Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

[uju32]

Thank you. I see that you used powers/gifts to achieve what you want. Could you tell me a) how much do they cost (1 point per power, or does it scale like merits do?) and b) how do they work (do they need to be activated? Do they cost anything to use?). I apologize for pestering you, but I don't have time to read through all the books. If you at least tell me which books have the rules for them, I'll be able to find them and post them for others.

Click to shrink...

You're welcome.
This is to the best of my understanding

1) Fomor Powers: 1 point per Power. Gifts: 1 point per Power

Base Fomor only get access to Level 1 and Level 2 Gifts from the Black Spiral Dancers Tribe, and the Homid and Ahroun Auspices; you need to buy additional powers to unlock a broader selection.
Not sure if the QM changed this; I need to confirm.

For the purposes of this game, anyway, we can ignore any other prereqs.


2) Powers generally dont cost anything to activate; at most you have to pass a roll.
Which you can fail, mind, hence my plan has those Unholy Blessing things to reduce the DCs.

Gifts? Some need to be activated, some dont. Some have base powers and activateable powers.
Some activations are free, some cost Rage, some cost Gnosis, some cost Willpower.
Some cost two of those things at a time, but not many


3) If you are taking Gifts that cost Rage or Gnosis to use, its more or less mandatory you take the fomor powers that give you a Rage pool(Fomor Power: Berzerker) or Gnosis pool(Fomor Power: Spirit Ties), because you dont get one by default.

You might have to take them several times to have a reasonable pool.
Spirit Ties only gives 1 pt of Gnosis per purchase, with a cap of 5 pts I think, while Bezerker gives 5 points of Rage per purchase, with a cap of 10pts.

The supplement W20 Book of The Wyrm Companion has fomor Powers that allow you to either
1) Use Willpower as your casting pool OR
2) Create a blood pool like a vampire(which you replenish by drinking blood) and use that as your casting resource instead of Rage/Gnosis/Willpower

======
Online sources:
wyrmfoe.com has a more or less comprehensive list of the Garou Gifts, organized by rank, with the books they are from included in the Gift description.
Pretty authoritative.

cityofhopemush.net is also a good source, and it has a list of Changing Breeds Gifts for chargen(also has Demon The Fallen, Sorcerer and other resources)
There's house rules, so caveat emptor.

Books:
W20 has the base rules and fomor powers starting around page 428-439
W20 Book of the Wyrm has some additional fomor powers, and a bunch of fomor breeds
W20 Book of the Wyrm Companion is like Sorcerer Paths of Power, an unofficial supplement the QM approved

 

[Yog]

You're welcome.
This is to the best of my understanding

1) Fomor Powers: 1 point per Power. Gifts: 1 point per Power

Base Fomor only get access to Level 1 and Level 2 Gifts from the Black Spiral Dancers Tribe, and the Homid and Ahroun Auspices; you need to buy additional powers to unlock a broader selection.
Not sure if the QM changed this; I need to confirm.

For the purposes of this game, anyway, we can ignore any other prereqs.


2) Powers generally dont cost anything to activate; at most you have to pass a roll.
Which you can fail, mind, hence my plan has those Unholy Blessing things to reduce the DCs.

Gifts? Some need to be activated, some dont. Some have base powers and activateable powers.
Some activations are free, some cost Rage, some cost Gnosis, some cost Willpower.
Some cost two of those things at a time, but not many


3) If you are taking Gifts that cost Rage or Gnosis to use, its more or less mandatory you take the fomor powers that give you a Rage pool(Fomor Power: Berzerker) or Gnosis pool(Fomor Power: Spirit Ties), because you dont get one by default.

You might have to take them several times to have a reasonable pool.
Spirit Ties only gives 1 pt of Gnosis per purchase, with a cap of 5 pts I think, while Bezerker gives 5 points of Rage per purchase, with a cap of 10pts.

