Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Agatha is indeed a big ghost, but she is just a ghost and not even conscious of what she is doing, more of an impression than a person. Her stealing a part of Faerie feels a bit like a rumba annexing territory, she should not really have the capacity to stand up to intelligent opposition.
Whatever works for the quest.
This is what Dresden Files Accelerated has to say, specifically referencing Agatha:


Demesnes
For the most part, denizens of the Nevernever have claimed territory as their own, with little shifting in the borders throughout the millennia despite
the efforts of Summer and Winter to expand their own lands and contract the other's. The areas claimed also change to fit the needs of their claimants or, perhaps, the other way around.
But sometimes the supernatural beings without land of their own have sufficient will to create their own environment, a comparatively small bubble of
reality within the Nevernever. This bubble is called a demesne, and thousands of them are scattered across the supernatural world, burrowed in niches here and there where the fabric of existence could stretch to accommodate them.
One such place is a slice of turn-of-the-century Chicago that an old, tormented, demented spirit named Agatha Hagglethorn created on the edge
of the Nevernever that connects with modern-day Chicago. Despite events allowing some peace for Agatha's ghost, the demesne remains. Even in the
Nevernever, creation matters.
Another demesne, also mirroring historical Chicago, has been built in the guise of a CPD police station and the surrounding city blocks, including a
train station. Those who are responsible for this demesne ensure its security, as it represents a Waypoint between the mortal realm and what follows a mortal's demise. I may add few details to what can be gleaned from Wizard
Dresden's notes: a guardian angel protects the entrance, a late Black Cat detective named Colin Murphy is its spiritual overseer, and a second spirit, Ron Carmichael, is one of his aides.
I assume this Black Cat department demesne is, like Agatha's demesne, now a permanent fixture in the Nevernever. Anything that occurred around Wizard Dresden's death and return is clouded, even from me, and thus we have only Harry's recollections to use.


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Source is Dresden Files Accelerated RPG p67

 
Sounds like new pockets of space are added to the never-never all the time. In fact if the fairies ever conquer them too slowly then it will no longer be the case that they border earth everywhere.

That might actually already be happening with the huge human population boom.
 
The Fae could simply be the most common single category of creature that lives in the 'border' Nevernever, so they have an excuse to call it Faerie, but that doesn't mean anyone else recognises their political authority or preeminence there.

Also, I don't think we know what Faerie are or where they come from. If Faerie is the name, for example, of creatures descended from humans that have been magically mutated from exposure the the border Nevernever it would make sense for them to be the most common:

Exactly what are the Outsiders? Are they like the fae, or are they something else entirely?
They are something else entirely. All the fae are part mortal. There is some bit of mortal in every single one of the fae. The Outsiders are something that comes from way beyond that. They're more the generic Hellboy fangs and tentacles croud.
(Italics in orginal)
Matter from the Nevernever dissolves into ectoplasm in the real world, but the faeries leave a corpse when they die. Explanation?
Faeries are a unique case in the Nevernever, as the beings who basically straddle the worlds. Plus there are other reasons which are none of your beeswax just yet.​

This is Mab. The embodiment of harsh but fair by Winter's Nature.
If Mab made you a deal and gave you wrong information, its just as likely to put her in magical debt; like paying for goods with counterfeit currency still leaves you owing the full sum.

Mab is an embodiment of winter's cruelty, not its fairness. It's very possible that being fair is genuinely impossible for her, given winter's association with arbitrariness like sudden snowstorms, late frosts and similar misfortune.

She'll always deliver the letter of a deal while always trying to make a cruel mockery of its spirit.

