I think it's about Lunar shard that is in the belly of a dragon in the northern ocean. The Abyssal one is also deep under sea, but I think it's somewhere in the south part of the globe (don't ask me why I think so, I don't remember).
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
When and how did we figure out there was one in the stomach of a dragon??
Bought the story off the fey. Technically we don't know it for sure because it was allegorical, but it probably was a lunar exaltation.
It might embedded in another magical super weapon as a power source as well, making this a sort of fucked up turducken of mass murder.
DragBalar? Drageyelun? Something like that.
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Okay, but we don't actually have to tell them exactly what Odin's doing that makes them want to target him. Just go "He's doing something that's interfering in one of their plans, and they want to distract him to get him to stop doing that." That's completely true, and also more specific than they were probably hoping to get from such a small lead.
There's a middle ground between outright lies and full disclosure, and the fuzziness and unreliability of non-Exalted divination gives us plenty of excuses to play in it.
There's a middle ground between outright lies and full disclosure, and the fuzziness and unreliability of non-Exalted divination gives us plenty of excuses to play in it.
During Vegas we where told that the abyssal shard would show up on the otherside of the world compared to the solar one iirc. So probably from there?
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Yes, and so we can sell the full information to Odin in exchange for favor. I'm more than willing to finally gain something from him instead of finally just owing him.
We're in a frightening amount of debt to him, but it's not like he hasn't delivered value for our money. Hell, just the Jade contacts necessary to trade the Big Book of Yomi Wan* were insanely valuable and they weren't even the point of that last deal.
I get your point, but it seems worth noting we aren't exactly dealing with a student loan type over exploitation situation here. We just really need to pay our goddamn bills before we get in trouble over them.
* Just realized I forgot to add a section using this against the red court to the custom option suggestion vote.
Just imagine poking the Elder Jades with an offer like: I give you the deepest secrets of Yomi Wan that you can't possibly get without descending into hell and performing dangerous experiments under the noses of the Yama Kings. You take a trip to South America and destroy as much of the Red Court as you can get your hands on.
That's real "why would anyone do this" level violence.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Okay so.. Kingfisher is probably one of those fish people fomor right?
That sounds like a good way to address the Library then.
More importantly though;
What are people thinking about the Exaltation/superweapon that Odin and Kingfisher are after? Do we just want to let him and the probably Fomorian have at it or do we want to help Odin in retrieving it or do we want to instead take it for ourselves?
Want some answers here because I can think of at least three different Crown foci for Odin we could use to ask what he's after (since Molly doesn't know and we aren't sure either), for its exact location and also ask what he got from us during our last phone conversation while we are at it so the most important question here is intent.
Personally I'm leaning towards grabbing it for ourselves. If it's a superweapon or Exaltation I'd rather us have it than Odin or a Fomor. Info on it was our gift from Lily too in recompense for freeing her from the Mantle turning her into someone else.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Huh, I just figured Kingfisher was the name of the ship being used to conduct the search.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Oof, actually it could be. The text is unclear. Either Kingfisher is the ship or there are at least three different parties involved, Kingfisher (probably Fomorian), Odin, and whomever EvilBob is working for/with.Huh, I just figured Kingfisher was the name of the ship being used to conduct the search.
@DragonParadox Is Kingfisher the boat or a person?
Huh, I just figured Kingfisher was the name of the ship being used to conduct the search.
Since it was brought up I can confirm, it felt like the name of the boat to Molly... which means you can look it up, it's not like there are countless research ships in the world and they have a paper trail
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
So probably this one.Since it was brought up I can confirm, it felt like the name of the boat to Molly... which means you can look it up, it's not like there are countless research ships in the world and they have a paper trail
Ship KINGFISHER (Research/Survey Vessel) Registered in Norway - Vessel details, Current position and Voyage information - IMO 8028541, MMSI -8028541, Call sign LENT
Vessel KINGFISHER is a Research/Survey Vessel, Registered in Norway. Discover the vessel's particulars, including capacity, machinery, photos and ownership. Get the details of the current Voyage of KINGFISHER including Position, Port Calls, Destination, ETA and Distance travelled - IMO 8028541...
www.marinetraffic.com
Icy waters indeed.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
@DragonParadox Just to make sure, Clippy records our calls too right?
Technically we do have a pissed off nat sec apparatus right there waiting to be prodded.Since it was brought up I can confirm, it felt like the name of the boat to Molly... which means you can look it up, it's not like there are countless research ships in the world and they have a paper trail
If there's anyone who can make that kind of analysis work in the mortal world it's those guys. It's legitimately frightening how much information they have and their ability to figure stuff out from it when they really want to.
Their decision making ability past that point is … let's call it dubious on a good day*, but this part they're good at.
* I'm guessing the number of black ops weenies who've tried to waterboard a vampire in this setting is not zero. A distressingly high not zero.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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[x] Go openly
-[x][Stunt] "So why should we listen to some girl who looks like she is barely out of highschool?" "Because my password isn't passwordswordfish. Really I had expected better of the NASA".
