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[X] Yog
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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It's neat, but I'm just not a fan of the dialog. It doesn't feel very context sensitive to me for lack of a better term for all that it invokes Aztec imagery.
The aim of my stunt is in part to leverage the same personality traits that were apparently so deeply ingrained that the reds couldn't twist his mind enough to just do what they wanted instead of attacking the unjust.
The rule of three is the gold standard, so it references the past crimes against his family, present crimes against the people putting faith in them*, and the future/in progress ambitions of the court to snuff out wizardry as a tradition in an attempt to permanently put mortals under their thumb. It pulls some specific strings and presents a reason beyond pure revenge to come back.
He has a lot to hold against the reds but a good hook needs an arc to it; something to pull things into specific focus and align the target's interests with the objective.
Perhaps Mallko is tired enough to let go of revenge for himself/his family, but wouldn't it be painful to leave his legacy to be abused in the most blasphemous way possible? If the ache of that has dulled with time, then what about the possibility of them committing newer - grander - crimes because he wasn't there to stop them?
A good recruitment pitch shouldn't feel like a bargain, it should feel like the most natural thing in the world.
* We specifically know that the reds impersonate the gods they killed and fail to fulfill the promises made in their names. Any god worth the name is going to give a shit about their whole reason for being and a god of law especially would find this enraging.
Arc 14 Post 17: Of Sky and Earth
Of Sky and Earth
18th of February 2007 A.D.
"There's something wrong...."
"With feeding himself to vampires?" your other self echoes across a web of minds. "Yea think?"
"It's not... I think it's better than whatever they were trying to do. Can you try to snap him out of it?"
She lands with a crack on the frozen earth in the middle of the clearing. "Get off, this might get messy," she calls to the wizards, much to Carlos's confusion, not that one can blame him. About twenty seconds ago you'd have assumed the opposite instruction as well.
"One of the gods of the land got loose and it's doing..." you motion at the slowly transforming vampires. "This."
"And you wish to put a stop to it." It is not as it turns out just Tiffany who can sound particularly snooty talking French, judging from Marguerite it's a gift of native speakers as well.
"Don't think they'll be coming back...." Before you can finish your reasoning the brass talons dig deep into the ground almost like a cat who really really wants to get under the rug. Roots snap pock and crackle like old bones and under them stones turn. It looks... it feels... like nothing's happening. Maybe she can't reach deep enough, maybe she's just not strong enough.... Maybe I'm not strong enough.
"I hear them... these are not... these are not my childr... No... no... what has become of you... No!"
Truth be told you are not sure what you had been expecting out of the act. What you had gotten is gut-rending sorrow which makes you very glad you still have your mental guard up. For the wizards who hadn't even known what on Earth was happening it must have been even worse. Carlos punches a rock to focus, Morgan grips his sword so tight you could swear you hear his fingers creak as the illusionist staggers back almost a though from a physical blow. Lady Marguerite takes it the best for all her eyes are swimming in tears they seem no less focused while Zadock the blood-shrouded sinks slowly to his knees and starts to babble.
"I can't leave them for Him again, they don't deserve the Hunger... no one, nothing does. I do not have long to speak to you Maiden, they will come again and bring chains and they will take me from myself for all I might fight it. Fly fast and fly hard! I will try to carve out a cost for my shackling though I am no warrior. Perhaps this time I shall be counted as not worth the leeching..."
"Great one!" You speak, your voice amplified by the winds of deepest wastes, breath heated by the fires of the ring of life, your speech a glimpse into the world of your soul: "Know this, in your last moments under this sun: The Wheel Turns, and the Sixth Dawn is Coming! Join hands with me against those who killed you and yours, and with the same surety as the rising of sun, I say to you - you will also rise, free of that which ails you!"
Lost 1 Essence -> Now at 13/18 (Excelency)
"I... I see and yet I do not for they have plucked out my eyes long ago, my heart knows the truth of your words even while my mind has been made hollow long ago. Child your kindness begets danger, there can be no other way. I can reach across and be safe, a guest, but I... I cannot let go. I am of the land and the land is of me!"