She's deeply and fundamentally evil; and possibly has no choice not so be. However; like Emma-O, the world is where she keeps her stuff, and so on her current role she may be a tragically necessary evil.[/indent]
 
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So, on the subject of using Big Book of Yomi Wan as a focus for the crown. It occurs to me that besides asking "what do inhabitants of the realms talked about in this book know of the type of thing referred to by servants of Emma-O as black seed?" we could ask a much greater question: " where in the realms talked about in this book, could I find more of the types of objects referred to by servants of Emma-O as black seed?". The issues with this question is manifold:
1) OOC more exalted could be very hard to handle, and would certainly produce escalation
2) IC, this is a type of knowledge that causes Uriel comes down from heaven to tell Molly very politely "please no", or Michael gets a mission to prevent
3) There's a chance of null answer. Usum was buried between two particular hells. It might still count as a general "thousand hells part of NeverNever", or it might not.
4) It's not a knowledge we can do a lot about now. Unearthing them would certainly require an expedition deep into Thousand Hells territory, with either suoreme stealth or in great force
5) Outside of possibly their first hosts, we won't be able to control who gets the Exaltation. And people like Marcone and Nicodemius would very much attempt to gain an exaltation
6) We don't have a place to stash them in while we are looking for good hosts, even if we can contain them. Once we get our kingdom, that might be a good choice.

Overall, this is very much "great potential profit, great potential risk" type of thing. And while I'd like to see Molly have peers in power eventually, and that's hard to do without other solaroids running around (and let's admit, Charity would make a great Solar), I can definitely see narrative issues with this.
 
Winning Vote
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Feb 21, 2023 at 1:03 PM, finished with 146 posts and 25 votes.

  • [X] Obligations and meetings
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
    -[X] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help, maybe not as... enthusiastic as the last time, but they are small fish in a very big and scary pond
    --[X] Offer insight, inducing but not limited to helping Maria out with her breaking the news to her fiancee, getting Olivia some training in her gift
    -[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (3/8)
    -[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
    -[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.
    [X] With Odin, and Last Station
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
    -[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
    -[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer
    -[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (3/8)
    -[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.
    [X]Plan Vampire Weekend
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
    -[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
    -[X] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help, maybe not as... enthusiastic as the last time, but they are small fish in a very big and scary pond
    --[X] Offer insight, inducing but not limited to helping Maria out with her breaking the news to her fiancee, getting Olivia some training in her gift
    -[X][ALLIES] The Green and the White: Having some into the possession of the contacts of Ms Lara Romany nee Raith to behooves you to introduce yourself, just to avoid any misunderstandings... and also you are kind of curious about the least bad vampires around.
    -[X][FAMILY] Just relax: It's almost enough to make you feel guilty given all the good you could be doing, but it's been a while since you have just hung out, gone to one of Leeth's softball games or watched anime with Matthew
    [X] Obligations and meetings
    [X] Meet Odin
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Deal with the servants of Karuri, diplomatically or otherwise they must be removed from the city before their darkness can spread. If you know anything about the Yama Kings, and you know an enough to make a soul uneasy, this is unlikely to be resolved without bloodshed
    -[X] Cauldron Bubble, your new friends in the Ordo Lebetis could use more help, maybe not as... enthusiastic as the last time, but they are small fish in a very big and scary pond
    --[X] Offer insight, inducing but not limited to helping Maria out with her breaking the news to her fiancee, getting Olivia some training in her gift
    -[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer
    -[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar not in the ways of the spirit but the mind, the Bridge of Dreams
    -[X] Get ready for your meeting with Queen of Winter Fae: prepare a suitable meeting place, and preemptively gather intel with your crown. Lydia's library and treasury probably have something that can be used as a focus; Harry might be able to suggest something too.
 
Arc 6 Post 6: Of Trouble Transferred
Of Trouble Transferred

2nd of October 2006 A.D.

There is something almost surreal about going to school, the harsh sound of the bell herding the students from place to place , leaving you as nothing more than another face in the crowd, the cafeteria food, not so much bad as indifferent, you can almost taste the apathy in the mashed pees, the growing understanding that many of the teachers do not really want to be here, even though it's hard to blame them when they are just making an honest dollar,. Sometimes you want to vanish, curl up in a glass of water, fly out the window and never come back. There has to be a better way to do this than teaching to test and testing to grade. In practice 'No Child Left Behind' just means there isn't anyone your age who has not been inflicted with a dread of little circles and Number 2 Pencils, though some have it worse than others...

"I swear I'm gonna flunk math, it just doesn't make any sense to me," Izzy leans against the radiator with all the world-weariness of a miner in the salt pit of high school. "I can see it now me going through senior year over and over, my father reminding me I'm the first Walsh in seven generations to do so poorly..."

