I did not realize you guys wanted to mention Sandra, that felt a bit too personal to just drop along with all the other stuff. I'll have another scene where Molly covers that with her parents and... probably Harry given that he was involved.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Citation please? Cause I am not finding it.
Fair enough.
Molly really gonna be mad at Fate conspiring to get in the way of her hopes for her future love life, huh?
Because I cant imagine news of Nemesis attempting to throw Molly at Dresden would make Dresden or the parents any easier to persuade about its being right for her.
Might even consider it a sign from Heaven
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
At least we know Daniel isn't eavesdropping on this conversation. If he was, the sound of a boner tearing through his pants would have been hard to miss at this point.
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As a reminder, we also get our first signature charm at this point, so if there's one you want, make sure we've grabbed it in whatever plan you vote for.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
- Location
- Formerly of the Far Realm
What would be the XP cost for another By Rage Recast aspect and picking up Mind Hand Manipulation?
I also like the Sandstrike Blast option a lot, but it's hard to beat out the broad utility of telekinesis with line of sight range.
Whatever else XP gets spent on this time, we definitely need a solid ranged option. Being limited to melee range is a weakness that can be easily exploited by almost every enemy faction in the setting, and it's something we're going to have to deal with more often as it becomes widely known just how deadly we are in CQC.
Might not want to pull that trigger yet.
Personally I'd like to make our first signature the kingdom charm, because on a literal level the hell will end up being a signature element for Molly and because turning a 500 X essence yards region into our hell while in Shintai is amazingly cool.
[X] Plan Spiteful Swift Forging
-[X] Molly
--[X] By Rage Recast: Swift Stride, 6 XP
--[X] Shadow Spite Curse, 6 XP
--[X] Designate as signature charm
--[X] Craft 4, 3 XP
-[X] Lydia, 3 XP
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
1 XP banked.
Craft for Last Station and Odin's commission (I want to really wow him), By rage recast as a general boost, and Shadow Spite Curse as both combat and anti-nemesis tool. With it being signature charm, because it's one of the best.
With this we should be able to hunt naagloshii, and defend against Nemesis.
-[X] Molly
--[X] By Rage Recast: Swift Stride, 6 XP
--[X] Shadow Spite Curse, 6 XP
--[X] Designate as signature charm
--[X] Craft 4, 3 XP
-[X] Lydia, 3 XP
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
1 XP banked.
Craft for Last Station and Odin's commission (I want to really wow him), By rage recast as a general boost, and Shadow Spite Curse as both combat and anti-nemesis tool. With it being signature charm, because it's one of the best.
With this we should be able to hunt naagloshii, and defend against Nemesis.
Being able to grapple an enemy beyond CQC range? Is the sort of thing that proves rather useful.
Besides, forget the addditional uses and compare the mechanics on a pure combat level
Sandstrike Blast rolls Dex 4 + Athletics 1 at DC5.
Mode 1: Base damage 8 lethal, range 60
Mode 2: Spend 1m per shot, base damage 10 lethal in an AoE that's Essence*5 yard radius, range line of sight.
Athletics is not a Key ability for Molly.
Mind Hand Manipulation rolls Intelligence 4 + (Brawl 0 or Occult 5) at standard difficulty DC6
Base damage is (current Willpower) bashing
If the QM rules TK to be invisible, it imposes +2DC to the enemy's ability to defend against it
And Occult is a Key ability for Molly.
At the moment, MHM would be the superior combat choice IMO.
And far and away the option with superior utility options
Id postpone that until next turn.
When we are buying the Kingdom charm.
14xp
RR: 6xp + MHM: 8xp
Seconded.
Just on a mechanical level, being able to get a -1DC buff for every stunt that incorporates a Kingdom element is something of a big deal. Mechanically and thematically.
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Rage Recast is 6 (2 dots favored), MHM is 8 (2 dots unfavored)
MHM only deals bashing damage though.
Looking like no one wants a Perfect Defense, or to get rid of the nightmares. Or up Awareness.
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I want to up Awareness, time to work up a plan, I guess.
Both are not ideal, though MHM is better.
You're misremembering the mechanics though:
So MHM is rolling 4 grapple/bash dice and we can't actually enhance it with anything while doing it. Throwing a car really fast is probably more effective in that respect, since the mechanics are different for the amount of energy we can put into it.
The damage basically isn't worth it, though it would make it trivial to drop heavy objects on people or use her highest dice pools to deliver line of sight grenades instead of her relatively puny arms.
Also I guess we could put satellites in orbit if the LoS ruling on SBS working on orbital stuff applies, then have cyber devils pilot KKVs down onto our enemies.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
[X] Plan Grab Bag
-[X] Molly (16 XP)
-[X] Craft 4 - 3xp
-[X] Craft 5 - 4 XP
-[X] Leadership 4 - 3XP
-[X] Subterfuge 4 - 3xp
-[X] Mocking Murmurs Retort (•) - 3xp
--[X] Lydia (4 XP)
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
--[X] Carry over - 1xp
So plan grab bag. It ups Xraft to max. Both for all the Craft we will be doing and for Alchemy.