A Gateway, he's talking about an actual Gateway to Sanctuary, right here in the middle of Red Court territory, one he doesn't know how to close, though you might be able to in time.
What do you say?
[] Regretfully Goodbye, you cannot take the risk
[] You are saving an ancient Peruvian God today and that's final, you'll find some way to guard the gate or sever it later
[] Write in
OOC: The thing about this particular God, he's rooted in the land and the people, he literally cannot all come with you as you are. Now you are one of the Celestial Exalted, you can solve the problem eventually, but in the meantime your soul would have a backdoor to one of least mystically safe parts of the world. Basically how Hard do you think you are and how well do you think you can persuade the Red King of that fact.
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[X] You are saving an ancient Peruvian God today and that's final, you'll find some way to guard the gate or sever it later
I enjoy escalating our war with the Red Court.
Or, in a simple sentence "Come at me, bro".
I enjoy escalating our war with the Red Court.
Or, in a simple sentence "Come at me, bro".
[X] Plan Stargate Command
We can take them.
They can escalate.
Winter favour says we can escalate harder.
edit: they give usable loot, are evil, are active enemies, and this is a good place to send out our people to get measurements and make rituals without the normal world noticing. Its dangerous, but as i said, we are dangerous too.
-some of our most elite fighters
-a splendor or two for extra defence
-the knights
-probably some wizards, they are in an active war.
-us if we have to
-winter if we really have to
The risk is worth the reward i think.
Also i am glad we still have this option
We can take them.
They can escalate.
Winter favour says we can escalate harder.
edit: they give usable loot, are evil, are active enemies, and this is a good place to send out our people to get measurements and make rituals without the normal world noticing. Its dangerous, but as i said, we are dangerous too.
-some of our most elite fighters
-a splendor or two for extra defence
-the knights
-probably some wizards, they are in an active war.
-us if we have to
-winter if we really have to
The risk is worth the reward i think.
Also i am glad we still have this option
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- Who knows?
[X] You are saving an ancient Peruvian God today and that's final, you'll find some way to guard the gate or sever it later
Honestly yes this might be worth spending a Winter Favor on
Honestly yes this might be worth spending a Winter Favor on
[X] Regretfully Goodbye, you cannot take the risk
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[X] You are saving an ancient Peruvian God today and that's final, you'll find some way to guard the gate or sever it later
Voting for this, unless a better write in appears.
I mean, would the gate be such a bad thing, if the other opening has a constant and known location (which I assume is the case?). Then we could just station overwhelming forces on the other side to destroy anything that comes through uninvited.
Isn't the reason why we can't fully leverage our armies the issue of transporting them outside the Sanctuary? Well, that won't be a problem if they come to us, especially through a choke point into a prepared killzone. Something like the Red Court sending an army only to be faced with an industrialized magitech military and be destroyed would actually be the best case scenario to bleed their strength.
Voting for this, unless a better write in appears.
I mean, would the gate be such a bad thing, if the other opening has a constant and known location (which I assume is the case?). Then we could just station overwhelming forces on the other side to destroy anything that comes through uninvited.
Isn't the reason why we can't fully leverage our armies the issue of transporting them outside the Sanctuary? Well, that won't be a problem if they come to us, especially through a choke point into a prepared killzone. Something like the Red Court sending an army only to be faced with an industrialized magitech military and be destroyed would actually be the best case scenario to bleed their strength.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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It's not the Red Court we need to worry about, it's the Outsiders they are allies with. Putting a gate to Sanctuary in this place is Stupid, with a capital S.
If y'all are hell-bent on helping, it would be better to put this god out of its misery, something we are uniquely equipped to accomplish, or attempt to transform it into something not tied to this particular patch of real estate.
If y'all are hell-bent on helping, it would be better to put this god out of its misery, something we are uniquely equipped to accomplish, or attempt to transform it into something not tied to this particular patch of real estate.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
This ties back in to the argument had earlier about why making a permanent portal to the middle of Molly's soul is probably a bad idea. We'd have to worry about spys getting in attacks on Molly's soul as a distraction all kinds of nonsense. Outsider intruders too which the Reds are allied with etc.
