In the absence of a convenient sidereal, I think Olivia first (next turn, spend time to contact her divine ancestor, then fomorize her if her divine ancestor doesn't boost her bloodline power), and ten Daniel would work as stopgap measures. Olivia works as a stealth specialist, and Daniel could hopefully be turned into a lunar analogue.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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[X] Look over that sword you took from the Akuma, carrying that thing around with you, even if you are not going to do it will make a statement
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Flat no on that one.
You can empower people, but you can never make them equivalent to Celestial Exalted.
You're not wrong, but I'd contend there are moral ways to operate on the stock market, some of which are of considerable value to society, it's just that most people don't do it because being predatory is easier.
Take my example about the 2008 crisis; we could make really good money and save the homes/finances of thousand - or even hundreds of thousands if we do really well - of people. Just not being an asshole would be a dramatic improvement, and actually being nice would be outstanding.
There's also the potential for ongoing stuff. Just having our "machine learning prediction system" post warnings on crisis publicly and highlight companies/industries at risk for various forms of financial manipulation like shorts we could do a lot of good. The whole thing with triple A grade mortgage bundles was obvious to anyone reading all the data, so if we wanted we could potentially soften that crisis in addition to managing it after the fact to recycle an example.
Our cyber devils should be hilariously more effective at this than humans or mid 2000s stock software, and nothing about this would be illegal, so stopping us would be difficult. As a result we should be able to catch all kinds of things, including illegal ones.
How fun would it be to build a rep for our predictions, then arrange with the SEC to sell them 100% legal narc reports based on our ridiculous data analysis ability of the market as a whole?
We could do real good, become the most hated name on Wall Street, beloved name on Main Street, and get paid going both ways for the privilege.
If we use TTC to burn something it still creates smoke. The fundamental mechanism here is still mundane even if the tools are magically delicious. To step up or down the chain by definition involves the things created doing so.
Debatable, the weirder it looks the more questions we'll likely get. The people who buy without question aren't likely to have sophisticated equipment to check, so irregularities are more likely to just get bounced.
1) Scaring them like this isn't exactly worth much. Fear doesn't always have a consistent response, and terrifying them could complicate working with select members later.
It's also a data point about our abilities that we don't necessarily want to broadcast. SCE is currently partially out there, but not to people who share for free. Broadcasting what we can do with the full implications and partial mechanical details isn't a negligible cost.
Without a specific tangible goal that provides a measurable benefit equal to the potential complications this is more a hazy idea than a worthwhile effort.
2) This isn't a gimme to the justice system, it's an insult to it that actively undermines it. The fundamental premise of the whole thing is to reveal the truth and give just punishments based on it before the public.
Being a criminal doesn't mean you should be charged with just any crime so that they get some punishment.
There's also the whole process we'd have to do through to fake an appropriate crime, which is itself illegal and harmful to the system because it damages the systems meant to stop that sort of thing.
It may seem laughable to argue that and for an extralegal execution, but the guy's crime isn't something the system can handle. If you're going to argue for a change on the basis of ethics then it shouldn't be to turn one unjust action into two. Three of you count trading murder for cruel and unusual extrajudicial crippling.
3) Ghosts, the crown, any of their properties, we have plenty of options here. Leaving them alive offers some additional access, but it also makes it possible for others to get at them as well.
I also don't see how you can argue turning a skavis mortal to horrify and terrify the court would also lessen the grudge compared to killing him. The whole point would be to introduce a new visceral sort of fear.
That isn't a fair response to @uju32 we have previously discussed using crypto currencies to reinforce global protections in a similar manner to the Solars did with physical currency in Creation.
Their opinion on the drawbacks of crypto currencies is entirely appropriate in this thread in the context of Molly making use of the technology.
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Lydia is supposed to be terrestrial tier. She is in a weird place in between in my opinion.
Olivia could be done, I think. I mean, empowered divine ancestry could bring her to terrestial tier.
Daniel is trickier.
We aren't getting celestials, but we can still get some circle mates.
The 2008 market crash was entirely predictable and quite unavoidable. It was because banks where giving loans out to people that could not afford to pay them back. This caused the banks to have to taken the property to recoups losses. Their is nothing we can to stop it really, everything is already setup and done it is just people don't yet know how bad it is.
We could use Endless Torment Emanation on the project of giving out loans. Increase the difficulty of getting a loan by 2 for everyone. That might work.
Ok , conceded.
Sure 5 years ago when the government changed the requirements to get a loan. And the bankers started giving out loans to people with payments that took up upwards of 50% of a person's yearly income.
It is actually quite brilliant for the banks, give out a loan to someone that won't be able to repay the moment something bad happens no matter how small. Take the property, sell it, basically getting your money in 5 or so years instead of 30. The problem was everybody was doing that, and once lots of houses hit the market the price crashed.
