I find it highly unlikely in their entire history that not a single one has become a red court vampire. Red courts literally existed like 5 times longer than them and they've had plenty of wardens in that time.
Citation needed for this.
I just meant in existence not politically speaking. Though its not beyond imagination a couple red court vampires have reached europe via the nevernever probably never in large amounts though.
In existence? Sure. As a power worth courting for a wizard? Nope.
The implication thats carefully implied but not stated in the RPG books is that they've been around for longer than the Red Court was a power. Either servants of the old pantheon that pulled a coup, or some entity that assumed the form of that pantheons servants.
Well, in an interview, he states that it's red court vampires that make a choice:
And here's the issue: if a red court vampire is a different being than the mortal who murdered someone else to satisfy the desire that does not need to be satisfied, then they wouldn't be tainted by that sin. Well, ok, ancestral sin is a thing in Christianity. So, either the red court vampire is a sort of a child of the person who was turned, created through a murder ritual, but they themselves only inherit fault of their ancestor along with their memories, and are otherwise innocent, or the red court vampire is the same being, and are guilty of murder.
This to me strongly implies that Mab against humanity ends up with victory to humanity.
Which one was that?
Defeat to Mab, loss to all. Since the Fae for all their assholery handle vital functions of reality for humanity.
I suspect it ends with a victory for nobody.
Not a charm, an ancient sorcery spell. Invitation of poisoned dreams.
1)I dont know.
It's kind of a silly scenario to entertain even at this level. They're faerie queens, not comic book supervillains.
It kinda sorta might be... Dredge the deepest pits of NeverNever. Explore the far shores of underworld. Decypher mad scribblings on the wall of the prison tombs hidden in the subtle realms. Learn the dread names of the King of Kings, the Principle of Hierarchy, the Shadow of Creation and others. Summon their Fetich souls from beyond the mouth of Oblivion, pulling them up through the tethers woven in your exaltation.
A fundamental assumption of ExWoD is that those guys are all super dead, so I doubt it. Bringing them back would just make a mess of things without really adding much of value.
I don't expect us to ever use the system, really. I can imagine edge cases and contrived scenarios, but realistically, Molly is a child of a subculture that is not big on trading with devils and is surrounded by people (whom she respects) who would all but scream at her that dealing with devils is a bad idea. If this game is alive in a year or more and Molly gets awfully comfortable with suborning powers of the dark to do her biddings, maybe...
Patron of Liminals and Autokun are still around in ExWoD's default setting. And I think fragments of Luna retain more of Luna-that-was than most of everyone else. We aren't there tho.
The assumption is that they are far away as to not matter - either slumbering in some far away realm, dead or away. As I understand, however, as long as infernal exaltations exist, Yozi can never be truly gone. And at least Usum, who is a demon from the age of Legends (I forget - what kind of demon is he anyway?) survived.
Oh, I truly understand. I don't expect to cheese the system. The most I expect is getting a lot of plot out of this, possibly, in some distant future. Like, maybe a boon, but also a quest to bring them into reality, and a choice of whether to do it, and on what terms.
You are talking about learning Charms though, right?
Quick question: while the Fallen obviously don't retain access to their White God charm tree, do they retain enough knowledge to teach them?
By their nature exalted shards can take in any investiture of power from any powerful person. Called opening their charm set to an exalted. The exalted can then develop those same powers and charms for themselves. It why DragonBlood Akuma, where a real problem as suddenly they get an entire Yozi charmset on top of their own to work with.