Edit: Also anything that gets into the Five Courts won't just die if killed without Molly involved. The Wheel will bring them back which complicates things even further.
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Unlike most Magics we already know an ancient sorcery that can help us close a portal. Calling The Calibration Gates even if it just means that changes the destination of the portal to somewhere though it might take a bit of AP to fix but defending a fixed position for a couple of days when you have an army that can literally come pouring out of said portal isn't difficult.
Though I do wonder what quickly put up military buildings look like for the five-fold courts of Fate because it's going to need checkpoints camera setup machine guns with Spirits in them kind of around connected to set cameras sutras drones and they're going to need to be broken down and then packed back up into the portal when it's about to be fixed. I do hope we get to see what our military engineers look like.
[X] You are saving an ancient Peruvian God today and that's final, you'll find some way to guard the gate or sever it later.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
That's not what that does though. This god is connected to the land from what I understand bringing him over will result in a constant Gate from Molly's soul to this specific location because of that. We aren't going to be able to change the location of the opening. It would have to stay open right here unless/until we figure out a way to drag the rest of him over. Which could take months.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
@DragonParadox, would IDU work on this god? Would the Charm allow us to give it an ambulatory form, even if it meant shedding its nature as a god and changing it into something else entirely?
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I don't think any spies sort of maybe Nemesis are going to infiltrate the Sanctuary. It's a completely alien society, with magitech sensors and bonded spirits. So any infiltrator wouldn't be able to fit in, and tricks like shapeshifting and possession are going to run straight into the latter two.
And distraction goes both ways, a new font in the war between the Red Court and Council could be decisive at this point. There are lot of things and people we care about on Earth that are already potentially vulnerable. The enemy also has finite resources for infiltration and sabotage this side of the Outer Gates. If they are spent on attempts at Sanctuary, they can't be spent for things on Earth.
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Alas no, that works on humans not spirits. Specifically that is a charm for making powerful quasi-mortal servants, not changing the nature of gods.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Your argument of "only Nemesis would be a threat" is not very compelling, dude.
It's actually the opposite of compelling.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
..Saying that we'd only have to worry about Nemesis attacks on Sanctuary does not make this appealing. I don't want to have to worry about Nemesis shenanigans in the Five Courts.
Remember we can't use the Crown of Eyes on it because that counts as using it on the Exaltion. If Nemesis infiltrates someone there it'd cause problems. We wouldn't be able to find him just by using the Crown.
Nemesis isn't the only Outsider that jacks bodies either. Remember that while the Five Court's defences against such things are unknown to the outside world that goes both ways. The Five Courts aren't terribly aware or experienced in this regard, they'd be dealing with infiltration attempts from aliens, something that they didn't know even existed until rather recently.
This could be a shit show.
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I'm torn. I'd like to save this guy, but a portal would be very dangerous.
The question is more if we can handle the Outsiders than anything else.
I'm not afraid of a red army marching into a land where Molly is functionally god, I'm afraid of the people actually capable of contesting the white god.
As in if he is reborn under the wheel does that count as the land he is part of being reborn with it as well? If so will that give us some sort of leverage?
I've been against doing anything like this and as much as I want to save Mallko I don't see how we can risk this without something really changing the game.
An angry god turning a huge slice of real estate into territory partially under our rules might be the start of that.
Lord of the Land puts us in charge of the FCF's natural law. I think dying inside it when she's feeling hostile is as bad for your health as doing so in any other hell.
The question is more if we can handle the Outsiders than anything else.
I'm not afraid of a red army marching into a land where Molly is functionally god, I'm afraid of the people actually capable of contesting the white god.
Does this have consequences both ways?
As in if he is reborn under the wheel does that count as the land he is part of being reborn with it as well? If so will that give us some sort of leverage?
I've been against doing anything like this and as much as I want to save Mallko I don't see how we can risk this without something really changing the game.
An angry god turning a huge slice of real estate into territory partially under our rules might be the start of that.