The supplement W20 Book of The Wyrm Companion has fomor Powers that allow you to either
1) Use Willpower as your casting pool OR
2) Create a blood pool like a vampire(which you replenish by drinking blood) and use that as your casting resource instead of Rage/Gnosis/Willpower

======
Online sources:
wyrmfoe.com has a more or less comprehensive list of the Garou Gifts, organized by rank, with the books they are from included in the Gift description.
Pretty authoritative.

cityofhopemush.net is also a good source, and it has a list of Changing Breeds Gifts for chargen(also has Demon The Fallen, Sorcerer and other resources)
There's house rules, so caveat emptor.

Books:
W20 has the base rules and fomor powers starting around page 428-439
W20 Book of the Wyrm has some additional fomor powers, and a bunch of fomor breeds
W20 Book of the Wyrm Companion is like Sorcerer Paths of Power, an unofficial supplement the QM approved

Click to shrink...

Thank you. Final question - where did you get Ability Aptitude: X from, and why is is 1 point? Computer Aptitude and Mechanical Aptitude are the only ones I was able to find in the books, and they are 2 point merits.

Anyway, I am thinking of switching Clear Sighted for [Power]Armored Skin, [Power]Mega-Attribute: Perception, and Acute Senses (3 pts version). This should give me nice bonuses to, well, perception, and ability to soak lethal.

 

[uju32]

Thank you. Final question - where did you get Ability Aptitude: X from, and why is is 1 point? Computer Aptitude and Mechanical Aptitude are the only ones I was able to find in the books, and they are 2 point merits.

Anyway, I am thinking of switching Clear Sighted for [Power]Armored Skin, [Power]Mega-Attribute: Perception, and Acute Senses (3 pts version). This should give me nice bonuses to, well, perception, and ability to soak lethal.

Click to shrink...

Ability Aptitude is Mage The Ascension(Revised) p291.

Ability Aptitude (1-pt. Merit)
For every human ability, there are those who have a natural
flair for it. Within your character's specific Aptitude, reduce all
difficulties by two. A natural linguist picks up languages easily,
speaking without any trace of accent, and a crack driver can
perform phenomenal car tricks with ease. This Aptitude functions
for one Ability, but it can be taken multiple times for a character
who's a natural with, say, computers and technology.

Special or combat Abilities, such as Do, should never have
an Ability Aptitude associated with them.

Click to shrink...

That appears to work.
Make sure you can soak Agg damage, given the prevalence of fireballs, high-level Disciplines and Outsider bullshit.

EDIT
No, you dont appear to have the pts to buy the ability to soak Agg.
Lethal will have to do.

 

[Yog]

Ability Aptitude is Mage The Ascension(Revised) p291.


That appears to work.
Make sure you can soak Agg damage, given the prevalence of fireballs, high-level Disciplines and Outsider bullshit.

EDIT
No, you dont appear to have the pts to buy the ability to soak Agg.
Lethal will have to do.

Click to shrink...

Done. This should focus the character more.

 

[Tsotate]

[X]Plan Newborn Scholar

 

[uju32]

Oh yeah, while Im still awake:
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
With regards to this conversation:

From my understanding and this could be wrong but I asked Dragon paradox and it seems like they need a trait like Gifted Fomor whether that be greater gifts or otherwise because we already have the ability to pick level 5 gifts innately and we don't discriminate by auspice or tribe.

So it seems like they need a trait that lets them make the conversion from willpower but they don't need multiple versions of that because we can already just buy level 5 and apparently level 6 gifts.

Click to shrink...

This will have to wait for the QM for clarification
Because if its true, then it means that I have two extra points to spend.
If it isnt, you're gonna have to re-do significant parts of each of your builds.

Click to shrink...

Are the fomor Powers Twisted Gifts and Greater Gifts of Malfeas relevant to unlocking higher tier Gifts like Book of the Worm Companion says? Or are you allowing us to ignore that requirement?

 

[Ivar]

[X]Pursuer of Diligent Scholarship V.2

[X] Maker of Immaculate Relics Untarnished

[X] Burden Everlasting of the Dutiful Sovereign

 

[DragonParadox]

Oh yeah, while Im still awake:
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
With regards to this conversation:


Are the fomor Powers Twisted Gifts and Greater Gifts of Malfeas relevant to unlocking higher tier Gifts like Book of the Worm Companion says? Or are you allowing us to ignore that requirement?

