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landcollector said:
Why Twilight?
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Anima Powers. You can pokeball elementals, and also you have the hardness aura, which MotS can use (Yep, mice of the sun can benefit from your anima banner powers - best familiar!), especially with their (decisive) clash attack power, which is otherwise likely to result in your MotS going back to heaven for a while.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
Anima Powers. You can pokeball elementals, and also you have the hardness aura, which MotS can use (Yep, mice of the sun can benefit from your anima banner powers - best familiar!), especially with their (decisive) clash attack power, which is otherwise likely to result in your MotS going back to heaven for a while.
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Oh. I had thoughts about Eclipse caste, but I see your logic.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
So, got my hands on the Fiction Anthology. Which stories were the good ones and which the avoid again?

(Also read the entry for Mice of the Sun. I know I'm not the only one thinking Twilight Ash Ketchum now...)
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The one for 3e?

Avoid A Singular Justice, When the Moon is Dark, and The Circle Will be Broken.

The first is a generic wizard academy story just with a few terms from Exalted(and nothing else) slapped on it. The second starts out decent, but rapidly goes down hill. The third involves what is basically a kaiju attack on the Imperial City that no Dragonblooded show up to for no reason.

In terms of good ones......

Well, basically, all of the other stories are good. My personal favorites are The Maiden's Kiss, The Exalted Among Us, Secrets in My Waters Still, and The Kingdom of Honey.

Word of warning, while What You Do Not Understand isn't bad in a technical sense, it does end on a "And I must scream" note.
 
Revlid said:
Wouldn't that be a concept better suited to the Night Caste?
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I suppose it depends on how the spying gets done.

Sneaking ninja shit is totally Night.

But if it's more of a social route mingling with the appropriate crowd, inserting yourself into people's trust and confidence and pumping them for information the long way....

Honestly, it's still something I can see a Night Caste doing, but it could also work for an Eclipse.
 
Revlid said:
Wouldn't that be a concept better suited to the Night Caste?
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Nervaqus987 said:
I suppose it depends on how the spying gets done.

Sneaking ninja shit is totally Night.

But if it's more of a social route mingling with the appropriate crowd, inserting yourself into people's trust and confidence and pumping them for information the long way....

Honestly, it's still something I can see a Night Caste doing, but it could also work for an Eclipse.
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I'm trying to play my eclipse in the pbp game @notanautomaton is running as basically Solar! Michael Westen.
 
Nervaqus987 said:
I suppose it depends on how the spying gets done.

Sneaking ninja shit is totally Night.

But if it's more of a social route mingling with the appropriate crowd, inserting yourself into people's trust and confidence and pumping them for information the long way....
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Well, I think Night-spying also incorporates Larceny, so would include the use of disguise and disposable false identities.

So, in The Americans (my current baseline for spying) they'd have some pretty decent Larceny to cover their WIGS! and ability to bluff their way into places and such. But that only covers surface level stuff, the things you do when you either don't want to be seen, or don't want to be remembered clearly. If your goal is to cultivate assets, you're gonna want to have good Socialize. Being able to put on a convincing disguise and sneak around only gets you so far.
 
Sorry, wasn't trying to imply you missed anything, just my musing on the difference in Larceny and Socialize spying.
 
Side Item said:
Sorry, wasn't trying to imply you missed anything, just my musing on the difference in Larceny and Socialize spying.
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Its pretty cut and dried: Socialize is all about politicking. That includes things like 'figure out what they want so you can use it to get them to do what you want' and 'use their culture to get them to do things for you', but relevant here is that its also what you use to conceal and falsify your goals/emotional attachments. Ergo, its the social segment of spying, up to and including the compartmentalization of false identities (hi there personas).

Larceny, on the other hand, is the physical side of disguise/spying. It's what you use when need to look a certain way. Which makes sense: Larceny has always been more about being a master criminal then being a master spy, though naturally there is considerable overlap between the two skill sets, dependent on what type of spying your doing of course.
 
Basically, Larceny is being a spy who creeps around in the shadows. Socialize is being a spy like a courtier with an ear to the ground.
 
Revlid said:
Wouldn't that be a concept better suited to the Night Caste?
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The distinction between Spy and Diplomat is often pretty thin. And not one that many cultures in Exalted necessarily even recognize.

And given that Eclipses now have Larceny as a potential caste ability, I'd say that Eclipse Caste Spy is working as intended.

I never liked class caste-typing anyway. My last Eclipse was a doctor, my Chosen of Battles ran a crime syndicate and didn't like to personally fight (well, that was in part because he hung with Solars, and in part because he had demon body guards), and the Dawn concept I was playing around with for a hypothetical Modern-shard game featured all the linguistics charms.
 
Since Socialize seeks to be the topic of the hour, I have a question about Unbound Social Mastery. In the charm text, it says "This power may be reset by achieving a legendary social goal such that she vents a point of Limit." I've been trying to find the actual rule, but I've come up empty handed. Has anyone else had better luck?

EDIT: I found another reference in Legend Mask Methodology. "While in the guise of a persona, each time the Solar vents a point of Limit through an epic defense of one of her persona's Principles or Ties, the corresponding Intimacy is transferred to her list of true Intimacies, temporarily voiding the strongest opposing Intimacy or the strongest Intimacy which is antithetical to her persona's character concept."
 
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horngeek said:
But I imagine your characters did those things in a way that was informed by their Caste, right?
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My doctor did not make people swear eclipse oaths to her to get healing; that would be unethical and unprofessional. :p

She did quietly poke the Dawn (who had a presence excellency and was thus the most socially competent character in that party) into making deals that involved people giving us tribute in exchange for concessions as often as she could though, and she sanctified all of those.

