Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

I reckon that these beings aren't the sort to just being able to pummel us to death using claws and elemental bolt attacks? Are there any esoteric effect, magical items or uber-powerful magic that they posses?

Like... can they rain down hail of storms upon us as if to recreate Fimbulwinter?
Trolls are very stompy, with the others it varies. As a rule, DF magic is very good at the weirder stuff. The good Sidhe casters don't fight much on screen, but fey are famous for their shenanigans and we do see some impressive non-combat stuff, like turning off a half vampire's powers on the fly.

Or how Harry's fairy godmother wanted to curse him into becoming a hellhound for her kennel.

They'd probably start with murder squads, but they aren't built like dnd warlocks if that's what you're asking.
 
Speaking of Enemy 5, what are the top dogs that Winter can levy against us? Something exceedingly deadly, possibly strong enough to fight us on its lonesome, besides Mab herself of course.
At present? Not much. The Leandsidhe is the second biggest active player in Winter and she's currently imprisoned in the same garden Usum was in. The Scarecrow was a big player, but he's just been smashed.

That leaves the Winter Lady, Cat Sith, the Redcap and the Winter Knight. (Provided we kill Slate) The Redcap's a filthy coward won't fight unless he's dead sure we're going to die and Cat Sith is an assassin, likely the replacement to scarecrow. The Winter Lady hasn't been doing her job for centuries beyond showing up to the fights, and it's as likely that she'll try to convert us against her mom as fight us.

The Winter Knight is definitely dangerous, but that's proportional to the person wielding the mantle.

Winter was in a bad place for most of the series.
 
At present? Not much. The Leandsidhe is the second biggest active player in Winter and she's currently imprisoned in the same garden Usum was in. The Scarecrow was a big player, but he's just been smashed.

That leaves the Winter Lady, Cat Sith, the Redcap and the Winter Knight. (Provided we kill Slate) The Redcap's a filthy coward won't fight unless he's dead sure we're going to die and Cat Sith is an assassin, likely the replacement to scarecrow. The Winter Lady hasn't been doing her job for centuries beyond showing up to the fights, and it's as likely that she'll try to convert us against her mom as fight us.

The Winter Knight is definitely dangerous, but that's proportional to the person wielding the mantle.

Winter was in a bad place for most of the series.
And their response to being in a bad place was to piss of Harry Dresden? And the Carpenters? Of all people???
 
At present? Not much. The Leandsidhe is the second biggest active player in Winter and she's currently imprisoned in the same garden Usum was in. The Scarecrow was a big player, but he's just been smashed.

That leaves the Winter Lady, Cat Sith, the Redcap and the Winter Knight. (Provided we kill Slate) The Redcap's a filthy coward won't fight unless he's dead sure we're going to die and Cat Sith is an assassin, likely the replacement to scarecrow. The Winter Lady hasn't been doing her job for centuries beyond showing up to the fights, and it's as likely that she'll try to convert us against her mom as fight us.

The Winter Knight is definitely dangerous, but that's proportional to the person wielding the mantle.

Winter was in a bad place for most of the series.
I always took those guys to be the people they had available around Dresden, not necessarily everything they had. Especially since they're still manning the outer gates.

Their main issues in canon were related to mantle shenanigans and Nemesis plots, not a lack of stomping power.

If they didn't have sufficient force to be respected no one would care about the Unseelie Accords, and the White Council/Red Court wouldn't have been so touchy about pissing them off during their war.

Hell, we even see that there are more forces around during that whole thing at the stone table.
 
Winter is an entire country made out of people that can turn invisible and eat babies. They have a standing army. They are lead by literal gods and goddesses.

Acting like named characters, that aren't really out to kill a guy who's been family with them since birth, is the best they can pull for people starting trouble with them is patently a bad idea.
 
[X] As much as you hate to leave anyone like this, listen to Harry and run

Don't be stupid, this is an insult Mab has to answer personally, and she's a Big Fucking Name, arguably in the top five or so in the entire setting--and she combines unreasonable power with enough cunning to play a very long game.

What's worse, even winning is bad, because now the Outsiders can get in when you've all but decapitated the chain of command. Because as it so happens, Winter is the first line of defense against anything trying to get in through the Outer Gates, and her successor is even worse than she is.

So yeah, don't be absurd, making a personal enemy of Mab is a very quick way to limit your options sharply.
 
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Been looking around and found a what looks like a cheap combo, Boiling sea mastery, and Charred sinner renewal, both 1 dot charms. The former lowers difficultly by 1 when wet. And the Later causes an acid rain when you take on the Shintai form. Given taking the Shintai form is generally is for combat that sounds like a pretty deadly way to open up combat.
 