Click to shrink...

They are yes, you guys have a very generous budget of points and I feel that gating greater powers more makes some sense.

 

[DragonParadox]

Learning to Breathe ​

3th of February 2007 A.D.

The breathing cage set one bird free

To say Lara Raith was tired would be to understate the matter unforgivably. She had not eaten any actual food for the last five days, only lust and life, which she had heard one of her younger cousins who would know compare to snorting coke with a side of Red Bull and jacking some amphetamines in for desert. But needs must when the devil drives. Or as the case might be when the devil does not drive. The White Court had been quietly attempting to expand into East Asia since the mid Nineteenth Century, with each attempt a more fantastical failure, unable to even see past the silk screens of Elders already entrenched. Then things had, as they were wont to do over the last few years, Changed. Someone worryingly familiar had decided to unleash a pox of hope upon one of the most potent of the Yama Kings, enemies par excellence of their Jade 'Cousins'. An inexpert schemer would withdraw pieces to keep them out of the fray as the Wu of Tokyo and Kyoto made war upon the newly weakened Akuma, a middling schemer would take the chance to steal some of the thralls assets while the stealing was good. She offered alliance... more than that she offered herself.

It nestled in the bars and shat in the straw

To live without restraint or apology for one full turn of the moon in the hidden places of Tokyo, accepting all of the dangers, that her enemies might find her. That something of her carefully set facade back in Chicago might crack, that Father might break free. Lara shivered at the thought and not from the cold. Only then would the all too vivacious corpse who called herself Nōhime consent to an alliance under the auspices of the Thrashing Dragon.

She who had walked the halls of Versailles at its height and danced with the Sun King, she whose image flowed on a thousand thousand electronic waves, inciting lust with every echoed breath had little trouble understanding what it was to live fullest and when she laughed each head in hearing turned. At first it had been a struggle to feed only upon the dying to thus return them to the world, there was something distastefully vulture-like about it, the taste of decay on her lips with every kiss. But when she had taken the old man's life, the one who had fought in the Last War and was never able to let go of the horrors he had seen, never able to forgive himself for the devastation his bombs had wrought Lara Raith began to understand. It wasn't about killing, about ending, it was about release.

The bird's wings were mountains

Be the waves ever so violent and unpredictable the tides still go in and out, from the first day to the last. Perhaps the dead woman had a point. Hell was already wounded, bleeding bright and they would feast well, but first she had to teach her nose the the smell of blood, outside the ordered rules of society, yet not outside herself.

And forests covered them.

Who was Lara beyond Raith?

OOC: The rebellion you guys stopped has among other things reminded Lara that the White Court is quite politically isolated now that they have entirely broken with the Reds. So she is looking for new allies, even if it means taking some risks.

 

[ImBuda]

The Jade court or hell??

 

[DragonParadox]

The Jade court or hell??

Click to shrink...

The Jade Court, she is trying to live by the Dharma of the Thrashing Dragons as she was challenged by... someone she thinks is just an elder.

 

[BronzeTongue]

Who was Lara beyond Raith?

Click to shrink...

… This is going to go interesting places. This sounds a lot like an ancient jade running a mad science experiment on the queen of the white court.

 

[Yzarc]

Votes as they stand. Dud to counting problem, it needed some adjustment.

Adhoc vote count started by Yzarc on Jun 13, 2024 at 7:53 AM, finished with 248 posts and 19 votes.

• ---

  6 people have voted

  [X]Pursuer of Diligent Scholarship V.2
  -[X] True Faith - 10 points
  -[X] Charmed Existence - (5 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Soak Aggravated - (5 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Dragons Never Die (1 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Jack-of-All-Trades (3 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Acute Senses (1 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Lightning Calculator (1 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Persuasion (Level One)
  -[X] Eidetic Memory (2 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Bale Armor (Level One)
  -[X] Mental Speech (Level Three)
  -[X] Wyrm Hide (Level Two)
  -[X] Numbing 1 pt
  -[X] Truth of Gaia (Level One)
  -[X] Shadows at Dawn (Level Two)
  -[X] Gifted Fomor 1 pt

