Yes, that gives you an objective if brief answer because you are asking for a list.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Yes, that gives you an objective if brief answer because you are asking for a list.
Hm, if we asked "What Gorfel knows about the identities of those in his brotherhood", we'd get more detailed info as we specifically ask what he knows, but if he is deceived by them we wouldn't get that.
If we ask about the true identities of "those belonging to what Gorfel's refers to as the brotherhood he is a part of", we'd get a perfect, deceptionless list of names, but no details?
Is that right? One asks about his present knowledge and he is right there, and the other is just using him as a springboard connection, but does not get to know what he himself knows? Because it looks at Gorfel as "part of the brotherhood" not an individual to mine for info.
With the latter you would also get any titles they feel are intrinsic to their character. Dresden for instance would register as 'Wizard' and 'Private Eye' in such a search, but not 'Warden' since he has only recently gotten the title and is still growing into it
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[X] Use your Crown on something
-[X] Gorfel: What are the identities of those that Gorfel referred to as belonging to his brotherhood?
Hm, do we want to ask a question about Greene first? He's about to run.
Like a secret we can use to discredit him or maybe who or why he was attacked the last time we came across him?
-[X] Gorfel: What are the identities of those that Gorfel referred to as belonging to his brotherhood?
Hm, do we want to ask a question about Greene first? He's about to run.
Like a secret we can use to discredit him or maybe who or why he was attacked the last time we came across him?
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in fairness false knowledge while being false knowledge is still useful also gives us a fuck ton more info to work with. it gives us what they often present themselves as which identity doesn't, gives us knowledge on their combat application, also whatever traps the guy knows about associated with well his associates.
how useful is a name and maybe intrinsic identity as compared to actual details? Its useful for sure is it more useful I dunno?
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I'd generally agree, but I have one hope.
If we get the true identities of people, which Gorfel might not know, and seeing as these are Kemmlerites...
If we get the names to Ebenezer or Bob, they may recognize some of them.
I'd also be fine with asking all that he knows about his brotherhood, or something to that effect.
Good night guys. I'll be going on holiday tomorrow and it's a long way so I won't be on line before evening my time. I'll see if I can manage an update.
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possible note true names aren't handed out freely even in the white council so good chances they simply aren't though its fine if they aren't personally given then true names don't matter as much if acquired from someone else.
One real useful thing to note is we ask for everything gor knows couldn't we once we find one of his associates just do the identity thing with them and getting what gor knows means being more prepared for his associates in the immediate right?
Edit: one is everything gor knows about this another is about the organiztion itself former allows us to be prepared other not so much and we can just ask it later.
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If we just ask for everything Gorfel knows about his brotherhood, or what he knows about his fellows, that would only use up Gorfel as a source of Crown sight and not the organization in aggregate, right?
Yes, that is the trade off.
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thats a trade off doesn't that mean we just used gors one question and can do an organization question later?
Harry should take initiative and go to police to have his gun examined, so they can tell it wasn't his gun used in the shooting (and I'd like to point that the guns had similar caliber is suspicious as f*ck). We will then remake Harry a new gun, so the bullets it shoots won't actually be identified by the police.
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if the gun has no identifier thats a red flag dude.
honestly when it comes to this specific cop when we are less time constrained we can just use a crown question to what we could say to him that gets him to realize hes wrong and back off. Its not like we're ever gonna worry about using a question about this mundane cop.
Edit: or even better ask the crown what needs to be done with this cop that could peacefully resolve this conflict. Then just tell harry what that is and let him deal with it.
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[X] Use your Crown on something
-[X] Gorfel: What does Gorfel know about those that belong to what he refers to as his brotherhood?
Just to confirm DP, this vote would work as one that gives us more info, but only what Gorfel knows, and does not use up the brotherhood itself as a target?
And by more info it would be a significant enough gap to be, by your own reckoning which may not be universal but even so, be worth the possibility of deception?
As in, it's not just like a line more about how they act, but what Gorfel knows about their usual specialities or what they bring to the table, or unique identifiers that makes them important to the brotherhood etc.
That is, if you can share this info. Since this would be more reading Gorfel, his mind and history and not using him as a sympathetic link.
-[X] Gorfel: What does Gorfel know about those that belong to what he refers to as his brotherhood?
Just to confirm DP, this vote would work as one that gives us more info, but only what Gorfel knows, and does not use up the brotherhood itself as a target?
And by more info it would be a significant enough gap to be, by your own reckoning which may not be universal but even so, be worth the possibility of deception?
As in, it's not just like a line more about how they act, but what Gorfel knows about their usual specialities or what they bring to the table, or unique identifiers that makes them important to the brotherhood etc.
That is, if you can share this info. Since this would be more reading Gorfel, his mind and history and not using him as a sympathetic link.
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Just want to note everybody the cop problem is very easy and we don't even need to ask the crown for blackmail as I don't know why I have to say this that could backfire badly. Just ask a question towards said cop which could let this conflict be peacefully ended.
[X] Use your Crown on something
-[X] Gorfel: What does Gorfel know about those that belong to what he refers to as his brotherhood?
[X] Use your Crown on something
-[X] Gorfel: What does Gorfel know about those that belong to what he refers to as his brotherhood?
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I am fairly sure we could just remake the barrel so the bullets shot by Harry's gun won't be identifiable as bullets shot from his gun. We could change the pattern.
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you know while true thats not really gonna cut it since the cop thinks harry has goons. Like this is very easy we don't give a shit about this cop personally just ask the crown what could be done to convince the cop that would permanently resolve this conflict peacefully without any doubts in their mind.
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[X] Use your Crown on something
-[X] Gorfel: What does Gorfel know about those that belong to what he refers to as his brotherhood?
Yeah, knowing everything this guy knows, even if some of it is fake, is worth the possibility of him being tricked about something. It's basically magical interrogation.
-[X] Gorfel: What does Gorfel know about those that belong to what he refers to as his brotherhood?
Yeah, knowing everything this guy knows, even if some of it is fake, is worth the possibility of him being tricked about something. It's basically magical interrogation.
We could show the police the gun like...nearly right now.
We have 5x as fast as normal hell cyberpunk tools and Excellency, they may think he has goons, but does he have goons that can do the impossible?
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hows having a different gun impossible? Also this doesn't permanently resolve the issue as the guy is damn near convinced harrys doing illegal shit we aren't ever gonna need a question on this cop so why not use it to help harry later? also they don't know we're here.
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I thought the idea was to have a gun with the same serials or something, but different barrel.
Unless that's also tracked and the discrepancy would be noted?
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Biggest point for me is the cop is stubborn hes not just gonna leave harry alone. We aren't ever gonna need another important question with this cop just use the crown on him later for how to solve the situation without a doubt peacefully.
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[X] Use your Crown on something
-[X] Gorfel: What are the identities of those that Gorfel referred to as belonging to his brotherhood?
I think I am more interested in an objective list then in Gorfel's thoughts, because it's likely that anyone in Gorfel's brotherhood that is also a double agent on the council is hiding his real identity from Gorfel.
If the crown gets us a list of names, will those be provided to us as True Names? That is, will we get flashes of those people speaking their name? Or will it be more like Molly remembers reading a list of names from a scroll?
-[X] Gorfel: What are the identities of those that Gorfel referred to as belonging to his brotherhood?
I think I am more interested in an objective list then in Gorfel's thoughts, because it's likely that anyone in Gorfel's brotherhood that is also a double agent on the council is hiding his real identity from Gorfel.
If the crown gets us a list of names, will those be provided to us as True Names? That is, will we get flashes of those people speaking their name? Or will it be more like Molly remembers reading a list of names from a scroll?