Oh, now you are reaching. If Michael stopped being a knight, it wouldn't matter for the purpose of this conversation. And yes, there's Dresden's testimony. And oh, Merlin's.1) We didnt vote to take them home with us; they didnt see her home or meet her family. Or meet Michael.
There's no supporting evidence for this from Wu Min's PoV; even for Morgan, last time he met Michael was in June, so he doesnt know if Michael is still a Knight, except by testimony of Dresden.
It looks like a duck, weighs like a rhino, and quacks like a dinosaur. It's not a duck.2) Do recall that Wu Min's reports are going to be read and interpreted by other people. Other wizards.
It is of very little benefit to us to convince Wu Min that its not a Hell when all the evidence that goes into her report suggests that it shares most of the commonalities of a Hell.
And frankly, it would make people suspicious about whether we whammied her if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but she calls it a walrus.
Almost no one knows about Demonreach. White Council almost certainly doesn't.Demonreach is just a couple miles from Chicago, and noone is freaking out about it corrupting the millions who live in the city.
Not sure how?@Yog could you make it more clear that our place is a hell just its different from the others in the vote? Like I obviously don't think that'll make uju vote for it or anything they have other problems. I just don't want to lie about that in case thats the way you intended or dp reads it. Like keep the its different from the hells but maybe add the word other.
As a general rule you should never tell anyone anything unless you know what the risk profile is like and there is no alternative feasible way to get them to do or share something you need. When it comes to important information anyway.
And I'll put my rebuttal to that out there now: this "standing policy" is one of the primary reasons why bad guys are winning. Because it favors secret societies and mistrust. It's easier to seed the disunity among ranks, than it is to foster cooperation in an environment like that, where everyone doubts everyone. Yes, it's also harder to worm your way into someone's trust, but it's easier to destroy than to create in societies like that.Nobody just puts their cards out. Not in this setting, not in World of Darkness.
The Council currently has multiple traitors, and thats not counting people who may be loyal to the Council but can be induced to share information they learned in it; Dresden himself talks to his allies about some stuff the wizards tell him for example.
In a setting like this where knowledge is power, controlling access to it matters.
You cannot unspeak information, or unshare it.
And once you put it out there, it will go wherever happenstance carries it.
And information in the hands of hostiles is not in our interests.
The more "distrust tax" we pay on each interpersonal transaction, the easier it is to disrupt and destroy the results of such transactions.
And, besides, in this specific case, many of our enemies already know what's going on, while our nominal allies are laboring under false conceptions. Black Court, as servants of a Neverborn, are likely mainlining exalted lore. Outsiders recognize us as the Prince of the Earth and heir to Empyrian Chaos. Denarians felt us Becoming and understand that our realm is outside Creation. We are left with Red Court (arguable, depends on what lore they can buy from Outsiders), Black Council (possibly, depends on who they have among members, and how connected they are to Outsiders), and Fomori (arguable, depends on what information they can get from raksha, because I doubt Cleveland one was their only source, and what Ethniu knows, and what information Outsiders traded them).
Point is - our opposition has more access to information about us (Outsiders, Neverborn, Fallen angels) than our potential allies. This is something that needs remeding. The only advantage to not sharing the information is to make our opponents presume we are mistaken ourselves, and that's a shaky bet at best.