  • Degorium
  • Azais
  • Yzarc
  • Mithrill
  • powergoat
  • Ivar

  6 people have voted

  [X] Maker of Immaculate Relics Untarnished
  -[X] True Faith - 10 points
  -[X] Charmed Existence - (5 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Soak Aggravated - (5 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Dragons Never Die (1 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Mechanical Aptitude (1 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Gifted (3 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Apecraft's Blessings (Level One)
  -[X] Master of Fire (Level One)
  -[X] Diagnostics (Level One)
  -[X] Sheng-Nong's Eyes (Level One)
  -[X] Hyperfocus (3 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Gifted Fomor 1 pt
  -[X] Shapechanger (3 pt Merit)
  --[X] Armored Hide 1 pt
  --[X] Phoenix Form 1 pt
  --[X] Exoskeleton 1 pt
  --[X] Numbing 1 pt

  • Degorium
  • Azais
  • Yzarc
  • Mithrill
  • fictionfan
  • Ivar

  6 people have voted

  [X] Burden Everlasting of the Dutiful Sovereign
  -[X] Charmed Existence - (5 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Dragons Never Die (1 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Jack-of-All-Trades (3 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Inner Strength (2 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Enchanting Feature (2 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Judge's Wisdom (4 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Natural Linguist (2 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Regal Bearing (1 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Poker Face (2 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Confidence (2 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Natural Leader(2 pt. Merit)
  -[X] Persuasion (Level One)
  -[X] Staredown (Level Two)
  -[X] Infectious Laughter (Level One)
  -[X] Truth of Gaia (Level One)
  -[X] Mental Speech (Level Three)
  -[X] Falling Touch (Level One)
  -[X] Inspiration (Level One)
  -[X] True Fear (Level Two)
  -[X] Resist Toxin (Level One)
  -[X] Gifted Fomor 1 pt

  • Degorium
  • Azais
  • Yzarc
  • Mithrill
  • fictionfan
  • Ivar

  5 people have voted

  [X]Plan Newborn Scholar
  -[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
  -[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Perception
  -[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Wits
  -[X][Power]Armored Skin
  -[X][Power]Numbing
  -[X][Power]Corpse Hide
  -[X][Power]Disguise
  -[X][Power]Sense The Unnatural
  -[X][Power]Bestial Mutation
  -[X][Power]Enhanced Bestial Mutation
  --[X][Standby Power]Sirens Veil
  --[X][Bestial Power]Wicked Weapons of Malfeas: Instincts For Violence
  -[X][Power] Enhanced Super-Beast Mode: Intelligence
  -[X][Power] Wicked Weapons of Malfeas: Hideous Breath
  -[X][Power] Extra Speed
  -[X][Power] Twisted Gifts
  -[X][Power] Greater Gifts of Malfeas
  -[X][Gift] Cybersenses(Glass Walker 1)
  -[X][Gift] Apecraft's Blessings(Homid 1)
  -[X][Gift] Plug and Play(Glass Walker 1)
  -[X][Gift] Touch of the Muse(Black Fury 2)
  -[X][Gift] Grandmother's Touch(Children of Gaia 2)
  -[X][Gift] Coils of the Serpent(Uktena 2/Bunyip 2/W20)
  -[X][Gift] Strength of Purpose(Philodox 2/Croatan 2/ Get of Fenris 2)
  -[X][Gift] Pain Chain(Children of Gaia 3)
  -[X][Gift] Universal Interface(Glass Walker 3)
  -[X][Gift] Barring The Will(Black Furies 3)
  -[X][Gift] Pulse of the Invisible(Theurge 3/Bunyip 3)
  -[X][Gift] Mental Speech (Metis 3/Philodox 3)
  -[X][Gift] Adaptation(Silent Strider 3)
  -[X][Gift] Speech of All Things(Children of Gaia 3)
  -[X][Gift] Trust of Gaia (Children of Gaia 5)
  -[X][Gift] Assimilation (Homid 5/W20)
  -[X][Gift] Harmonious Unity of the Emerald Mother (Stargazer 5/W20)
  -[X][Gift] Break The Bonds(Galliard 6/Philodox 6/W20)
  -[X][Gift] Home In All Lands (Red Talons 6)
  -[X][Merit][Special Advantage] Soak Aggravated Damage: 2 (after discount)
  -[X][Merit] Ability Aptitude: Occult: 1
  -[X][Merit] Eidetic Memory: 2