"Unless you have a noble or a priest in your family line seven generations ago your ancestors were illiterate," you point out perfectly rationally, but your friend just glares at you.

"Hail dread overlady, got any tasks for me, walk your dog, water your plants, slay your enemies?" A chillingly familiar voice calls out from down the hall.

Is it too late to ask for boredom again, you wonder as Isabela Syliga walks, saunters really, up to the two of you, the smile on her face making it very clear, to you at least, she meant all three of the offers.

For her part Izzy looks bewildered. "You're the new girl right, sophomore?" And there went any hope that the vampire was just visiting.

"Yup transferred over. You would not believe how much of a hassle it is to do that in the middle of the school year, but my family has means... especially when to quote my dad 'your demon has been bound to the will of a beast far greater, learn how that came to be and you shall be great'," The vampire is wearing a blouse showing as much midrift as she can get away with in spite of it being October and jeans so tight that might have been painted on, much to the fascination of every boy who passes in the corridor.

"What the...?" Issy asks bewildered.

"Don't hold the way he speaks against mu father, he comes by it honestly, being older than both the telephone and the flush toilet."

Part of you wants to slap a hand on her mouth, but you realize no one among the bustling crowd of students heading to their lessons and teachers shuffling papers as they walk would take her seriously. Why would they after all, everyone knows vampires aren't real How many of her court do that you suddenly wonder, talk openly about the hidden world, just for the satisfaction of seeing how the 'prey' is blind and deaf to the truth.

Pinching the bridge of your nose to in a vain attempt at heading off the headache you introduce them: "This is my friend Izzy. Izzy this is Isabela Syliga, she's a vampire, White Court."

Your friend takes the revelation in wide eyed, perhaps surprised at the lack of sweeping cloaks, no amount of explanation can prepare one for the sheer magnetism of the White Court. Finally she settles on "Dread Overlady?"

"Didn't know the correct form of address since no one can decide what Molly here even is so I improvised," Bela proclaims glibly.

"And yet you remembered my name." Your voice is dryer than the Sahara.

"Well yeah, but that's boring, what kind of ancient god-beast in human form is called 'Molly'?"

All you can do is close your eyes, aware that you are not immune to the allure of the White Court, at least now without burning Essence, but all the same there are worse ways for her to have introduced herself

What do you do about the perky vampire who showed up at your school?

[] Set some ground rules
-[] No feeding on anyone in school
-[] Write in

[] Maybe you could make use of her
-[] Can she tutor in math?
-[] Explain more about the unseen world to Izzy and Alec, from a...novel perspective
-[] Write in


OOC: Now we see how Molly deals with minions that are not so well intention-ed as Thomas, nor as desperate as the Jade Dogs
 
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Mab is an embodiment of winter's cruelty, not its fairness. It's very possible that being fair is genuinely impossible for her, given winter's association with arbitrariness like sudden snowstorms, late frosts and similar misfortune.

She'll always deliver the letter of a deal while always trying to make a cruel mockery of its spirit.

She's deeply and fundamentally evil; and possibly has no choice not so be. However; like Emma-O, the world is where she keeps her stuff, and so on her current role she may be a tragically necessary evil.[/indent]

Not disagreeing with you about Mab's nature, at least as seen by humans, but I think deliver on the letter, make a mockery of the spirit is inherent to all fey, not being able to lie they learned to play with the truth and being immortals they have to find something to amuse themselves with.
 
Okay, we still have those kids from before the holidays, that pushed the poor idiot to make a selfy that almost killed him.
Remember those?

I would say if we ask our mini-vamp to scare them in line without doing permanent damage it would be a nice test of skills.
White Vamps are supposed to be good at social, right?
 
[X] Set some ground rules
-[X] No actively feeding on anyone in school, passively feeding off teenage emotions is fine.


It's not like she's going to lose control, and profiting off existing teenage emotional instability sounds fine so long as she doesn't make it worse.

[X] Maybe you could make use of her
-[X] Can she tutor in math?
--[X] "Sure, you decided to show up here, now, asking for a task. A task for you I have."


Yes. She chose to show up like this and is poking us to make things hard. We should poke back by giving her an inglorious task. She needs to learn that petty is responded with petty.
 