Abyssals can make vampires in the core book, vampires are about terestrial tier... if they are strong enough. But the Five Dot Abyssal charm that makes them defaults to 15th generation Cadifs. Those are not Terestrial Scale. If you take that charm as apocalyptic and then as a 5 Essence Abyssal you roll 5 successes on that essence you get an 8th generation clanless vampire. That is about on par with a fresh Terestrial Exalt, if you build them right.
So yeah making circle mates is not going to be easy, but if you start with a minor talent like Olivia and give her some fomori powers it is at least a start, there are other ways to enhance people out there for those who would dare to walk beyond the lighted paths, and other sorts of beings you could find.
[] Talk to Harry about what happened, see if the White Council is willing to do something about a plot aimed ultimately at them
Not everyone needs to be peer of an exalt to be relevant and useful.
Meta wise it devalues what that power level actually means if we start making it a bar to be involved with the plot.
Leadership 3 makes you great at inspiring your own workers, but not actually any better at being a businessperson or doing business with others.
And as anyone who has been keeping up to date with business affairs, major corporations have to deal with Politics, Finance and Law.
Day to day.
Some corporations can essentially run on autopilot until they hit a crisis. But running a megacorp well is a full-time job, and a high visibility one.
I'm a hard no on this personally.
We should stay in our lane.
No it isn't.
Thats like saying being a US president requires that you become an industrialist.
One weird trick is a reference to all those ads that claim to know one thing that the (experts) dont know that will surely give you a shortcut to what you want.
Needless to say, none of their claims are true.
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The Order-Affirming Pattern was a megaproject of the Solar Deliberative, devised by hundreds of Celestial Exalts, thousands of Terrestrial Exalts, and I dont know how many gods, working out of First Age infrastructure.
It involved the use of of thousands of tons of jade talents circulating in the hands of hundreds of millions of people in to stabilize Creation. It was neither simple nor easy.
You are not going to replicate anything like its effects with the efforts of one Infernal.Especially since we currently have no idea what protections this reality is currently under besides the Outer Gates, and how they might interact.
Furthermore, it's job was to prevent the Wyld eroding the borders of Creation, and from reclaiming lands claimed from the Wyld by Solars using Wyld-Shaping. It was not designed to protect Creation from being invaded, as evidenced by the fact that the Balorean Crusade and multiple lesser Raksha incursions were a thing, and the fact that the Exalted Host didnt even try suggests they didnt think it was possible. Instead they built superweapons to fight off invasions.
Even the Primordials basically stationed one of their own as a border guard instead of attempting to magic invaders out of their playground. That and they gave Sol Invictus a superweapons.
1)Not actually true.
We burned the Pathfinder sorcerer that Lydia killed at the resthome. Underground, in an enclosed room. Without TLF or protective gear, and with other human mortals in the same room.
Then there's the whole process of making diamonds; the waste heat that is a product of compressing a chunk of carbon to God knows how many gigapascals of pressure? Also poofed.
2)The argument made was that we couldn't get the reaction we wanted without toxic byproducts and waste. Basically, that instead of 4A + radiation = 4B, we'd instead get 1B, 1C, 1D and 1E.
And the efficiency and performance of Craft thus far demonstrates otherwise.
I dont agree.
If this was at all true, conflict minerals would not exist as a lucrative international venture involving everything from local gangs and militia to international corporations to nation states. And gold smuggling would not still be a problem.
Honestly we could run a megacorp just fine within our skillset.
We find competent people, convince them to do the job, and see through literally all of their bullshit so we know they are actually doing the job to the best of their abilities. That's 95% of what management of a large organization actually is.
We find competent people, convince them to do the job, and see through literally all of their bullshit so we know they are actually doing the job to the best of their abilities. That's 95% of what management of a large organization actually is.
@DragonParadox
Turns out?
You CAN apparently make diamonds at room temperature. You just need a laser:
ceramics.org
Turns out?
You CAN apparently make diamonds at room temperature. You just need a laser:
Source:
Creating diamonds at room temperature from carbon nanofibers and nanotubes - The American Ceramic Society
NC State researchers created diamonds at room temperature in 2015 using carbon thin films. Now, they made diamonds using carbon nanofibers and nanotubes.
ceramics.org
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- washington
Yeah still costs ap though. But, yes we could easily get some individuals out of our hell and have them set stuff up once they have fake identities.
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Funny examples to give out as "friends", Lydia
)Also, it's cute that Molly still has a crush on Harry. Her world changed so much, I'm surprised she still thinks of him that way.
The trick is then to find ONE person who ALSO has the "find skilled people, run herd on them" skillset and convince them to run a megacorp for us.
All "become a billionaire" actions cost AP. This one just has more benefits than "have infinite money now".
[X] Look over that sword you took from the Akuma, carrying that thing around with you, even if you are not going to do it will make a statement
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Some cost more ap than others really. The lottery one we can do in a couple months is more than enough for what we need right now and pay people we want to pay. Also not really simply put time passes too slow in quest to really do company stuff on a large scale realistically in any time frame which matters.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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[X] Look over that sword you took from the Akuma, carrying that thing around with you, even if you are not going to do it will make a statement