lest we get mote tapped.
Protecting Rosie against Hostile Spirits: Lydia's Ghost Warding Glyph. Approaching Mortimer Lindquist for help
Ensuring Rosie is not a Destitute Single Mother: Win the Lottery? Verdant Emptiness Endowment?
Easing Trauma: Mercy in Servitude if we decide to do that? Also VEE could do that.
Preparing for a conversation with Mab: Social training. Acquisition of things she considers worthwhile to transact for. We have the Gossamer but we could find other things or learn the Exorcism ritual.
Odin: Social Training.
Proposed Plan:
[x]Plan Nevernever
-[x]Ultimate Darkness Internalization(9 XP)
-[x]Stealth 2(5 XP)
-[x]Stealth Excellency(4 XP)
-[x]Technology 2(2 XP)
-[x]Etiquette 4(5 XP)
-[x]Athletics 2(2 XP)
We could theoretically drop the excellency to give Lydia someting, or take Calling the Calibration Gate at the cost of the extra Athletics dot
Edit: I just realized I may have forgotten something with the Price of Etiquette 4
We've got supplies stashed in a walled off tunnel in the sewers of Cleaveland Ohio and have the skills/tools already. We need to get them into Chicago Undertown in Illinois(344.3 Miles via I80 W) or acquire another source of supplies. Potential approach. Get the White Court renegades in undertown to bring it in if they've got cars. Find a way in the Nevernever to shorten the distance between our stash and Chicago. We also need a higher technology rating for the best possible results. Nevernever plans necessitate Lydia's help or us purchasing a Charm/Calling the Calibration Gate. We could theoretically ask about what the fastest route is from the Carpenter household through the nevernever to that place in Cleaveland. The Nevernever however, is the kind of place that is worth making the effort to avoid unnecessary fights lest we get mote tapped.
Protecting Rosie against Hostile Spirits: Lydia's Ghost Warding Glyph. Approaching Mortimer Lindquist for help
Ensuring Rosie is not a Destitute Single Mother: Win the Lottery? Verdant Emptiness Endowment?
Easing Trauma: Mercy in Servitude if we decide to do that? Also VEE could do that.
Preparing for a conversation with Mab: Social training. Acquisition of things she considers worthwhile to transact for. We have the Gossamer but we could find other things or learn the Exorcism ritual.
Odin: Social Training.
Proposed Plan:
[x]Plan Nevernever
-[x]Ultimate Darkness Internalization(9 XP)
-[x]Stealth 2(5 XP)
-[x]Stealth Excellency(4 XP)
-[x]Technology 2(2 XP)
-[x]Etiquette 4(5 XP)
-[x]Athletics 2(2 XP)
We could theoretically drop the excellency to give Lydia someting, or take Calling the Calibration Gate at the cost of the extra Athletics dot
Edit: I just realized I may have forgotten something with the Price of Etiquette 4
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Then he failed complete against the exact necromancers he's necessary to control. You don't need a god to stomp on idiots playing with corpses in their sheds.
Corpsetaker and Holt punking him while he was in town hunting them is a damning failure.
Centuries of alleged success against unknown odds with unknown support don't exactly wipe
away his visible problems.
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Keep in mind that Lydia can open Ways to and from the Nevernever.
It's kinda suboptimal to take it ourselves.
OctarineShrike
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@DragonParadox how practical is using the crown to ask for nevernever directions to a location from a location?
Edit: @Artemis1992 We shouldn't presume she'll be there for us all the time, she might have something pressing to do preventing her from acting as our Nevernever assistant.
Edit2: Artemis whose name doesn't end in 1992, if you saw yourself get tagged here it was a typo.
Edit: @Artemis1992 We shouldn't presume she'll be there for us all the time, she might have something pressing to do preventing her from acting as our Nevernever assistant.
Edit2: Artemis whose name doesn't end in 1992, if you saw yourself get tagged here it was a typo.
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OctarineShrike
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It's the cheapest source of Nevernever transport we could conceivably use that doesn't involve bumming transport off Lydia
Not very, the ways change such that you would have to burn a lot of Essence on questions to give yourself a relatively small bonus to navigation rolls.
OctarineShrike
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Since my plan is a moot point then I'm just going with Uju's for the moment.
[X]Plan Water Dragon
--[X]Boiling Oil Mastery 4xp
--[X]Transcendent Lord of Flies 4xp
--[X]Mercy in Servitude 4xp
--[X]Etiquette 4 3xp
--[X]Technology 2 2xp
-[X] Lydia
--[X]Essence 2: 8XP
[X]Plan Water Dragon
--[X]Boiling Oil Mastery 4xp
--[X]Transcendent Lord of Flies 4xp
--[X]Mercy in Servitude 4xp
--[X]Etiquette 4 3xp
--[X]Technology 2 2xp
-[X] Lydia
--[X]Essence 2: 8XP