It gets Leadership and Subterfuge for when we start leading people and Mocking to Stealth discredit people, specially Nemesis infected people at positions of power.
We get our Signature. Boiling sea Mastery. It allows to freely transform if we combo with RVD.
4xp for Lydia is not much so get Rightious Lion Defense to protect her from Mindcontrol and bank 1xp.
[X] Plan: For the Kingdom
-[X] Molly (16 XP)
-[X] Carry over - 16xp
--[X] Lydia (4 XP)
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
--[X] Carry over - 1xp
We are not guaranteed to get more xp next turn so let's save it, especially since we are going to have shorter arcs.
[X]Plan Speed Kills
-[X] Molly (16 XP)
-[X] Craft 4 - 3xp
-[X] Craft 5 - 4 XP
-[X] Leadership 4 - 3XP
-[X] Subterfuge 4 - 3xp
-[X] Mocking Murmurs Retort (•) - 3xp
--[X] Lydia (4 XP)
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
--[X] Carry over - 1xp
So plan grab bag. It ups Xraft to max. Both for all the Craft we will be doing and for Alchemy.
It gets Leadership and Subterfuge for when we start leading people and Mocking to Stealth discredit people, specially Nemesis infected people at positions of power.
We get our Signature. Boiling sea Mastery. It allows to freely transform if we combo with RVD.
4xp for Lydia is not much so get Rightious Lion Defense to protect her from Mindcontrol and bank 1xp.
[X] Plan: For the Kingdom
-[X] Molly (16 XP)
-[X] Carry over - 16xp
--[X] Lydia (4 XP)
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
--[X] Carry over - 1xp
We are not guaranteed to get more xp next turn so let's save it, especially since we are going to have shorter arcs.
[X]Plan Speed Kills
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[X] No longer blind
-[X] Molly, 16 XP
--[X] Awareness 0 -> 2, 5 XP
--[X] Mocking Murmurs Retort, 3 XP
--[X] Ox-body, 3 XP
--[X] Craft 3 -> 4, 3xp
--[X] Academics 1 -> 2, 2 XP
-[X] Lydia, 3 XP
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
Finally get some awareness.
Mocking Murmurs to discredit people.
Ox-Body to get a bit tougher.
Craft, because we do a lot of crafting.
Academics, so Charity won't have reason to get on our nerves about school.
-[X] Molly, 16 XP
--[X] Awareness 0 -> 2, 5 XP
--[X] Mocking Murmurs Retort, 3 XP
--[X] Ox-body, 3 XP
--[X] Craft 3 -> 4, 3xp
--[X] Academics 1 -> 2, 2 XP
-[X] Lydia, 3 XP
--[X] Righteous Lion Defense, 3 XP
Finally get some awareness.
Mocking Murmurs to discredit people.
Ox-Body to get a bit tougher.
Craft, because we do a lot of crafting.
Academics, so Charity won't have reason to get on our nerves about school.
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There are issues with that in application. I mean how often have we actually had the time to take 3 turns to get ready for Shintai, especially give the mechanical push towards using it late in a fight as a refresh?
It's still good, but it's not objectively mechanically superior to all other options. The kingdom in particular gives us a very easily applied -and difficult to remove - difficulty modifier to stack with our other ones, which is pretty valuable.
There's also the narrative aspect to this.
A considerable amount of focus has gone into the hell stuff from the start of the quest, and it's going to be a huge deal IC once it comes around as well.
In terms of being a signature part of who Molly is and how the world at large interacts with her the kingdom is significantly dominant over her connection with the themes of tainted water/sea monster stuff.
As our first signature BSM just doesn't fit, though I could see taking it for the second one.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
This is wrong.
Awareness 1 - 4xp
Awareness 2 - 2xp.
Fajr enough but I still think it is worth it as a first sig.
Mind Hand Manipulation for you guys... I mean on the one hand you are going for the telekinetic fight so it would make sense to be the same here, but -2 DC is a lot in this system.
We'd get work out of it, don't get me wrong, but it'd be unsatisfying from my perspective and added value isn't impressive enough that we need to do it that way.
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I'd prefer Shadow Spite Curse for that.
3 more difficulty for all enemy actions is hard to beat.
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- Earth
Nothing's ideal.
Yeah, that seems fucky.
Especially since the original abilty for MHM classic is Occult. Let me make an inquiry of the QM.
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
This is the text of the MHM charm:
Note the bolded parts.
Can we just use Occult for this charm? Or substitute Melee for Brawl?
Both our Occult and Melee are 5, so it would amount to the same thing anyway; Occult is just more straightforward and thematic.
I ask because the original charm used Occult, with the option of using Melee or another ability of you tried to use it to wield a weapon.