  • uju32
  • Goldfish
  • BoredMan
  • 恐Drake
  • Tsotate

  4 people have voted

  [X] Slayer Of Foes In Elegance
  -[X] True Faith 10 pt
  -[X][Power]Unholy Blessing
  -[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Perception
  -[X][Power]Mega-Attribute: Wits
  -[X][Power]Armored Skin
  -[X][Power]Numbing
  -[X][Power]Corpse Hide
  -[X][Power]Disguise
  -[X][Power]Sense The Unnatural
  -[X][Power]Bestial Mutation
  -[X][Power]Enhanced Bestial Mutation
  --[X][Standby Power]Sirens Veil
  --[X][Bestial Power]Wicked Weapons of Malfeas: Instincts For Violence
  -[X][Power] Enhanced Super-Beast Mode: Intelligence
  -[X][Power] Wicked Weapons of Malfeas: Hideous Breath
  -[X][Power] Extra Speed
  -[X][Power] Twisted Gifts
  -[X][Power] Greater Gifts of Malfeas
  -[X][Gift] Grandmother's Touch(Children of Gaia 2)
  -[X][Gift] Coils of the Serpent(Uktena 2/Bunyip 2/W20)
  -[X][Gift] Strength of Purpose(Philodox 2/Croatan 2/ Get of Fenris 2)
  -[X][Gift] Pain Chain(Children of Gaia 3)
  -[X][Gift] Universal Interface(Glass Walker 3)
  -[X][Gift] Barring The Will(Black Furies 3)
  -[X][Gift] Pulse of the Invisible(Theurge 3/Bunyip 3)
  -[X][Gift] Mental Speech (Metis 3/Philodox 3)
  -[X][Gift] Eyes of the Cat (Metis 3)
  -[X][Gift] Adaptation(Silent Strider 3)
  -[X][Gift] Speech of All Things(Children of Gaia 3)
  -[X][Gift] Assimilation (Homid 5/W20)
  -[X][Gift] Harmonious Unity of the Emerald Mother (Stargazer 5/W20)
  -[X][Gift] Break The Bonds(Galliard 6/Philodox 6/W20)
  -[X][Merit][Special Advantage] Soak Aggravated Damage: 2 (after discount)
  -[X][Merit] Ability Aptitude: Occult: 1
  -[X][Merit] Eidetic Memory: 2

  • Degorium
  • Azais
  • Yzarc
  • Mithrill

  4 people have voted

  [X] Miraculous Remembrance of Life
  -[X] Past Lives 5, 5 pts
  -[X] Living legend, 5 pts
  -[X] Inner Knight, 5 pts
  -[X] Guardians Angel, 6 Pts
  -[X] Spirit Magnet, 6 Pts
  -[X] Spirit Mentor, 3 Pts
  -[X] Oracular Ability, 3 Pts
  -[X] Eidetic Memory, 2 Pts
  -[X] Acute Senses, 3 Pts
  -[X] [Power] Armored Skin, 1 pt
  -[X] [Power] Mega-Attribute: Perception, 1 pt

  • Yog
  • tenchifew
  • Sesparra
  • Anaja

  1 people have voted

  [X] Plan Acolytes Totem Based Build
  -[X] Social Molly
  -[X] Smart Molly
  -[X] Sorcerer Molly
  -[X] Ritualist Molly

