Yes, also they can attack using their rage pool, it's not much, but it's an attack.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Yes, also they can attack using their rage pool, it's not much, but it's an attack.
...Human Guise seems like it's all but required for one of the forms.
We're going to want at least the one point merit so Lydia isn't doing all her own shopping and so forth, so one of them can drive a car if necessary, and just to do human things. Super advantageous.
We're going to want at least the one point merit so Lydia isn't doing all her own shopping and so forth, so one of them can drive a car if necessary, and just to do human things. Super advantageous.
fictionfan
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This ability is most important for us to follow after them. In spirit form the dogs should be able to just phase right though the earth.
Getting mortal help is not that hard. We have multiple pools to hire from.
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[] Adorable puppy eyes
-[]Aww! (1-4 pts.) X4
-[] Extra Heads (2 pts. per head) X2
-[] Dominance (1 pt.)
Not a serious build, but an amusing one with the sole goal of maximizing the amount of pleading to go play fetch: maximally cute cerberi, with a huge pack of normal dogs as groupies
-[]Aww! (1-4 pts.) X4
-[] Extra Heads (2 pts. per head) X2
-[] Dominance (1 pt.)
Not a serious build, but an amusing one with the sole goal of maximizing the amount of pleading to go play fetch: maximally cute cerberi, with a huge pack of normal dogs as groupies
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I prefer getting Lydia a spirit court of her own instead. Let the dogs be dogs.
If we are going to be restoring Arawn's realm, I expect the opportunities to regain some of the retainers would also present themselves.
fictionfan
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What does blending in do in spirit form? They can't be perceived by any natural sense anyway and scout should be in spirit form most of the time. @DragonParadox : Unless Blending helps hide from supernatural senses well in spirit form?
It does not do anything in that form, it is just a one point advantage.
fictionfan
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@Yog may I suggest not bothering to get Stealth, Tunneling or Blending for scout? It just makes sense for the scout to be in spirit form most of the time which makes all of them redundant. Might as well replace blending with [] Dominance (1 pt.) to help with spirit interactions. Also replace tunneling with mana gift to act as a mana battery if needed.
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Tunneling is actually useful. It allows scouts to get into normally inaccessible places and to also lead other there. I'll think about removing blending and maybe stealth (I think it's useful even in spirit form). If not blending I might take Aww! For social stealth. Still, I intended blending to allow them to act as spies even in physical form.
fictionfan
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In spirit form they can just phase though earth so tunneling is not useful.
They would have no means of navigation if they were phased into the ground. Also that doesn't help them breach any place that has Spirit wards that just keep out immaterial spirits. They don't have the advantages necessary to just be underground and see things they would need some kind of special sight advantage to see through solid ground. There's also the fact that tunnels are just useful in general.
fictionfan
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Spirit sense and earthbound. Also survival skill gives a sense of direction and dead reckoning (or I think that is what the checks would fall under when underground)
As for wards they are likely to be an equal problem in physical form.
Fair enough for earthbound. So I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have the same problems in physical form so because warding against immaterial things means things that don't have a physical forms like ghosts or specifically spirits that's different from warding against a specific type of being. If wards can affect them even while solid then it's a general Ward against their type of being rather than just a state of being.
fictionfan
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I figured that you were talking about thresholds like you find at any mortal home. Thresholds that corporal vampires can't cross.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
Doesn't Lydia already have a host of servants maintaining her mansion anyway? We don't see them onscreen but she already has mortal servants.
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Oh no I was talking about purposely cast Wards, thresholds are weird metaphysical bullshit that I have no clue about how they're going to manifest.
This still leaves the issue of being able to dig tunnels, which is useful.
Alternatively? Sanctum invocation, like Dresden did for Demonreach in Turn Coat.
Its apparently something thats well-known in the Dresdenverse; Harry just happened to do it on an island with an awake and active genius loci.
QUESTION
1)I see Deathless Beast Fetters.
Do they count as Exalted Familiars to Lydia? If so, what rank? And can she spend XP to upgrade the Exalted Familiar Background for them?
2) What are the rules for these spirits here?
In WoD, spirits can get discorporated but usually recover/reform from most damage IIRC; requires agg or some sort of specialized spiritkiller to permakill them. In the Dresdenverse, at least some of them can be permakilled.
Both these questions relate to how vulnerable they are and how they should be specced.
Because high-rank Exalted Familiars can be outright resurrected from death at the end of a story arc if you take the right charms.
- They do not, they just have a charm analogous to that where they can choose to count as living dogs or spirits each day at sunset
- Rules are like WoD, it is pretty hard to kill a spirit, though they certainly do not enjoy being dispersed and these are minor spirits so it takes them a while to pull themselves back together
Fair enough. Two Nitpicks
QUESTION/COMMENT
1)Where is their Death/Danger Sense?
The legend is that they bargained with Saint David and provided warning of impending death to mortals. They kinda have to have a sense for that, but its not represented on their character sheet.
2)They have no Occult.
They were the sapient packs of a god of death in a supernatural setting, his hunters and his guards, and most recently the guards of a supernatural prison. They had the wits and knowledge to seek out a Christian saint to negotiate magical support.
They should have at least Occult 2. Maybe Occult 3.
Death Sense: With a successful Perception+Awareness roll you may sense spirits across the veil as well as the presence of impending death
Fair enough on the occult. I'll give them occult 3
Ah, thanks for the clarification. Missed it.
One more question:
QUESTION
Can Tiffany enhance these guys attributes? I've been assuming no because she doesnt have Lore of Beasts, but then I remembered these are as much sapient shapeshifting spirits as they are dogs.
So the rules might favor them.
She can yes, though she is limited by her Faith and Willpower regeneration, she can only enhance so many so fast
Votes as they stand
Also guys, what do you want to see after this? I was thinking of going on to the Last Station so we can finally get a look at the Nevernever side of the place and also get Porter that train body.
Also guys, what do you want to see after this? I was thinking of going on to the Last Station so we can finally get a look at the Nevernever side of the place and also get Porter that train body.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
What about the Cauldron? Where is it, is it in Winter's possession?