- Constructs in the image of those he has defeated, DPE does not count, he is too big
- No, they are not independent beings, but a part of him
- They move with some competence, but not overwhelmingly so, the greater problem is that there are a lot of them and since they are a hive mind all their dice they might be able to pull feats of coordination that no mortal can to chip away at your defenses
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Isn't that what this vote was for?
It at least sounds like they're basically the same thing.
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She might mind if we do like a snow storm but we probably have plenty of appropriate weather.
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Actually we have etiquette 5 we should be able to just ask the qm this? @DragonParadox?
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I think we're fine as long as we don't use iron, since it's such a huge taboo.
I don't think she'll like the other stuff exactly, but it's unlikely she'll hate it more than fighting Iku herself and losing people. This is a serious enough fight that pulling punches entirely is too dangerous to risk.
1)Fair enough
2) Like @BronzeTongue said, the wayang of the Will of Kakuri counted for mote regen when we killed it.
Do these constructs count?
3)Hmm. Probably wont be enough.
Molly can fly.
They apparently cant, as far as we can currently tell, so they are stuck on ranged attacks.
This is a takeoff and attack from above.
And if they get through the 28 dice parry pool, they then have to beat Molly rolling 23 soak dice at DC4
Unless they have any bad touch effects, I'd ignore them.
Oh sure, if you kill all of them you will get something, just don't expect a shadow's worth of them with each kill.
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The first one is.
Keep in mind that every parry is a multi-action, so unless we go full defence our DC keeps rising until we can't parry anymore.
Also are you sure on 28?
Remember, first apply the Exellency to double the baseline, then add any other modifiers like our Shintai.
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In fairness bringing winter into the heart of summer is definitely not a good diplomatic move.
He drawn Molly into an altered area under his control so CCC should be active.
Okay.
Ill update plan when I get back home.But right now, my working theory is
[] Cut off the head and the body will wither to fall upon and carve into the central mass
Will have to endure being peppered with javelins and prodded with spears
Ignore mooks, murder boss.
We have 4 turns of Melee Excellency before we have to spend more Essence to renew it.
Make them count.
As long as we are looking at mortalish dicepools, it shouldnt be an issue.
And soak has no such issues.
I did the math below the plan that won.
Dexterity 8 + Melee 5 + Excellency 13 + Without Honor 2.
Excellency applies after the Attribute modifications.
Ill update plan when I get back home.But right now, my working theory is
[] Cut off the head and the body will wither to fall upon and carve into the central mass
Will have to endure being peppered with javelins and prodded with spears
Ignore mooks, murder boss.
We have 4 turns of Melee Excellency before we have to spend more Essence to renew it.
Make them count.
DC caps at 9.
As long as we are looking at mortalish dicepools, it shouldnt be an issue.
And soak has no such issues.
I did the math below the plan that won.
Dexterity 8 + Melee 5 + Excellency 13 + Without Honor 2.
Excellency applies after the Attribute modifications.
As long as you do not do anything permanent or anything with iron you are fine.
Why bother letting them try? Liquid oxygen is -218 degrees Celsius to liquid nitrogen's -195.
You ever see someone use liquid nitrogen to freeze a banana and shatter it? Imagine that, but you've got bone critters soaked in lake water trying to exert themselves.
They're magic, so I don't expect it to kill all of them, but it seems like it should deal some significant upfront pain followed by drip environmental damage.
Iku will probably have some way to make himself immune, but it's still something he'll have to pay for.
Is this viable @DragonParadox ?
No, shintai cannot pull changes that dramatic, mechanically the scale of transformation is 'you get a -1 to DCs'.
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You can't try more multiactions if it would take the DC above 9. Somewhere in the Rules section in Chapter 2 ExWoD.
Also Excellency applies before modifiers.
PC is already out, but I'd swear that's clarified in the FAQ at the end.
Edit: I could swear we have discussed both of these already. Maybe against the Akuma?
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[X] Cut off the head and the body will wither to fall upon and carve into the central mass
This seems at odds with how it's been handled so far.
I mean, the first time we used it we got rulings warning us that summoning traps or flooding the plane would be harmful to the human thralls and low tier vampire adds we'd intimidated into compliance:
I get that some things need to be rule zeroed to avoid making the game unplayable, and can see the argument that this particular application is one of them, but it still feels like a 180 from the prior discussion on how we can exploit the charm or what it meant to use it.
It is a pretty ridiculous ability, but it also has a buy in of 20 exp followed by a few limited and permanent feature choices.
Solars can buy the ability to launch attacks that ignore all barriers and pierce perfect defenses. Abyssals can pull things like unmake house sized objects without roll in line of sight and roll to erase any localized abstract concept, like a vampire's hunger and a cop's authority. Infernals summon their hell on earth. Even nastier interpretations to the effect of "fighting a living planet means you better be good for the nastiest environmental conditions it has" aren't that out of line by comparison.
Maybe I'm reading more into it than you meant, but it sounds like we're talking about basically down to fluff that justifies our -1 dc and triggers some of our other charms.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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[X] Cut off the head and the body will wither to fall upon and carve into the central mass
I would like to note two things:
1. Despite spending XP on Ox Body, we activated Shintai in the first fight we are taking part in. So people, who said that Ox Body would be enough to avoid using Shintai in the first turn, were wrong.
2. If we had Counter-Conceptual Interposition, we wouldn't be bothered about Iku-Torso summons, because we could have negated them with 2 motes of Essence (there are part of him after all, so probably should be counted as one kind of attack).
1. Despite spending XP on Ox Body, we activated Shintai in the first fight we are taking part in. So people, who said that Ox Body would be enough to avoid using Shintai in the first turn, were wrong.
2. If we had Counter-Conceptual Interposition, we wouldn't be bothered about Iku-Torso summons, because we could have negated them with 2 motes of Essence (there are part of him after all, so probably should be counted as one kind of attack).
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It was never about the ox bodies to be frank as long as the shintai provides sick Aesthetics and actual combat bonuses in the form of pre- Excellency attribute boost it'll always be activated first the flavoring and the strength of it is just so good.
If we had multiple scourge of the world splendors that provided our bonuses and Enchanted torques that increased our strength and stamina or dexterity we would probably use those first because those still show prowess and Power while providing the same kind of thing the shintai does as well as stacking with it. Then when fights go wrong we would probably use the shintai. More Health was never going to do it only more power was.
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Back awake and on a computer, so here's the quotes:
ExWoD p.33
And the other thing:
ExWod p.446
Back awake and on a computer, so here's the quotes:
ExWoD p.33
Highlight mine.
And the other thing:
ExWod p.446