Been looking around and found a what looks like a cheap combo, Boiling sea mastery, and Charred sinner renewal, both 1 dot charms. The former lowers difficultly by 1 when wet. And the Later causes an acid rain when you take on the Shintai form. Given taking the Shintai form is generally is for combat that sounds like a pretty deadly way to open up combat.
Rains good. Especially for Swihlin charms. The rain does 1 bashing damage a minute though.
 
And their response to being in a bad place was to piss of Harry Dresden? And the Carpenters? Of all people???
More like Molly was take out dinner for the fetches. They only showed up because Molly mindraped her friends into being afraid of drugs so their baby wouldn't die and they only went after her because Dresden dumped a load of fear onto her. (There is a story behind all of this, but this is already spoilers so I won't go into detail.) And the Carpenters are just good people, they have no special powers. At present they've only got a warded saferoom too, the angels only showed up until after Michael retired due to his injuries.

I always took those guys to be the people they had available around Dresden, not necessarily everything they had. Especially since they're still manning the outer gates.

Their main issues in canon were related to mantle shenanigans and Nemesis plots, not a lack of stomping power.

If they didn't have sufficient force to be respected no one would care about the Unseelie Accords, and the White Council/Red Court wouldn't have been so touchy about pissing them off during their war.

Hell, we even see that there are more forces around during that whole thing at the stone table.
Oh they've almost certainly got more, but how many of them can be spared to fight us and how many of those are strong enough to kill us? That's a very small number, and you need to do a lot to change that. The majority of Winter's strength is tied up at the gates and cannot be moved. The rest of it has to deal with Summer, a fight that they have been loosing for a while now.
 
It's interesting that Usum compared the winter fey to a Raksha.

When the direct comparison "informed chaotic being from outside reality" would be the Raksha of Exalted and Outsiders.

Might have been a blip on his part, but maybe the winter court used to be something very different... and then again perhaps not.

Further if the wild and the outside are... well I think they are pretty similar? Especially knowing about things like shaped and unashaped Raksha.

Does that make Creation and the Dresden universe analogous as well?
 
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[X] Technology

[X] As much as you hate to leave anyone like this, listen to Harry and run

We'll make enough enemies just by being what we are and doing our thing.
No need to escalate this fast, the escalation-train is still sheduled and will arrive soon.
 
[X] Fuck Queen Mab and all her kind (Enemy Winter Court increases by ●●●)
-[X] Kill the man as he asks (+3 frebie points to spend; the Mantle returns to Mab's keeping as it cannot bond to you)

i am sseriously not seeing why you guys are worried so much, we have seen mab fight and its not that impressive. A mid tier combat speced solar would anhilate her.

we can take on the child murdering fae piece of shits every day and any day of the week.


The fact of the matter is thay they eat babies, and we will never have piece with such a faction, so might as well get some exp to start our war.
 
OK, it looks like Slate does not get saved and you guys stay mostly off Winter's shit list. I did not think it was that likely you would take it, but it would have been fun, what with all the soul searching that would come with having your own loyal psychopath on hand, then what it would mean to make the Mantle's mental influence less. All sorts of fun Am I turning into Mab? questions while actual Mab does her best to kill you.

Still the winning vote does have it's own foundation in the character, it's not just being worried about Winter.
Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Jul 1, 2022 at 6:53 PM, finished with 77 posts and 17 votes.
 
Arc 0 Post 7: Flight into Peril
Flight into Peril

Your fingers are curl tighter on the hilt of your sword. I could kill the man, end his suffering., you know. Harry isn't fast enough to stop you unless he uses magic and he wouldn't do that against you, but something holds you back you. It's not not a dark insight of of shadow and flame, nor whisper of your new head-bound companion, but a very human reminder of how you got here to begin with. You tried to use magic you barely understood to help Rosie, to save the baby... and look where it had gotten them. There are many things you do not know about the bargain you had made back there, but one thing is for sure, you have a lot more power than the Molly Carpenter who decided to spin fear into a spell, power to make things right, and power to screw them up. Harry knows what he is about

Turning so fast the world blurs you run, that was it you were just running too quickly you were not crying for the man you had left to the mercies of the things that had taken you.

The mountains crack, the skies shake as the darkness of Winter overcomes them, no cloud against the face of the sun this, but the pal of all mortal fears in deepest winter, in darkest night that the sun would never come again. Howls of wolves and screeches of the mad and the damned and horns, always the horns, closer and closer, calling the savage glee of the hunt.

There is something almost familiar to it... and it pisses you off even more.

Harry looked at the not quite-a-man with something like recognition of his own. "Keep moving."

"What's your name?" you ask suddenly of the man, ignoring the funny look your mother gives you. "It's just I have been thinking of you as 'that guy' in my head and that's just rude when I could ask your name..."

Something behind you cackles loudly like a thunder cloud trying to be the wicked witch of the west, but he still manages to get out. "Thomas Raith."