  • Acolyte

  1 people have voted

  [X]Mastigos's Ideas
  -[X] Hero
  --[X]Magic Sensitivity 1
  --[X]Code of Honor 2
  --[X]Daredevil 3
  --[X]Iron Will 3
  --[X]Luck 3
  --[X]Oracular Ability 3
  --[X]Self Confidence 5
  --[X]Charmed Existence 5
  --[X]Fountain of Life 5
  --[X]Jack of All Trades 5
  --[X]Innate Magical Ability 5
  --[X]Clear Sighted 6
  --[X]True Faith 7
  --[X]Compulsion (seek adventure) -1
  --[X]Overconfident -1
  --[X]Impatient -1
  --[X]Wyld Mind -2
  --[X]Curiosity -2
  --[X]Lifesaver -3
  --[X]Compulsion (Be bold) -2
  --[X]Compulsion (Never flinch from the righteous path) -3
  -[X] Party Animal
  --[X] Animal Magnetism 1
  --[X] Cupid's Gift 1
  --[X] Entrepreneur 1
  --[X] Natural Leader 1
  --[X]Concentration 1
  --[X] Bardic Gift 2
  --[X] Drug Resistance 2
  --[X] Enchanting Voice 2
  --[X] Refined 2
  --[X] Sexy 2
  --[X] Obscure the Truth (Gift) 2
  --[X] Innocent 2
  --[X] Holy Aura 2
  --[X] Surreal Beauty 3
  --[X] Blase 3
  --[X] Sex Appeal 3
  --[X] Soothing Voice 3
  --[X] Gifted Liar 3
  --[X] Corporate Ties 3
  --[X] Political Ties 3
  --[X] Innate Magical Ability(illusions) 5
  --[X] Cursed(DRAMA! Not always but your presence tends to escalate social events to be bigger and more dramatic, such that even good events require more time and attention) -1
  --[X] Bard's Tongue -1
  --[X] Soft-Hearted -1
  --[X] Image Obsession -2
  --[X] Incorrigible Flirt -2
  --[X] Iron's Curse -2
  --[X] Compulsion (accept any reasonable offer to dance) -2
  --[X] Geasa (Never be the first to resort to violence) -2

  • mastigos

  1 people have voted

  - [X] Natural Leader
  - [X] Dragons Never Die
  - [X] Bardic Gift
  - [X] Enchanting Voice
  - [X] Haven Affinity
  - [X] Refined
  - [X] Lucky
  - [X] Soothing Voice
  - [X] Charmed Existence

  • Aria the Mage

 

[Artemis1992]

… This is going to go interesting places. This sounds a lot like an ancient jade running a mad science experiment on the queen of the white court.

Click to shrink...

It takes a special kind to be a mad social scientist...

Far easier to just build rayguns and doomsday-devices like a proper mad engineer or physicist.

 

[Azais]

I think I know what is happening, the Jade court lives through different Dharmas, which they cling to completely to prevent them from becoming just irrational animals, being totally implacable against those who follow one of the heretics or who do not follow any. When another species that is also a type of vampire wants to form an alliance with them, that person must demonstrate an understanding of that group's Dharma.

Since DP indicated that Lara was wrong about the identity of this Jade vampire, it is possible that she is a Bodhisattva, who wants to both evaluate Lara for an alliance and to see if she can enlighten other species. Anyway, as Lara is demonstrating that she understands things, I think that in the end she will come out with allies, more powerful and perhaps wiser. All very good things for one of our allies.

 

[Alratan]

I wonder if Old Man Spider, founder of the Ten Seasons Sect is trying to cultivate a new garden of the second sort amongst the White Court. He's the type to operate through intermediaries who don't even know they're intermediaries.

He taught his disciples to be gardeners, to cultivate first ecosystems in nature and then societies of humans, and then, at his level, it's suggested that he cultivates supernatural society.

Or it could be anyone up to Thousand Crane Mother herself, Arhat and founder of the Dharma. It'd be interesting to see why she'd try to spread her dharma to a non-Wan Kuei. I can see why Old Man Spider would do it, simply for the experience of doing so, but less obviosu for the other sub-sects.

 

[uju32]

Learning to Breathe

Click to shrink...

COMMENTARY
Thats an alias, not a real name.
Nohime is best known as the wife of Oda Nobunaga, but people who come back from Yomi Wan as kuejin choose their names.
That this one chose to be called this is intresting.

