Have the Cyberdevils call one in? Sure that will evacuate the place, though it would play into the narrative of greater and greater chaos.
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Have the Cyberdevils call one in? Sure that will evacuate the place, though it would play into the narrative of greater and greater chaos.
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Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
It's a school. Just pull the fire-alarm.
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- Germany
University is usually several buildings and whatever Sandra set up there might be bigger than one building.
BoredMan
Maintaining the Agenda is our top priority
True though you'd at least get the one with the hole evaced.
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If whatever is in that hole comes out in a populated campus, it also would play into the narrative. So if we can't go solve it, it would at least mitigate the damage, I imagine.
Its Saturday.
There's almost noone on campus on the weekends in the academic part of school in my experience.
And Sandra would have know that, and not bothered to work on a bomb there since it would hurt noone.
Whatever is down there is a prep site, not a bomb.
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[X] Tell Harrowmont to get away from there now
-[X] Have Clippy arrange for an anonymous bomb threat to be made on campus to encourage a rapid evacuation.
-[X] Have Clippy arrange for an anonymous bomb threat to be made on campus to encourage a rapid evacuation.
Either way, it's best for random civilians to not be in the area.
Show up and check. THEN decide if its worth calling in. We might want to call the Library directly rather than 911 dispatch.
And its not like Harrowmont is immune to the effects of the greater chaos spell; I can think of several ways that an attempted evacuation warning can snowball into a disaster.
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There isn't a lot of counterspelling on more than personal defence level in WoD.
Mages can do it with their freeform skills, but aside from that everyone is pretty limited.
Ancient Sorcery has no counterspell.
Blood Magic only has counterspelling for effects aimed directly at you, or very close.
COMMENTARY
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Sandra spent over a year in Chicago, and engineered a plot that, even while it failed in the primary goal of destroying both Dresden and Molly , still managed the secondary goal of isolating Winter's forces in Arctis Tor for a period of time, allowing Outsiders to work unimpeded for anything from a couple hours to several days, depending on the time dilation factor.
She has been here for at least six months.
It seemed unlikely to me that an agent on their A-team will have spent all that time collecting bottle caps
I doubt we've seen everything in her bag of tricks yet.
Its a pity that we dont have Counterspelling yet; it would have been hilarious if Molly had simply activated an Occult Excellency and Unwoven this chaos spell when it was cast. 1 dot of Fortune Path is top on my list of next Sorcery Paths to learn by the way. After Alchemy, before Summoning/Warding.
Xanadu and the Pallbearer Temple are both magical places of power according to Arlene
Both places came under massive attack; Xanadu by multiple waves of attacks, while the Temple almost got Oklahoma City'd.
Thats a significant expenditure of resources for Sandra on this day. I doubt this was coincidence.
The dog that didnt bark.
We know the boiler room is reputedly haunted; Katie House told us about this place when we talked to her. And was reputedly where some of Sandra's people were brewing shit.
I cant think of why another spirit would be scared to go there.
We need to check this place out.
Unfortunately Molly's passive magical senses are shit, but she still does have the ability to ask a Crown question when she sees the hole.
I'll note that Sandra is not drawing attention to this place either.
The time right now is going to be before or around 1330 Pacific Standard Time, extrapolating from the news report and the time we spent in Sanctuary. Sunrise was 0651. Sunset is 1647, roughly 3 hours from now. Astronomical twilight, when its dark, is 1818 PST. 5 hours away. We have time to work.
No sorcerers can actively counter any spells they are experiencing. Its like one of their major strenght.
Hedge sorcery allows you to counterspell any magic effect you are experiencing; if its an instant spell you do Counterspell, which is a one-off spell. If its a standing effect, you use Unweaving and get extended rolls.
Unweaving allows us to disassemble standing magical effects at Intelligence + Occult at DC8. Extended Rolls.
For a strategic spell like this that overlies the whole city, Molly would burn an Occult Excellency, and put herself in a bathtub of bleach and ice in her hotel suite.
