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My first thought was White Court (idk which one, after all not ALL white Court are like Raiths, and feed on lust, there is the Malvora and Skevis). Then a mafia daughter.

And lately i remembered that Nicodemus also has a daughter... and with the priest not really talking about said daughter...

I do think that having the girl not know about the family of her date will be hilarious to both sides.
 
it doesn't even need to be romantic love which michael has plenty towards charity just any reciprocated true love harms raiths like should make them burn on contact. So honestly if they were a raith they'd already of been burned by touching our brother carpenter house is a beacon of virtue.

Edit: I'd say michael, charity, molly etc etc also radiate courage though its only in situations where they would need too though.

Edit2: Another note if their a raith or raith adjacent part of the lust side of the family if their young good chance they don't actually know what they are as their explicitly not taught anything until they've well murdered someone in their first eating.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Lydia shaker head head. "I've had pizza, but just the traditional Sicilian kind. My father is a bit... old fashioned about food, about most things really." She sounds a little defensive about it, not that Izzy notices.
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This may, or may not be a revealing detail, as Sicilian pizza is readily distinguishable from the 'standard' Italian, I.E Neapolitan pizza. It has a much softer, more risen dough that's more like focaccia and much more sauce. It's also usually rectangular.

No one who isn't Sicilian is going to consider it the traditional form of pizza. Many wouldn't consider it a form of pizza at all, but something related.

Edit; note that in Italian it's not called pizza, it's called sfincione, and recognised as something else. It's like lahmacun is often called Turkish pizza in English speaking countries, despite not being pizza.
 
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could actually just ask what supernatural elements are part of her life? Then we'd get the list and if its nothing we don't waste a question.
 
if shes mundane we don't waste the question if shes not mundane we now know all the supernatural elements of her life. I guess we could also waste the question and the supernatural elements are shit that lives near her I mean just about everyone probably lives by some supernatural element.
 
Alratan said:
And the answer 'she's dating a boy who's a Knight of the Cross' son and Infernal Exalt's brother' would come up anyway, I think.

I wonder if we could just ask what secrets she's keeping from Daniel
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secrets is a bit much and wayyyy out of bounds for us now if shes supernatural to some extent that we should know all her personal secrets is kinda fucked.
 
DragonParadox said:
A small note on guns, if you could build a smart gun, that is one in which firing was tied into something at least as powerful processor wise as as a smartphone you could stick a demon in there to help you fire. It still would not compensate totally for having no skill, but it would make a gun actually useful. If you do that in addition to buying dots in firearms it will make you good with it.
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So basically a Shadowrun smartgun.
We could probably make one. Scratch that, we could definitely make one; repurpose a cellphone's chipset and a targeting laser, put a demon inside and you're golden.

The whole legality thing is kind of an issue for 17 year old Molly, especially as the ExWoD Infernal charmset does not currently have any charms for sticking weapons or other supplies in Elsewhere. So if you drew in front of Jones or Murphy or Greene, you'd be up for felony weapon possession unless you used other charms to squash the case.

Unless you change the laws for gun ownership in this AU, of course.
If Molly can legally tool up at 18 without aggroing law enforcement or making her family criminal accessories, then when she turns 18 in a couple months she can make one.
Valkhir said:
Could just be some Winter Fae changeling, due to not minding the cold.
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Okay. Winter Court changeling IS also an option.
Would fit the aesthetic as well, along with the mother being out of the picture if she was Sidhe who dumped the daughter on the dad and skedaddled.

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My current working hypothesis is that she's the changeling daughter of a Mafia member
And her dad was either the kid of a White Court vampire, or is currently working for one
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If we ask anything, I think something like 'what secrets is she keeping from Daniel?' would work best.
 
firefrog600 said:
secrets is a bit much and wayyyy out of bounds for us now if shes supernatural to some extent that we should know all her personal secrets is kinda fucked.
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If her dad is a non-magical mafia boss/hitman I'd like to know that as well, despite the intrusion on her privacy it's a reasonable precaution for someone in Molly's position to take, just as people who date the children of world leaders are background checked.
 
uju32 said:
So basically a Shadowrun smartgun.
We could probably make one. Scratch that, we could definitely make one; repurpose a cellphone's chipset and a targeting laser, put a demon inside and you're golden.

The whole legality thing is kind of an issue for 17 year old Molly, especially as the ExWoD Infernal charmset does not currently have any charms for sticking weapons or other supplies in Elsewhere. So if you drew in front of Jones or Murphy or Greene, you'd be up for felony weapon possession unless you used other charms to squash the case.