-[x][Stunt] "So why should we listen to some girl who looks like she is barely out of highschool?" "Because my password isn't passwordswordfish. Really I had expected better of the NASA".
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I mean, if we wanted to get in openly, we could use the disguise we used with the chairman of the Federal Reserve (which is a major asset that we haven't used yet) and a change of clothes.
A little help from IRIS and we could pretend very, very well that we got important information without it being supernatural, just a secret government IT team.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
We didn't use a disguise with him. It was a phone call.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Either people are busy or don't have strong opinions on it because I got no responses. So I'm going to put this out there and see what people think.
I thought about it but not telling the Library everything will probably result in a subterfuge roll but I'm not quite sure since the way I framed it here technically tells no lies just omits information.
Anyway, if we ask what Odin is after and it's precise location either one of those should count as a supernatural secret to trigger the Urge. I carried over the question from the earlier plan to be clear.
[X] Plan: The One Piece Is Real
-[X][Stunt] You guys were a little off the mark. Whomever infiltrated government systems aimed to sabotage Odin through Monoc Securities to disrupt his operations. He's after something that they want but what that is exactly I cannot say. As for the servers, I believe it would be less of a hassle if I went openly under a false guise.
-[X] Go openly, let Von Trier make you a paper trail for the security clearance needed.
--[X] Use BMI to change your hair to brown and give your face minor alterations so as not to be recognized as Molly and make your way to the NSA building with water travel
---[X] Introduce yourself using the false persona Von Trier and you came up with and make your way to the servers
----[X] Crown Question- Focus Servers: What other locations have been infiltrated by the party responsible for the compromising of these severs
-[X] After hanging up the phone you do some quick searching with Clippy and get a picture of the Kingfisher
--[X] Crown Question- Focus Kingfisher picture: What prize older and brighter than the stars above does Odin intend to retrieve with this vessel
---[X] Follow up Crown Question- Focus Recording of first conversation with Odin: What is the precise location of (whatever the previous Crown Question reveals) that Odin is after
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One thing that we cannot do under any circumstances allow to happen is to let Odin know we are involved before we, first, verify it's an exaltation, and b) secure it, ideally in a host. Why? Because we owe Odin, and he can and will use all of his favors with us to tell us "step aside, don't interfere". I am not prepared for the Father of Hosts to get a loyal exalt of their own, neither Abyssal, nor Lunar, especially if the Lunar shard is our mate (narrative convenience!)
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
I agree. My plan seems like the logical next step there, make Molly aware of exactly what it is at stake here and it's location. I want to point out though that Odin only has one free favor with us and Lydia and the other is for a us to craft him something.
[X] BoredMan
We know that Gard was not able to recognize Molly as an exalt, despite consulting with what ancient lore was available to her - and I presume that as one of Odin's valkyries, she has access to his library and to the man himself at least in part. Despite that, she had no idea what Molly was at all during the Marcone interlude (unless she was baldly and directly lying to Marcone, which is possible, but I find unlikely). This is despite Solars and Infernals both having been active in MIddle East in the last 10 thousand years, the time at which Odin at least should have been alive. Now, it's possible that the news simply didn't reach him due to how less connected the world was back then, or there's some geas, akin to worldwide permanent Night Swallows Secrets, that prevents Odin from sharing the knowledge or acting on it. But I think the more likely possibility is that he didn't see fit to brief Gard for some reason.
So, what Odin thinks he's after, what the crew of the vessel think they are after, and what they are going to get may be three different things, and the question is open to interpretation.
Also, if this is an exaltation, we need to start thinking candidates very, very quickly.
The question is potentially problematic. What the vessel might be after and what they are going to actually find might be two different things. What Odin sent them to get, what the crew of the vessel think they were sent to get, what the Evil Bob's side thinks they are after, and what the prize actually is may be four (or perhaps even five, depending on how Bob's side works) different things.
We know that Gard was not able to recognize Molly as an exalt, despite consulting with what ancient lore was available to her - and I presume that as one of Odin's valkyries, she has access to his library and to the man himself at least in part. Despite that, she had no idea what Molly was at all during the Marcone interlude (unless she was baldly and directly lying to Marcone, which is possible, but I find unlikely). This is despite Solars and Infernals both having been active in MIddle East in the last 10 thousand years, the time at which Odin at least should have been alive. Now, it's possible that the news simply didn't reach him due to how less connected the world was back then, or there's some geas, akin to worldwide permanent Night Swallows Secrets, that prevents Odin from sharing the knowledge or acting on it. But I think the more likely possibility is that he didn't see fit to brief Gard for some reason.
So, what Odin thinks he's after, what the crew of the vessel think they are after, and what they are going to get may be three different things, and the question is open to interpretation.
Also, if this is an exaltation, we need to start thinking candidates very, very quickly.
BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Well the crew has to be at least somewhat aware of what to look for to actually know when they've retrieved what Odin sent them for. I'll rephrase the questions a bit.
Yeah I can't remember what was revealed in Odin's interlude he may be aware of what it is. I need to go back and check.
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BoredMan
Dinosaurs came in many flavors. Like potato chips.
Okay this is what Odin knows or knew back then.