Which would take her dice pool from 9 dice at DC8 to 22 dice at DC7 with a 2-dice stunt. Avg 9 successes.
Ancient Sorcery would require us to translate Emerald/Sapphire Countermagic.
But its a viable effect.
Nemesis clearly set this up so it'll always win something worth having however this goes down, but this is also an opportunity for us. The feds are going to be looking for solutions, and we have some of the best deals in town in that we aren't implicitly looking to screw them.
Even if you don't know about the gateway in Vegas you'd think the strike squad of alien cyborgs would clue you in that something screwy is going on.
If they're going to start using this sort of thing I think it's going to make getting ETE critical rather than simply nice to have.
Sure they take the time to try countering it, and it unfortunately doesn't have an activation roll so we can't use excellency to make it supremely difficult to undo*, but it shouldn't be any easier to break than this curse would be for us and the time costs of doing that are painful in cases like this.
* I'm still not clear under which circumstances everyone has to roll their arete equivalent and when they get to apply whatever ritual they happen to have on hand. Which is a critical difference because any charm without an activation roll is defended by our arete rating against any counter magic attempt. Currently that's 6, and is only affected by untyped dice pool adders like WHWH.
That's a lot for this score, but if we roll 6 dice and the other side rolls their normal casting skills then somewhere between one third and one half of our charm set immediately becomes pointless to buy.
That is kinda weird now that you mention it. Maybe this is more obvious to people with specific knowledge of Nemesis' skill set?
I mean, if it could just set this up in a few months without moving traceable amounts of power and resources around until it goes off it'd presumably do so more often.
Ivy should definitely be aware by now, and hopefully able to do something from outside the city to help.
Air strikes might be a bad idea, but we're throughly past the point of cautious investigation and talking to people. We don't have the time to chase every lead and get every bit of context before acting unless we want this to go from surgery to autopsy.
We can't be everywhere at once and it's less than 30 hours to the apocalypse. Something is going to end up slipping and the chaos is a more manageable loss than rendering a huge chunk of the continent uninhabitable.
I'm half convinced that the world is better off with the Dragon dead than in in Sandra's custody, and that we should pull a tunnel wyrm from the FCF then go kill anything in the sewers that doesn't surrender on the spot.
That's going to have consequences, potentially some nasty ones, but the thing Vegas can least afford to gamble with right now is time.
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[X] Go alone with Rendered Villain Dispersal
-[X] Tell Harrowmont to get out of there immediately and you'll meet him outside the room/building
-[X] Crown question: Focus boiler room scene: Significance/connection of this to Sandra's plans
RATIONALE
This was the place that, according to Katie House, Sandra's friend Frankie the VX maker was supposed to have been making drugs. Its supposed to be haunted as well.
Its pretty clearly linked to Sandra.
Four foot diameter tunnels seem like the sort of thing that its hard to build in the middle of a university campus.
I would like the full party there, because Molly has no Awareness dots in her passive magic senses dicepool, so while she gets a -2DC to Awareness rolls from Usum, we're only rolling a dice pool of Perception 3, while both Lydia and Lash have discount!Sight active 24/7 for free.
But with the chaos happening right now, putting them on the road risks them getting caught up in the chaos, and the traffic is likely to be literally murder. They're just gonna be rolling Bad Luck rolls.
If it was dark, we could simply fly them, but it isnt.
Better to wait for us somewhere we can meet them. Like a McDonald's.
So Molly should teleport to the University campus, use the Crown to ask a question, then use the answer to make phone calls. Potentially the Library, if this is a dormant magical threat.
The Crown question will cost us 1m, but if the answer is a secret, we get 2m back, so our Essence goes from 10 to 11.
