Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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Lanka Roast? Kakuri Drip? Malfiatto?
I feel tempted by a ill-advised stunt when selling these to Dresden.
BoredMan
Put your Grasses on, nothing will be Wong♪
Holy shit... This is some good writing. I felt how pissed she was through the screen even.
XelianEmperor
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I think it might be preferable to use bonus AP to do stuff better, rather than do more stuff. Spend a couple AP on training, stuff like that. Still a lot of effect. No need for DP more segments per turn.
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That's literally already the system DP proposed. We can only use the new AP to finish multi-AP stuff faster, like finishing the Dragon's Nest (an 8 AP monstrosity of a task that's been draining AP we could use for more quests and getting stuff done) or, yes, training. It won't cause more segments in a turn, just make more stuff happen in segments that would normally be fluff text for "numbers go up, you get closer to completing X."
That's good to hear. That is what I get for skimming.
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Also, seriously, what the fuck @DragonParadox, why is "don't actually use the thing we voted for" even an option? Like, sweet christ, if a thing gets voted for, how many extra votes does it have to win consecutively to take effect? Or is anything even remotely contentious going to get extra "but actually, no" vote opportunities for takebacksies and retroactively wasted AP, not just super coffee? This is actually infuriating.
Holy fuck so much this I have no words.
Also, seriously, what the fuck @DragonParadox, why is "don't actually use the thing we voted for" even an option? Like, sweet christ, if a thing gets voted for, how many extra votes does it have to win consecutively to take effect? Or is anything even remotely contentious going to get extra "but actually, no" vote opportunities for takebacksies and retroactively wasted AP, not just super coffee? This is actually infuriating.
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I don't disagree, but I foresee a lot of those votes when we finally get MMS.
I completely disagree. I voted for the winning plan with the 160 hour energy drink and my vote was to have it for critical situations not for constant boost. Just because someone buys a sledgehammer doesn't mean they have to use it all the time. Most times a regular hammer will do just fine.
The first vote was what to buy and this second is how to use it or limit the use of. First vote went my way, doesn't mean this second one will.
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So I hear you, and I have two counterpoints:
1. Literally the entire point of Exalted (in general, but Solaroids twice and Infernals specifically thrice over) is "A) a big enough sledgehammer really is the perfect tool for neurosurgery and calligraphy and microchip fabrication and tea ceremony; B) you have a big enough sledgehammer".
2. Both Molly and the questers would have to be a really, really special kind of stupid not to take the anti-AP-hell choice when offered, given her ongoing projects and the demands on her time in-setting and the greater plot & project progression per same amount of DP's writing out of setting that the super coffee offers.
1. I dont think so. Exalted is rife with examples of just because you can do something doesn't necessarily mean you should. IE beating the Neverborn piñata for sweet necromantic candies.
2. Thanks for calling all other questers with opposing views "a really, really special kind of stupid". I'm sure that will do wonders for making people want to switch to your way of thinking. But yes other than that, some people are happy with our current priorities and want to work within the current AP budget. They want Molly to expand in one direction but not another. For me, removing sleep entirely is too much and clearly some agree while others don't.
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*sigh* sorry. I should know better than to post while sleep deprived. And you already quoted it, so there's no point even deleting it. I really truly do think this sort of anti-transhumanism is stupid. But I'm normally smart enough not to admit to it in public, and it was rude, so, sorry.
Oh, doubtless. *facepalm*
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No worries, I can understand the frustration. I felt the same way with MMP but lost that vote as many were squeamish about what they interpreted as mind control. I think it just comes down to what each of us prefers and we try to reach as close to a consensus as we can.
In any case it looks like the vote to use the energy boost all the time is going to win so we move further in that direction which will be interesting in its own way.
Using it in a limited manner is still using it, being able to pull an arbitrary number of near-all-nighters is a powerful ability, just ask Harry.
This misconception keeps popping up. The potion we are discussing does not remove the need for sleep. It reduces the need for sleep down to 1 hour per night. This is a better than what real life mutations can achieve [1] [2] [3]. Each one reduces the need to sleep to 4 hours per day, at not cost otherwise (or at least at no cost observed so far). What a combination can do is unknown (or at least I wasn't able to find the articles).
Sleep Reducer potion most likely work the same way, except with magic - it makes sleep more efficient, so you get 8 hours of rest out of a chrnological 1 hour.
This is a valid compromise if you guys want to, it would manifest a only skipping 7 hours of sleep about half the time.
Sure, but you can take it two weeks out of the four that make up a turn.