[X] Normally, order a root beer
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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[X] Directly state what you noticed and make it clear you are not going to look any deeper
You were saying?
You have a broken Bracket here.
[X] Normally, order a root beer
How about let's not be a bitch for no good reason when we want a favor from someone. This is a Molly not a Karen.
How about let's not be a bitch for no good reason when we want a favor from someone. This is a Molly not a Karen.
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[X] Normally, order a root beer
- Location
- Germany
Pretty sure Angels have about ten times our "oh, shit" Factor.
I suspect most minor talents wouldn't dare to enter the bar for quite a while.
Molly not being normal isn't the same as people assuming Mac isn't. Outing him in front of his customer base isn't a nice way to introduce ourselves.
Subterfuge is somewhat better, but it's still sort of gambling when we could simply not poke what doesn't need poked.
taovkool
Forever Gone
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[X] Hint at what you noticed (Charisma+ Subterfuge)
[X] Normally, order a root beer
Look, just respect the guy's privacy alright? There's no need to piss off the former angel for unclear reason and Mac's definitely not a hostile entity. There is zero reason for us doing a spoiler on him.
[X] Normally, order a root beer
Look, just respect the guy's privacy alright? There's no need to piss off the former angel for unclear reason and Mac's definitely not a hostile entity. There is zero reason for us doing a spoiler on him.
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Thanks, corrected.
We are broadly speaking allied with angelic host at the moment. Mac is clearly here in disguise. The disguise has a flaw. The flaw can be easily corrected - just add something that would imitate the side-effects of one of Molly's discarded hypotheses:
So, the responsible thing to do would be to tell him about the flaw in his disguise so he can correct it.
Would probably be enchantment 1.
So, the responsible thing to do would be to tell him about the flaw in his disguise so he can correct it.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
[X] Normally, order a root beer
Listen, I would strongly recommend not hinting at jack shit when we are in mixed company. Some of the individuals here are probably older than Jesus, literally, and I don't think we want competing rolls to get our point across without any one of them noticing. Let the angel have his secrets and we'll have a longer talk with him later. There may be a flaw but he can fix it tomorrow.
He might be a Grigori... one of the half-fallen. One of the well intentioned ones who skirted the lines in the name of the betterment of humanity and unintentionally fucked things up about as much as they helped. Who knows.
Listen, I would strongly recommend not hinting at jack shit when we are in mixed company. Some of the individuals here are probably older than Jesus, literally, and I don't think we want competing rolls to get our point across without any one of them noticing. Let the angel have his secrets and we'll have a longer talk with him later. There may be a flaw but he can fix it tomorrow.
He might be a Grigori... one of the half-fallen. One of the well intentioned ones who skirted the lines in the name of the betterment of humanity and unintentionally fucked things up about as much as they helped. Who knows.
It might be worth staying mum and just passing on what we suspect and why up the chain, whether by Michael to Uriel or a prayer to the big man directly.
Mac frequently says he's 'out', he won't thank us for even subtly waving around his nature under the nose of a professional snoop.
If he is an angel then he probably still has some contact with heaven given he's obviously not fallen, even if he is retired to some degree.
It might be fun to try subtly communicating our knowledge in a full bar, but should we?
Mac frequently says he's 'out', he won't thank us for even subtly waving around his nature under the nose of a professional snoop.
If he is an angel then he probably still has some contact with heaven given he's obviously not fallen, even if he is retired to some degree.
It might be fun to try subtly communicating our knowledge in a full bar, but should we?
You're not wrong, but this is our first meeting and we aren't exactly strongly linked to his circle as far as we know. He likes Harry enough to take an introduction from him positively, but they're not close in any real sense.
@Modus_Tollens had the right of it here; if we tell him* it should be privately.
I'd prefer to do it after we know each other a bit better too, just to avoid our observation sounding like a threat.
If we do have to do it here and now playing verbal subterfuge is silly. Write it on a napkin and hand it to him folded up. Let people wonder, we're weird and new enough that they'll be doing that anyway. Something more interesting about our weirdness will come up later to distract them, like the news that we'd like to grab a drink with Mab here in a little over a week.
* Which is itself probably a good thing, even if this apparently isn't a big deal most of the time. Probably because the only people good enough to see through him are wise enough not to screw with someone like him when he's not bothering anyone.
^^^
One of the characteristics of adulthood is knowing when to keep your mouth shut.
We are not the only people who've noticed Mac before. Let the man have his privacy. Everyone else has.
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My dude, you are making a lot of assumptions here.
Both that there's a flaw in his disguise, and that this is something he can do something about, instead of being a fundamental part of his nature. The fact that the Occult 5 Infernal Exalt rocking Perception buffs noticed does not mean anyone else did. Harry certainly didnt and he has Lash in his head.
Mab explicitly knows who he is, and is friendly towards him. To the point of prioritizing his welfare after Maeve shot him in Cold Days. An Outsider walked into his bar and called him out in Cold Days. And I will wager you anything that the Denarians know who he is. Nevermind Odin, who we know has been in this bar. Or the Archive.
Its not a secret to the serious Players.
I suspect knowing these things is how you get to be regarded as a serious Player in the first place.
And its precisely this sort of thing why I told people not to make that promise to Murphy.
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The Outsider Sharkface explicitly calls him Watcher in Cold Days.
When Murphy asked him what he was later in Cold Days, his reply was "Im Out".Cold Days c22 said:
When Dresden tries to use the Sight on him in Battlegrounds, Mac both notices and covers his(Dresden's) eyes before he can do so, saying he would hurt himself. The only other person who does that is the Guardian Angel in Ghost Story who was protecting Uriel's black ops crew of dead people. And then Dresden refers to Mac as an ex-angel later in Battlegrounds.
Its fairly conclusive.
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