[X] Go alone with Rendered Villain Dispersal
-[X] Tell Harrowmont to get out of there immediately and you'll meet him outside the room/building
-[X] Crown question: Focus boiler room scene: Significance/connection of this to Sandra's plans
RATIONALE
This was the place that, according to Katie House, Sandra's friend Frankie the VX maker was supposed to have been making drugs. Its supposed to be haunted as well.
Its pretty clearly linked to Sandra.
Four foot diameter tunnels seem like the sort of thing that its hard to build in the middle of a university campus.
I would like the full party there, because Molly has no Awareness dots in her passive magic senses dicepool, so while she gets a -2DC to Awareness rolls from Usum, we're only rolling a dice pool of Perception 3, while both Lydia and Lash have discount!Sight active 24/7 for free.
But with the chaos happening right now, putting them on the road risks them getting caught up in the chaos, and the traffic is likely to be literally murder. They're just gonna be rolling Bad Luck rolls.
If it was dark, we could simply fly them, but it isnt.
Better to wait for us somewhere we can meet them. Like a McDonald's.
So Molly should teleport to the University campus, use the Crown to ask a question, then use the answer to make phone calls. Potentially the Library, if this is a dormant magical threat.
The Crown question will cost us 1m, but if the answer is a secret, we get 2m back, so our Essence goes from 10 to 11.
I doubt it's that easy, I can see blocking or disrupting the effect on your person, but destroying the whole thing sounds a bit like killing an ballistic missile sub by shooting down a single incoming strike.
The source producing the ongoing effect is somewhere else.
Handling it the other way creates a situation where you have to take a leyline nexus and do a significant amount of ritual work to cast a large AoE spell but someone working with their personal resources alone can reach out from the edge of the effect and tear it apart.
That's why I said Mana manipulation and not counter spell or counterweave because both counterweave and counter spell assume either you are the focus of the effect or you have the focus of the effect in front of you. But Mana manipulation directly allows you to manipulate ley lines and large-scale geographical manipulations of magic like say a chaos ritual cast over a city.
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…Oh FUCK.
Are any strategic bombers based out of Nellis (to general knowledge)?
I really hope that she doesn't have (even limited) access to (whether through mind control or through mere theft, though the former is far more likely) that terrible arsenal.
Edit:
Quoting the Nellis AFB website (though this is modern not period)
Tonopah Test Range is also potentially a location of interest for that.
Are any strategic bombers based out of Nellis (to general knowledge)?
I really hope that she doesn't have (even limited) access to (whether through mind control or through mere theft, though the former is far more likely) that terrible arsenal.
Edit:
Quoting the Nellis AFB website (though this is modern not period)
Tonopah Test Range is also potentially a location of interest for that.
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And you make a guess, and you make a guess, everyone makes a guess!
As for what we should do: tell him to flee, now really isn't the time to feel for a distraction, we need to act yesterday.
What I think of your reaction:
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[X] Tell Harrowmont to get away from there now
-[X] Have Clippy arrange for an anonymous bomb threat to be made on campus to encourage a rapid evacuation.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Tell Harrowmont to get away from there now
-[X] Have Clippy arrange for an anonymous bomb threat to be made on campus to encourage a rapid evacuation.
-[X] Have Clippy arrange for an anonymous bomb threat to be made on campus to encourage a rapid evacuation.
It really is.
Doable, that is, for an Exalt who is intiated into Ancient Sorcery, has Occult 5 as a Key Ability and can call on multiple DC adjusters. It doesnt mean doable for many other people.
Something like this is going to be at least 20 successes, probably more. Extended Rolls will be necessary to break it.
Because Molly has Occult as Key, 1s do not subtract successes from her Int+Occult rolls.
For other people, 1s do, and a botch destroys the entire Unweaving attempt.
Then to be utterly unfair, Molly gets to throw in an Excellency.
When? You're not in the quote chain I was replying to, which was specifically about counter spell and unweaving.
In any case, just having mana manipulation seems like the basic buy in. You should still need access and some time to work a counter up to avoid functionally the same problem.