"Karin Murphy," the blonde woman with the gun says, in the sort of no-nonsense tone you associate with Mister Weis the Not-Fun Assistant Principal. "Chicago PD." Probably for the best that you did not offer to carry her even if she is six inches shorter than you and you are not tall for your age.

Carrying cops or no the snow is getting thicker as the howling song of the hunt seems to grasp the heavens, sweeping sheets of white in your path and unlike you the others don't grow stronger with it.

"Hold up," Harry said, stopping up ahead. "We should take off the armor..." He does as he says, taking off the duster and the chainmail underneath... and then he tossed it at Thomas.

As the dark haired man sputters he says: "You're strong enough that it won't slow you down..."

"I'm strong too," you pipe in, relieved that you could help with something. No one says anything this time about the mark of your inhumanity, but maybe it was because the green light had finally faded, the only sign that you were something more than a normal girl now was how fast you could go carrying all this stuff.

The ground grows uneven under your feet, a mass of tangled roots poking out like the frozen limbs of some long forgotten battle and rattling thorns that pull at your legs. Sneakers, not the best shoes for running from a coterie of evil fairies, dully noted.

"Your pardon August Lady, but they do not seem to be very good at sneaking either..."

As you struggle to think of a way to explain that without making Usum think you were laughing at them Harry points at something up ahead, a ripple in the curtain of worlds forty yards or so up the slope. the moments he does so the tangle of roots between you and it explodes with black chittering things with far too many legs. Twice as long as a man is tall and big enough that their heads come up to your waist, you would call them spiders expect they seem to think that eight legs are far too few and they are not picky about where they grow those legs either, an arachnophobe's nightmare

"Molly, get back!" your mother calls, but the sword is already in your hand. No way are you going to let them fight these things alone, there's five of them that you can see in the snow, with more of them maybe hidden among the roots.

How do you fight?

[] Only with the sword and essence-enhancement, don't make it too obvious you are using your powers in front of your mother
-[] Write in Stunt, optional

[] There's horrible giant spiders, come to eat all of you, now is not the time for less fire, it's time for more.
-[] Write in Stunt, optional

[] Write in


OOC: in canon this is Ogres, but the butterflies have already well and truly started to flap their wings
 
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I can make a good stunt for this scene. But first...

@DragonParadox what does the terrain looks like? What are the things surrounding us? I need visuals.

You are in a snowy field that climbs toward where the ridge of the hill is with the gate at the top. There are no living plants in sight, just a few gnarled dead trees with most of their branches broken by he wind and a lot of blackened roots. It's almost like there was a forest here at one point and it was incinerated down to the roots, leaving them intact.
 
-[ ] Your refusal flies from your lips as you lunge forward, bisecting the closest spider with a vertical swing.

-[ ] Feeling the pulse of the sword in your grip quicken in anticipation you are struck by a sudden wave of... gratitude. "Thank you Usum" you whisper, before leaping over the fanged maw of a charging horror, planting first your sneaker, and then your scimitar into the back the nightmarish reimagining of the spider. Then ripping diagonally through the abdomen in a spray of fluid and entrails. "You saved my life."


Mmm. Still dont have a good feel for the stunts. Might delete this later I dont know.

Wether molly would feel gratitude for "selling" her soul, wether more credit should go to Harry. Not sure. Still perhaps Usum deserves some recognition. No better option or not.

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Ooh. More stunts! This is what my 3am brain came up with so I am curious.
 
-[ ] Your refusal flies from your lips as you lunge forward, bisecting the closest spider with a vertical swing.

-[ ] Feeling the pulse of the sword in your grip quicken in anticipation you are struck by a sudden wave of... gratitude. "Thank you Usum" you whisper, before leaping over the fanged maw of a charging horror, planting first your sneaker, and then your scimitar into the back the nightmarish reimagining of the spider. Then ripping diagonally through the abdomen in a spray of fluid and entrails. "You saved my life."


Mmm. Still dont have a good feel for the stunts. Might delete this later I dont know.

Wether molly would feel gratitude for "selling" her soul, wether more credit should go to Harry. Not sure. Still perhaps Usum deserves some recognition. No better option or not.

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Ooh. More stunts! This is what my 3am brain came up with so I am curious.
We haven't even properly escaped yet, can't this wait?
 
The effects of GSNF against multiple foes that look kinda mook-like here is limited, compared to the cost in essence. Better go for pure swording, with our massive dicepool.


[X] Only with the sword and essence-enhancement, don't make it too obvious you are using your powers in front of your mother
-[X] Take point, use your newfound toughness. Harry is at his best when he can blast from some distance and your mother is vastly more vulnerable than you are currently. With a single jump you are among your foes, cutting through legs and strangly segmented torsos, using your inhuman grace to avoid most of the spraying ichor around you.
 
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