Unless you change the laws for gun ownership in this AU, of course.
If Molly can legally tool up at 18 without aggroing law enforcement or making her family criminal accessories, then when she turns 18 in a couple months she can make one.
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Gun laws are as in our world, though you do have some stealth charms in Kakuri and you could buy the Ancient Sorcery spell that makes perfect disguises
 
firefrog600 said:
why we could ask what her supernatural elements are and her intentions frankly aren't much of our business? if shes not planning to murder him or anything which supernatural elements would help inform us.
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It's the root concern isn't it? Does she want to hurt him or use him to get in contact with a family member and then hurt them? Cut to the chase.

If someone associated with her attacks us we know for certain she was ignorant of the people around her's goals/she was used as a pawn.
 
Alratan said:
If her dad is a non-magical mafia boss/hitman I'd like to know that as well, despite the intrusion on her privacy it's a reasonable precaution for someone in Molly's position to take, just as people who date the children of world leaders are background checked.
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frankly I wouldn't even judge if shes a mafia child. Also comes off as judgy probably shouldn't judge too much for who their related too.
 
OctarineShrike said:
It's the root concern isn't it? Does she want to hurt him or use him to get in contact with a family member and then hurt them? Cut to the chase.

If someone associated with her attacks us we know for certain she was ignorant of the people around her's goals/she was used as a pawn.
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I mean if their mostly mundane things then I'm less worried about wasting a magical crown question if they are I'd like to know. We can work around the mundane stuff with our absurd skills.
 
firefrog600 said:
frankly I wouldn't even judge if shes a mafia child. Also comes off as judgy probably shouldn't judge too much for who their related too.
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Who's saying we'd morally judge her. It is, however, a relevant fact that might cause complications for our family that we would want to know about so we could be prepared.
 
DragonParadox said:
Sure, you could use the crown of eyes with her as the focus. She is right in front of you.
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Too intrusive.

At least at the moment, we have no IC reason to consider supernatural threat to Daniel. Or active malice.
And for Molly, there's the slight issue of Ick about prying into her brother's love life; she has experience with how detailed the Crown of Eyes can get.
 
Alratan said:
Who's saying we'd morally judge her. It is, however, a relevant fact that might cause complications for our family that we would want to know about so we could be prepared.
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yes and it also wastes a question the supernatural one actually informs us what we're looking at and if there are no supernatural elements we don't waste a question. Stuff like her intentions also way too vague as we could get literally her current intentions to get some grub and hang out and not actually learn almost anything personal about them for instance.
 
uju32 said:
Too intrusive.

At least at the moment, we have no IC reason to consider supernatural threat to Daniel. Or active malice.
And for Molly, there's the slight issue of Ick about prying into her brother's love life; she has experience with how detailed the Crown of Eyes can get.
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there very much is reason seeing as we had the thought in character this chapter and if the answer is nothing then we basically barely intruded on their privacy. other questions very much are more personal and could just be that she wants to fuck our brother or something similar.
 
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firefrog600 said:
yes and it also wastes a question the supernatural one actually informs us what we're looking at and if there are no supernatural elements we don't waste a question. Stuff like her intentions also way too vague as we could get literally her current intentions to get some grub and hang out and not actually learn almost anything personal about them for instance.
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It doesn't waste a question. If she doesn't have any secrets then we learn we don't need to ask anymore questions about her in future. It would reveal if she was a supernatural creature or had supernatural connections.", although we might need to phrase it as:

'What secrets about Lydia being hidden from us?'

As that should cover things she doesn't know.

If there are no secrets being kept, then nothing will trigger. If she's a secret Changeling or white court vampire, even if she doesn't know it yet, this will tell us.
 
Alratan said:
It doesn't waste a question. If she doesn't have any secrets then we learn we don't need to ask anymore questions about her in future. It would reveal if she was a supernatural creature or had supernatural connections.", although we might need to phrase it as:

'What secrets about Lydia being hidden from us?'

As that should cover things she doesn't know.

If there are no secrets being kept, then nothing will trigger. If she's a secret Changeling or white court vampire, even if she doesn't know it yet, this will tell us.
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having zero secrets is quite literally impossible it could just tell us embarrassing things shes done in her life. also wouldn't reveal secrets she doesn't know about herself many scions aren't in the know and neither are lust white court vampires. also is it a secret if they don't know it? This is a question I don't actually know.
 
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firefrog600 said:
having zero secrets is quite literally impossible it could just tell us embarrassing things shes done in her life. also wouldn't reveal secrets she doesn't know about herself many scions aren't in the know and neither are lust white court vampires. also is it a secret if they don't know it? This is a question I don't actually know.
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It should, as I said secrets about her being kept, not secrets she's keeping. She doesn't need to know them.
 
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