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[X] Set some ground rules
-[X] No permanent harm to people at the school
--[X] That goes especially for feeding, not just to avoid direct damage, but also to make sure you don't go to far on people who might commit suicide or similar cases
-[X] No talking about supernatural stuff to people not in the know, she might be able to get away with it indefinitly, but Molly is weird enough that people might actually make a connection

[X] Maybe you could make use of her
-[X] Explain the story of the almost-deadly selfy from two months ago. Ask her to make sure that the responsible people would not bully their juniors again anytime soon. She has plenty of time to get to know people here and make a plan, no rush.


I want to see how she approaches this.
If she has the relevant disciplines she could propably brute-force the issue with Presence or Dominate, but she also might try a little social engineering by mundane means.
Either way, we learn something about her and a task that is kinda beneath us gets done.
 
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I want to see how she approaches this.
If she has the relevant disciplines she could propably brute-force the issue with Presence or Dominate, but she also might try a little social engineering by mundane means.
Either way, we learn something about her and a task that is kinda beneath us gets done.

Perpetrators dying in an unfortunate car accident is a way of solving this using mundane means…
 
Whampire POV: "High School, thy name is...buffet!"

Lust, fear, despair, shame, wrath, greed, pride, etc., you name it and there is a tasty emotion stewing in that pit of hormonal funk.
 
Ha, you can see how social charms to engender slavish devotion would be tempting for the Solars, it would be so much simpler to manage.

I'm not against her doing incidental feeding like Thomas does with his boutique clients, though she is freed from the curse part she does need some supernatural nourishment and the school is going to produce despair to some degree or another just by being a melting pot of teenage experience.
 
[X] Set some ground rules
-[X] No permanent harm to people at the school. Not unless there's genuine danger to her life, like a rape attempt, and she can't handle the situation without it. And you'll be checking by the the spirit of the rules, not the wording. You are not a fey.
-[X] No talking about supernatural stuff to people not in the know, she might be able to get away with it indefinitly, but Molly is weird enough that people might actually make a connection. If she does, you'll convince everyone in the school that she's a vampire chuuni, and
you'll make her behave like that too. Her name can even be shortened to Bella.

[X] Maybe you could make use of her
-[X] Can she tutor in math?
--[X] "Sure, you decided to show up here, now, asking for a task. A task for you I have."


She's a teenager. We should make teenager appropriate threat. And with Empathy 4, Etiquette 5, and excellencies, we totally can make the whole mundane school to believe everything we say. I don't want this to be too serious.

-[X] Explain the story of the almost-deadly selfy from two months ago. Ask her to make sure that the responsible people would not bully their juniors again anytime soon. She has plenty of time to get to know people here and make a plan, no rush.
I'm forgetting what this is about. Could you remind me, please?
 
Sort of want to use Naked Wicked Souls on Bella just to get a better read on her. Might want to use ATB as well to make sure we get all the successes. 5 successes is really cool.
 
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I'm forgetting what this is about. Could you remind me, please?
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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files) Crossover - Fantasy

Leaping Forward 13th of July 2006 A.D. Dropping your bag to get both hands free you break into a dead sprint, sneakers pounding against the asphalt as you close the distance. A final stride and a leap take you off the top of an idling sedan as you jump, arms grabbing at the falling freshman...

Here's our commitment:
"Can't exactly arrest his 'friends' on suspicion of bullying, that's up to the school to deal with." She drops her voice a little. "Though between you and me if someone were to put the fear of God into the lot of them that'd probably work out fine too."

You nod, biting back a smile. It's the last week of school so it probably wouldn't do much good to deal out any instruction now for them to forget over the summer, but if they are still at it next year... well you have a good memory.
Not a strong one, but I do want to prove that line about a good memory as true.
 
-[X] No talking about supernatural stuff to people not in the know, she might be able to get away with it indefinitly, but Molly is weird enough that people might actually make a connection. If she does, you'll convince everyone in the school that she's a vampire chuuni, and you'll make her behave like that too. Her name can even be shortened to Bella.
Don't like this. Too much micromanagement. Plus threats aren't good for long term working relationships.
 
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