Wasnt the Red Court courting the Thrashing Dragons?
*checks*

"I am old," he counters with a shake of the head. "I know, shocking, I am surprised by it everyday." There is no bitterness to the laugh, only a kind of quiet acceptance. "Twenty years ago you would have found me less 'fine' and, I am sad to say, more willing to jump to conclusions. Now you put me to a hard test Miss Carpenter. Do I send the young, interested in this... information superhighway, in the dance of data spirits and the potential of new weapons against the Yama Kings and their puppets, against the encroaching Red Court working their way into the graces of Thrashing Dragon Elders among the Wan Kuei even as I know they will be tempted to cut corners? Or do I instead send misives to the old and willful, my peers, my seniors. Filled they are with an understanding of themselves, but also suspicious, likely to take a long time to learn and teach both."

Click to shrink...

Yup.
And while the Thrashing Dragons are nowhere as bad as the Devil-Tigers, they are still the Thrashing Dragons.
The ones known to eat people alive iirc.

 

[Yog]

... Are we seeing someone trying to get Lara to reach Golconda?

 

[DragonParadox]

... Are we seeing someone trying to get Lara to reach Golconda?

Click to shrink...

Trying to teach her Dharma so yes and no depending on the time scale you are looking at.

 

[BoredMan]

They are yes, you guys have a very generous budget of points and I feel that gating greater powers more makes some sense.

Click to shrink...

@Degorium you need to fix your builds it seems they aren't legal right now.

 

[BronzeTongue]

It takes a special kind to be a mad social scientist...

Far easier to just build rayguns and doomsday-devices like a proper mad engineer or physicist.

Click to shrink...

A little different for the jades since the social sciences allow them to become the doomsday device themselves though.

I wonder if this is the first iteration of this project or if the Thrashing Dragon has been trying it for a while. I know in WoD the jades view western vamps as weird and inferior because their powers don't change their feeding mechanism as they grow, but that isn't necessarily the case for DF.

Whamps could from a certain perspective look like they start as very narrow breathe drinkers even though they're much weaker than jades. Especially if you're biased to look for that sort of thing already. Blamps also arguably qualify too, but they're a real "in the mirror, darkly" moment on a behavioral level, which would sour things.

Could be this is a one off, but I wouldn't be shocked to hear that this was some favored subject of research among certain jades.

Yup.
And while the Thrashing Dragons are nowhere as bad as the Devil-Tigers, they are still the Thrashing Dragons.
The ones known to eat people alive iirc.

Click to shrink...

I think the whamps will have an easier time of it than the ramps for the reason I mentioned above. The jades are still human enough for subliminal bias and reds are fledgling coded because they drink blood.

 

[ImBuda]

[X] Burden Everlasting of the Dutiful Sovereign
[X] Maker of Immaculate Relics Untarnished
[X]Pursuer of Diligent Scholarship V.2

 

[Degorium]

@Degorium you need to fix your builds it seems they aren't legal right now.

Click to shrink...

Which one they all seem to be in concordance Gifted Fomor allows the usage of level one and two gifts with Willpower instead of Gnosis or Rage? Slayer of Foes in Elegance possesses greater gift of Malfeas like uju32's plan to use greater gifts in the same fashion.

Edit: mental speech found it okay

Edit 2: Pursuer of Diligent Scholarship V.2 edits eidetic memory replaced with Ability aptitude: Academics and Greater Gifts of Malfeas.

Maker of Immaculate Relics Untarnished edits Mechanical aptitude replaced with Ability Aptitude: Craft.

Burden Everlasting of the Dutiful Sovereign edits
Toxin Resist gift replaced with Greater Gifts of Malfeas

 

[Azais]

Good night guys, see you tomorrow as we wrap up the SGI clones and head off into some dogo searching with Mouse

Click to shrink...

You said this yesterday but you launched an interlude today, are you still going to close the vote today or will you give more time? New plans should not appear now.

 

[BoredMan]

Edit: mental speech found it okay

Click to shrink...

And if your using gifts from different tribes or castes you need twisted gifts. In your Pursuer of Diligent Scholarship V.2 plan for example you have Wyrm Hide and Shadows of Dawn which are from different tribes.