Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Given what was said was fun I'm going to think Reveler rather than Abyssal
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Considering that they are at max safe, when we know very well the monsters that are in min keep and that they are the "fun" type, I don't see any reason to do anything, just leave them there and take what we come to pick.
But I have a feeling that Yog will start asking for this bastards' release...
But I have a feeling that Yog will start asking for this bastards' release...
I mean, that depends. Where these guys put in there by Merlin or by Kemmler. Cause those are two different situations.
Maybe look that up before getting the anti-exalted rhetoric going again.
Maybe look that up before getting the anti-exalted rhetoric going again.
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I won't put words in their mouth but I do feel need to reiterate this I was perfectly fine killing the Knight exalted I was not okay with leaving them conscious and permanently entombed somewhere if demonreach is keeping these people in stasis and they are not Conscious I don't mind them resting here until forever because there's nothing cruel about that. It's functionally death with extra steps.
Edit: The inherent cruelty of keeping someone Awake and Alive in a prison cell forever is fucked.
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If we can built an Exaltation trap I might be interested in trying to recycle the Exaltations if that's possible.
Not before a long prep period. I would like to check on them, and see who sidereal exaltation is destined for (I am betting it's Harry or someone we know. Seriously, I'll make this bet), but my main idea would be to stash the abyssal shard of the solar-abyssal pair here, so we can release the solar more safely.
If the sidereal shard is meant for Harry, I would argue to release it, though.
We also have at least three exaltations to study now. That's a lot.
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So not that it matters here of course but canonically demonreach can't hold anything mortal in nature for very long. Thomas has maybe half a year or something before he's thrown out at best. Mortal includes shit like nicodemus by the way. Though again doesn't matter here obviously but just wanted to say it. Also just for semantics I think exalted would probably count as mortal unless they became akuma or something similar later.
Demonreach has an abyssal, it did not say 'the Darkness' it said 'the Dark One', that means exalt trapped in crystal.
There are things one can do as Exalted to count as less mortal is all I'll say.
... Just checking. Secret Keeper isn't Merlin himself in suspended animation, right?
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Yeah that works I thought you did away with the rule entirely. But if the rules still there well you only had to be mortal once to have an exaltation you can do plenty to become not that after.
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The guy in demonreach who clearly doesn't want to leave is word of butcher not Merlin or King Arthur. Lotta people don't know that though. Also butchers basically all but said even if Merlin was dead well time travels a thing.
We know Arthur is in Avalon. I could Merlin being here as a final safeguard in case of the prison failing. I can also see him as a sidereal. It would certainly explain a lot.
If they're actual exalts and not exaltations then they shouldn't be let out if we can help it at all.
I don't think what we've seen of the setting would make sense if any celestial exalts had been running around since at minimum the early days of this age of the world. The powers of the world have largely forgotten what they're dealing with, which wouldn't be the case if two or three of them were running around when gods living today were active. Anyone active for Kemmler to stick in here would have been recent enough for people to know what the hell is happening with Molly to a greater degree than most powers have shown.
So if those are living exalts they're older than us, stronger than us, and potentially more knowledgeable than us.
They're also the type of people to earn a trip to supersized supermax prison. DF canon exclusively populated this place with things so evil that their radiant emotional energy generated a leyline worth of dark magic. There are things stronger than Drakul in this place; think about the implications of the fact that the patron of the black court wasn't vile enough to be worth the trouble of sticking here but they were.
Harry also can't become an exalt, because you can't be one on top of being a mage and you have to take your second breath before awakening. I read Molly as a special case because she wasn't properly a wizard when she exalted.
I don't think what we've seen of the setting would make sense if any celestial exalts had been running around since at minimum the early days of this age of the world. The powers of the world have largely forgotten what they're dealing with, which wouldn't be the case if two or three of them were running around when gods living today were active. Anyone active for Kemmler to stick in here would have been recent enough for people to know what the hell is happening with Molly to a greater degree than most powers have shown.
So if those are living exalts they're older than us, stronger than us, and potentially more knowledgeable than us.
They're also the type of people to earn a trip to supersized supermax prison. DF canon exclusively populated this place with things so evil that their radiant emotional energy generated a leyline worth of dark magic. There are things stronger than Drakul in this place; think about the implications of the fact that the patron of the black court wasn't vile enough to be worth the trouble of sticking here but they were.
Not how it works, this is a frozen in carbonite sort of prison. There's a scene in canon of Harry looking at monsters locked in stasis. The ones that are even capable of any level of awareness are dreaming at best.
If they're here instead of dead that means it was easier to imprison than kill them. Offing high essence exalts and harvesting their exaltations to place in our chosen people is basically exactly the sort of thing everyone routinely failed to do for all of history up to this point.
Not how it works anymore. The sidereal shards from ExWoD don't have destined hosts because everything is broken. Instead they burn out the destines of people fated to be great to take them as hosts.
Harry also can't become an exalt, because you can't be one on top of being a mage and you have to take your second breath before awakening. I read Molly as a special case because she wasn't properly a wizard when she exalted.
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I mean I'm saying canonically the guy seen in demonreach who clearly isn't just a monster or whatever and said to leave him alone wog is not Merlin or Arthur.
Demonreach cannot describe prisoners beyond what it says already, if you want to know more you either have to find some kind of note from a former Warden (there do not seem to be any)... or got talk to them in person as the Warden.
Harry has a great destiny, and it was stated that he was a viable host for Solar shard in vegas. I'll have to dig up quotes.
Merlin is a time traveller and time travel is possible in this age. It's possible the prisoners are from an earlier or even later age of the world.
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Sorry, I don't buy it.
There must be a reason even the Realm at their height and the Siddies always imprisoned Exaltations, not Exalted.
If you leave a proper Exalt in a prison indefinitly, he dill find a way to break out, that's jus the nature of things, in my understanding at least.
I could suspend the disbelief for some Terrestrials, but Solaroids? No chance.
Edit: Even if they are just dreaming, they will dream up a Charm to break out in a few decades or centuries.
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