Her past life apparently also commanded a Directional Titan, which was cool. (and handily explains why a doctor has War 5)

notanautomaton said:
They can learn spirit charms with the Eclipse keyword, which could be fun.
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No, they can't. Otherwise, I would have Eclipse Ash Ketchum with an actual Pikachu that attacks with actual thunderbolts (yay storm mother spirit charms).

Resplendent Solar Avatar (Magical): The Solar may grant the mouse any of the benefits of his
anima banner for free when he uses them himself, or may pay separately to activate them on the
mouse's behalf. This is not compatible with anima effects that allow characters to acquire
permanent traits, such as an Eclipse's ability to learn certain spirit Charms or a Twilight's ability
to bind spirits as familiars. In addition, the mouse may reflexively surround itself with radiance
emulating its master's anima banner at the burning level.

Though by the wording, MotS can technically sanctify Eclipse Oaths if their master is not present.
 
horngeek said:
But I imagine your characters did those things in a way that was informed by their Caste, right?
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Not really. I think Chloe might have picked up some non-Solar charms, but Blossom (the character) relied primarily on Solar charms.

Chloe Sullivan said:
was thus the most socially competent character in that party
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-shudder-

Chloe Sullivan said:
Her past life apparently also commanded a Directional Titan, which was cool.
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Yeah, I had a whole thing outlined to explain how Blossom's previous incarnation pulled that off. Short version is that she was a soldier, she was garrisoned on the border of Creation guarding a settlement, everything went horribly wrong, raksha attacked, she brokered a deal where most of the people who could survive did, this caused her to be shiny (and much teeth-gnashing amongst the raksha, who were very careful not to swear any oaths or actually agree to the deal and were going to come back in a couple days to have more fun, but then Eclipse Oath!), and then she proceeded to politics her way through the ranks (and being quite competent) until she got a nice, shiny position in a Direction Titan.

(Her tomb is there, too. It's a rather small and personal affair, as far as Usurpation tombs go, probably because it was built by people who knew and liked her. The Usurpation was a very tragic affair in Scattered Petals of Thousand-Toothed Blossom.)
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
No, they can't. Otherwise, I would have Eclipse Ash Ketchum with an actual Pikachu that attacks with actual thunderbolts (yay storm mother spirit charms).

Resplendent Solar Avatar (Magical): The Solar may grant the mouse any of the benefits of his
anima banner for free when he uses them himself, or may pay separately to activate them on the
mouse's behalf. This is not compatible with anima effects that allow characters to acquire
permanent traits, such as an Eclipse's ability to learn certain spirit Charms or a Twilight's ability
to bind spirits as familiars. In addition, the mouse may reflexively surround itself with radiance
emulating its master's anima banner at the burning level.

Though by the wording, MotS can technically sanctify Eclipse Oaths if their master is not present.
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I feel like you could convince an ST to quietly overlook that with the awesomeness potential of Solar Ash Ketchum and Solar Pikachu. Orichalcum/Golden Rule and all that.
 
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I'm not talking about taking non-Solar charms, I'm talking about making deals, helping to build medical infrastructure.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
Eh, I managed to convince a guild rep to send us one exotic ingredient a season in exchange for trading rights in game 1.0, so Twilight crafter could actually do his job. That counts right?

(why is 3e thaumaturgy so lame? *grumble*)
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Oh, you sanctified deals, but it wasn't a significant part of what either character did.

Though, admittedly, Blossom convincing the anhules to pay rent was pretty impressive*. It just seemed to me that your tendency to do that wasn't so much a result of being Eclipse (that just gave you a powerful tool to use for such things) as it was your characters having Compassion 5 and being disinclined to initiate violence when you thought negotiation might work. I'd have expected similar behavior if you had played those characters as any other caste.

* You guys made me figure out personalities for so many NPCs that weren't supposed to survive the session. So. Many.
 
azoicennead said:
Oh, you sanctified deals, but it wasn't a significant part of what either character did.

Though, admittedly, Blossom convincing the anhules to pay rent was pretty impressive*. It just seemed to me that your tendency to do that wasn't so much a result of being Eclipse (that just gave you a powerful tool to use for such things) as it was your characters having Compassion 5 and being disinclined to initiate violence when you thought negotiation might work. I'd have expected similar behavior if you had played those characters as any other caste.

* You guys made me figure out personalities for so many NPCs that weren't supposed to survive the session. So. Many.
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I do consider that one of my more inspired moments.

Though if you wanted us to kill demons, you should have taken the whole "none of us have spirit cutting attacks, and only blossom was in position to learn them quickly" thing into account. :p

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Nervaqus987 said:
The one for 3e?

Avoid A Singular Justice, When the Moon is Dark, and The Circle Will be Broken.

The first is a generic wizard academy story just with a few terms from Exalted(and nothing else) slapped on it. The second starts out decent, but rapidly goes down hill. The third involves what is basically a kaiju attack on the Imperial City that no Dragonblooded show up to for no reason.

In terms of good ones......

Well, basically, all of the other stories are good. My personal favorites are The Maiden's Kiss, The Exalted Among Us, Secrets in My Waters Still, and The Kingdom of Honey.

Word of warning, while What You Do Not Understand isn't bad in a technical sense, it does end on a "And I must scream" note.
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So which was the "DB double exalts" one?

EDIT2: Oh, mod, you weren't kidding about ASJ. I just skimmed some and i still have So much WTF
 
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